Fromafar Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 To a point, I agree with you, but you know as well as I do that riders expectations are very high and nearly always ask for far more than they are worth. It is why I always believed in a pay structure across the sport in each league. As you quite rightly intimate the promoters are their own worst enemy, and are usually the ones that break their own set of rules.Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 To a point, I agree with you, but you know as well as I do that riders expectations are very high and nearly always ask for far more than they are worth. It is why I always believed in a pay structure across the sport in each league. As you quite rightly intimate the promoters are their own worst enemy, and are usually the ones that break their own set of rules.Full agree that a points structure would be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 If we look who has won the league, it's very unlikely to find a team in recent times that has won with a strength in debth team. A rapidly improving reserve plays a big part in any league winning side 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 A rapidly improving reserve plays a big part in any league winning side  IMO that`s the key to a successful strength in depth team, a couple of seasons ago we had that in Kus who put in some impressive scores from reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 Harris 2 Carr 3 Doolan 4 Gappmaier 5 Jorgensen 6 Perry 7 2 pointer  Most promoters are saying that new number 7's are coming in on a 2 now so I presume they are correct although Speedway GB tweeted differently. Love that team 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 D Bellego TJ Liam Kev Lasse Berre Tom Perry and a 2 pointer 39.29 I think personally i think they should have left at 42.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogo1 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I think if it had been left at 42.5 the likes of Berwick and Workington might have not made it to the tapes in 2017, also means the power is now back in the hands of the promoters unlike previous seasons when there wasn't really enough available riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Johnston1 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 Harris 2 Carr 3 Doolan 4 Gappmaier 5 Jorgensen 6 Perry 7 2 pointer  Most promoters are saying that new number 7's are coming in on a 2 now so I presume they are correct although Speedway GB tweeted differently. Does Gappmaier get an average reduction also since he was below 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Does Gappmaier get an average reduction also since he was below 5?No the minimum he can go is 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I think if it had been left at 42.5 the likes of Berwick and Workington might have not made it to the tapes in 2017, also means the power is now back in the hands of the promoters unlike previous seasons when there wasn't really enough available riders. Surely the power was always with the promoters some would pay more for a big hitting number 1 some would not got to balance the books remains to be seen if the racing is as good.Hopefully we are still going to see the likes of Cookie and Danny King etc,think i seen somewhere Simon Stead has retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alang Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 For years now we've been saying the best way to get better racing is to whack a few yards off the football pitch at the corners.Surely now that Berwick Rangers get one or two players sent off each game this would be the ideal time to do that.Better racing for the speedway and a smaller pitch for the nine or ten players left to run about on so they won't get too tired.Seems a win-win situation to me. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 For years now we've been saying the best way to get better racing is to whack a few yards off the football pitch at the corners.Surely now that Berwick Rangers get one or two players sent off each game this would be the ideal time to do that.Better racing for the speedway and a smaller pitch for the nine or ten players left to run about on so they won't get too tired.Seems a win-win situation to me.When you look at the pitch it looks as though you could pinch a few yards without affecting to size of the actual pitch but we all know it won't happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedcider Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I believe that the new promotion will be looking for another form of assistance from Berwick Rangers, altering their much prized pitch to improve the speedway is a non starter of an idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 The taking in of the football pitch argument has been done to death IMO, it just isn't going to happen, yes you probably could lose a yard or two around the corners but that would be turning the corners virtually square and wont improve the racing. Anyway I think the poorer racing we have now on a consistent bases is more down to the bikes than the track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsplint Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 When the Bandits came back to Shielfield they shortened the width of the pitch by 2 meters to enable the meter gap between the wall and fence so I don't think it will be made any smaller just have to live with what we've got Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestWallPoma Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) The taking in of the football pitch argument has been done to death IMO, it just isn't going to happen, yes you probably could lose a yard or two around the corners but that would be turning the corners virtually square and wont improve the racing. Anyway I think the poorer racing we have now on a consistent bases is more down to the bikes than the track. Â Aye. It's a short as it's allowed ; 100yd (100 to 130 yards). It could be narrower (at 70yard, min is 50) - but that would increase the gap between the spectators and the pitch, which personally I think is already too wide for football already. Â Fit a retractable surface along with the retractable roof ; that's the answer. Edited November 7, 2016 by WestWallPoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnstormer Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Sure I heard club were planning a new stadium with all weather surface Edited November 7, 2016 by Barnstormer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted November 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Sure I heard club were planning a new stadium with all weather surface A lot of work was put into that project, but is now on the back burner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsplint Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 With the amount of money being spent and in the planning I don't think the move to a new stadium will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Johnston1 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 No the minimum he can go is 5 Thanks for that. I was at the races on Saturday on the beer but I thought Scott said something on the radio about getting point's back with 2 point reserves and getting point's back with 5 point riders not going lower than 4. As I say I had been on the beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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