ruffdiamond Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Thought for a second this was another Holder/Batchelor thread... why,,, are they coming to Newcastle to sort the 'middle order' out ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauger_Magic Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) With all the regular injuries....we see 6 man teams a lot now! Edited August 1, 2017 by Mauger_Magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Well if its only just over a week ago its a bit much, the end of July and we are at this late stage being offered dates for a meeting that was called off on 7th May just because Newcastle United has a lunch time home football match. If the offer of new dates is that recent the Bears management are probably waiting for replies from their riders re availability. You cant run a speedway meeting without track staff who would/were at the United game. Business sense not to run against United. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted August 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Hope she enjoys her holiday Dandelion and I hope she returns fit and ready to resume her duties on here. I hope you enjoy your Holidays too.  I'm skint by the way. Thank you, hope you enjoy your holidays too  Me too That's why I asked I'm a poor student living in 2 different countries, I've got a VERY tiny budget, but I always find the money to come support my team, even if the sport is struggling, that's why it bugs me when i see people saying they're not going to support their team because of how the sport is ran... If everyone did that, every team would go bust...  why,,, are they coming to Newcastle to sort the 'middle order' out ??? Hope not... lol... Even if we got them on 0.00 averages  With all the regular injuries....we see 6 man teams a lot now! Unfortunately...  You cant run a speedway meeting without track staff who would/were at the United game. Business sense not to run against United. Should the track staff's main priority be the track over Newcastle games? Although, I suppose most of the crowd would choose football over speedway anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 They're volunteers, should be thankful they turn up, their priorities can be what ever the hell they want imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 They're volunteers, should be thankful they turn up, their priorities can be what ever the hell they want imo Fair point, but if they just turned up when they felt like it, (like some) things might not get done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted August 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) They're volunteers, should be thankful they turn up, their priorities can be what ever the hell they want imo I'm sorry, I didn't realize they were ALL volunteers, I thought just some were... But as Ruff Diamond said, if everyone did that, there'd be some weeks where there were no one turned up... I think if someone were to offer they services for the season, even as a volunteer, they should at least turn up and help every meeting for the season they promised... Unless there was something extremely wrong, it should just be like any other job once you offer to help Edited August 2, 2017 by Dandelion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 I see it a lot differently, people won't commit to volunteering every single weekend during the season but if they can be there like 3 out of 4 weeks to help that is brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted August 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 I see it a lot differently, people won't commit to volunteering every single weekend during the season but if they can be there like 3 out of 4 weeks to help that is brilliant Yes, it is brilliant... Just think if people can't commit, there should be some kind of rota? Is there? Or are people just expected to turn up every week, that's a big commitment to make... But if some people do it, fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Yes, it is brilliant... Just think if people can't commit, there should be some kind of rota? Is there? Or are people just expected to turn up every week, that's a big commitment to make... But if some people do it, fair enough when there is Newcastle United home match on, its not only the volunteers/track staff that might not be able to make it,,, there could be promotion/management, sponsors and fans that couldn't be there also. as for a 'rota',,, good luck with that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) I'm sorry, I didn't realize they were ALL volunteers, I thought just some were... But as Ruff Diamond said, if everyone did that, there'd be some weeks where there were no one turned up... I think if someone were to offer they services for the season, even as a volunteer, they should at least turn up and help every meeting for the season they promised... Unless there was something extremely wrong, it should just be like any other job once you offer to help Yes, they are all volunteers. The only person paid is the track curator for his expertise and the importance of his work. Other than that, all officials, red flaggers, pits gate personnel, dog track sheeters, marshals,etc, are volunteers. Each job needs to have a minimum number of people, but you try and get more to cover absences for sickness, holidays, occasions.etc. We are required to have 4 red flaggers, but I started this year with six as if they all turn up it is easier for everyone. We have had some who have left but we continue to look for and find new recruits to train and replace them. Don't forget it is more than just turning up for the meeting. Airfence personnel and sheeters are there during the day, return for the meeting and then have to remove the sheets and drop the airfence for the track to be ready for the dog racing for the stadium management. We are still there till after 10.00pm most meetings. We can't get access during the week to work on the track, as the stadium hosts BAGS meeting during the day, and as the pictures are transmitted in particular to the Far East for betting, we can't be seen working there as it does not look professional when selling the rights to film. So early morning Sunday is our first chance to get the track ready for the evening meeting.  NB British Afternoon Greyhound Service  Further Edit. Forgot to mention the renumeration package. Free programme and free admission for them and a friend. Anybody interested in it come and see me at the meetings. Edited August 2, 2017 by Tsunami 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackHalifax Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Only a none volunteer can suggest all volunteers should commit for a full season........... or what ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Only a none volunteer can suggest all volunteers should commit for a full season........... or what ? a think its a very grey area,,, some volunteer for a free ticket and, some want to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 a think its a very grey area,,, some volunteer for a free ticket and, some want to help. Volunteers are the salt of the earth as far as i'm concerned without them there would be no speedway free entry or not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted August 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 I know this might not be the right thread for this question, but does anyone have any information on how Kenni Larsen is doing these days? And whether his racing career is over because he wants it to be, or his injuries forced him to retire, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 I know this might not be the right thread for this question, but does anyone have any information on how Kenni Larsen is doing these days? And whether his racing career is over because he wants it to be, or his injuries forced him to retire, thanks There was a facebook post a while back which, if I remember rightly, said that he was advised not to ride as any knock to his head could potentially have serious consequences. Otherwise he seemed to be recovering ok. Apologies if I've got that wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted August 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 There was a facebook post a while back which, if I remember rightly, said that he was advised not to ride as any knock to his head could potentially have serious consequences. Otherwise he seemed to be recovering ok. Apologies if I've got that wrong. Thanks for the information, I was just curious to see what life was doing for him, hope he still gets involved with the speedway somewhere even if it's off track Such a shame, I didn't see him ride many times, but he looked like a class act on a bike and he looked like he would be going far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontrader Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited)   Yes, they are all volunteers. The only person paid is the track curator for his expertise and the importance of his work. Other than that, all officials, red flaggers, pits gate personnel, dog track sheeters, marshals,etc, are volunteers. Each job needs to have a minimum number of people, but you try and get more to cover absences for sickness, holidays, occasions.etc. We are required to have 4 red flaggers, but I started this year with six as if they all turn up it is easier for everyone. We have had some who have left but we continue to look for and find new recruits to train and replace them. Don't forget it is more than just turning up for the meeting. Airfence personnel and sheeters are there during the day, return for the meeting and then have to remove the sheets and drop the airfence for the track to be ready for the dog racing for the stadium management. We are still there till after 10.00pm most meetings. We can't get access during the week to work on the track, as the stadium hosts BAGS meeting during the day, and as the pictures are transmitted in particular to the Far East for betting, we can't be seen working there as it does not look professional when selling the rights to film. So early morning Sunday is our first chance to get the track ready for the evening meeting.  NB British Afternoon Greyhound Service  Further Edit. Forgot to mention the renumeration package. Free programme and free admission for them and a friend. Anybody interested in it come and see me at the meetings.  So the unpaid volunteers 'earn' £35 a week ( admission x2 and a programme) Perhaps that is what caused the misunderstanding.  This must be a huge cost to the promotion in addition to stadium hire, riders points and travel etc when there are so many 'friends' of volunteers getting in for free Edited August 4, 2017 by toontrader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted August 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Would it just be cheaper to hire someone to do the sheets/red flags and make the current volunteers and their 'mates' pay to get in? Just a suggestion, I mean, the people who do the sheets could do the red flags..... And they wouldn't want to bring other people in for free... It'd be an extra few hundred quid through the turnstiles... Of course if the current volunteers don't throw a mood and stop coming..... Because they have to pay like the rest of us who don't have time to help... Edited August 4, 2017 by Dandelion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Would it just be cheaper to hire someone to do the sheets/red flags and make the current volunteers and their 'mates' pay to get in? :shock: Crumbs!!! :shock: Â I hope you have got a tin hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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