StevePark Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I hadn't seen it anywhere, or at least, if I had, then I've forgotten! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 There are still riders out there without a team this season, Matthew Wethers and Theo Pijper to name two. There are bound to be more. I'm all for giving young British riders the chance to ride as many meetings as possible to further their careers but there has to be some sort of limit or there will be the same situation with r/r and guests every year due to commitment clashes. Â How about enforcing the use of a NL rider (Championship eligible 2 pointer) rather than allowing RR (or limit RR to a couple of uses per season to cover last minute emergencies?) that way riders looking to move up could gain experience, some teams would abuse the RR facility would not benefit, meetings would not be so drawn out & hopefully clubs would look to avoid signing riders who are doubling up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Â How about enforcing the use of a NL rider (Championship eligible 2 pointer) rather than allowing RR (or limit RR to a couple of uses per season to cover last minute emergencies?) that way riders looking to move up could gain experience, some teams would abuse the RR facility would not benefit, meetings would not be so drawn out & hopefully clubs would look to avoid signing riders who are doubling up. i agree with your sentiments and you could see something like that introduced, when the current drive to produce new young riders throughout the BSPA/SCB initiatives starts producing more kids. Weakening the team strengths in all leagues will help with it, and it will need ideas like yours to keep promotions on their toes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 i agree with your sentiments and you could see something like that introduced, when the current drive to produce new young riders throughout the BSPA/SCB initiatives starts producing more kids. Weakening the team strengths in all leagues will help with it, and it will need ideas like yours to keep promotions on their toes. I am not against the idea as I am all for youngsters coming through the system but there is a danger about weakening the product too much which has to be taken into account . Perhaps all reserves should be 2 pointers only maybe a better idea . Can you imagine if for instance Robert Lambert or Steve Worrall got seriously injured early on and was out for the rest of the season would supporters be happy with a 2 pointer replacing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Â How about enforcing the use of a NL rider (Championship eligible 2 pointer) rather than allowing RR (or limit RR to a couple of uses per season to cover last minute emergencies?) that way riders looking to move up could gain experience, some teams would abuse the RR facility would not benefit, meetings would not be so drawn out & hopefully clubs would look to avoid signing riders who are doubling up. Â I'd agree to that if both teams were going to be using R/R. Â But, under your idea (if I read it correctly, you want to scrap R/R altogether), if say the away team is missing their second in the averages it would be even more of a handicap having to put in an NL 2 pointer. Â We had something similar at Newcastle last season when Connor Coles rode at number 1 for Plymouth and (no offence to Connor) it ruined it as a match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I am not against the idea as I am all for youngsters coming through the system but there is a danger about weakening the product too much which has to be taken into account . Perhaps all reserves should be 2 pointers only maybe a better idea . Can you imagine if for instance Robert Lambert or Steve Worrall got seriously injured early on and was out for the rest of the season would supporters be happy with a 2 pointer replacing him. Good point although would supporters be happy with RR all season? Â I'd agree to that if both teams were going to be using R/R. Â But, under your idea (if I read it correctly, you want to scrap R/R altogether), if say the away team is missing their second in the averages it would be even more of a handicap having to put in an NL 2 pointer. Â We had something similar at Newcastle last season when Connor Coles rode at number 1 for Plymouth and (no offence to Connor) it ruined it as a match. Again a very fair point made. Perhaps a limit on the number of times a team can use RR each season? Maybe twice home and twice away so that extreme cases can be covered but equally the facility isn't abused? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I am not against the idea as I am all for youngsters coming through the system but there is a danger about weakening the product too much which has to be taken into account . Perhaps all reserves should be 2 pointers only maybe a better idea . Can you imagine if for instance Robert Lambert or Steve Worrall got seriously injured early on and was out for the rest of the season would supporters be happy with a 2 pointer replacing him. Move the team about and put the2 pointer at reserve this moving the best reserve into main body somewhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Move the team about and put the2 pointer at reserve this moving the best reserve into main body somewhere  What happens when you've already got 2 2pointers at reserve, like Newcastle have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Move the team about and put the2 pointer at reserve this moving the best reserve into main body somewhere If your team is Newcastle or Ipswich that would be a pretty raw deal . Good point although would supporters be happy with RR all season? In the70's if your #1 or any of the top 5 were out injured R/R was the only option unless they were on international duty then a guest was allowed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I don't know to be honest - but it is just silly at present.So is boycotting Newcastle speedway because of a rule that has been in place for a few years now and is likely to remain that way but hey ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsy72 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I guess you could limit the amount of times R/R can be used for 1 rider continuously ? Say 3 home and 3 away then they need replaced. That would allow say a collarbone break of a month to be covered but longer term injuries would need teams to replace. Just a thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I guess you could limit the amount of times R/R can be used for 1 rider continuously ? Say 3 home and 3 away then they need replaced. That would allow say a collarbone break of a month to be covered but longer term injuries would need teams to replace. Just a thought. Â Often easier said than done, though Gav. How often have we seen a rider get injured and there is few or no options available as a replacement and if they are available, they don't want to sign (for whatever reason)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Great to see that one of the British Semi Finals will be held at Brough Park. The date is still to be confirmed (The final is at Belle Vue on 19th June). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 So is boycotting Newcastle speedway because of a rule that has been in place for a few years now and is likely to remain that way but hey ho You are entitled to your opinion Sir - I respect that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 so rumours in the greyhound industry that sis have bought Sunderland and Newcastle greyhound tracks of hills ,wonder if it will effect the speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 so rumours in the greyhound industry that sis have bought Sunderland and Newcastle greyhound tracks of hills ,wonder if it will effect the speedway Would that be SIS Betting? Â Never heard anything about this here in Sunderland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Is SIS not the company who transmit the BAGS meetings for the bookies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Is SIS not the company who transmit the BAGS meetings for the bookies? I don't know. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I don't know. :unsure: Fat lot of good that was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Fat lot of good that was. At least I was honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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