hyderd Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Same thread appears every year but at the start of the year every team knows that they are riding to make the playoffs and then it's winner takes all. Yes it would be good if we had league champions and then playoff winners but that's not how it is You took the words right out of my mouth. Belle Vue deservedly finished top of the league even after losing 2 home matches (could even be 3), the P/Off's will be a different matter and that's the one that counts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Ok I am wrong if you say so... but I still believe the tam that finishes top of the table after months of racing should be league champions. You are wrong, no question. So you're thread is false titling. There are plenty of people who think like you. The play offs are so successful that all the speedway countries use them. They and they alone decide who wins the league title. You don't have to like it to accept it. Personally I love the play offs and make the sport feel like big time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Superleague has a shield for the team who finishes top I believe, seems like a good idea to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Yep a lot of sports do. And it makes sense. End of the day that trophy doesn't mean much, it's all about winning the final and being champions. Nonetheless, it's a nice acknowledgement that topping the table is an achievement in itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Same thread appears every year but at the start of the year every team knows that they are riding to make the playoffs and then it's winner takes all. Yes it would be good if we had league champions and then playoff winners but that's not how it is True - he could support Poole Almost every year these threads appear. When Poole top the table there doesn't tend to be a big deal made. In fact, most can't wait for Poole to be taken apart in the Play-Offs (which is rare the last few years) after topping the league. Play-Off winners are League Champions Finishing top after 28 matches gives that team 1st pick of opponents and 2nd leg at home. That's the benefits of coming top of the league, nothing more, nothing less. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Try telling Coventry, Poole won in 2010! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Bring on the play offs I say. Part 1 of a 2 part season complete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Try telling Coventry, Poole won in 2010!That would also mean Birmingham won it 2013! Gain one, we lose one! Lol. Oh yeah, well done BV. Best team over the season. Edited September 12, 2016 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) No there not for sky as the Pl would not have them would they ? they have them because clubs want them to keep the season alive keep the crowds up and make much needed money ......When the play offs start no one will give a monkeys who finished topErr, I haven't said just for SKY have I, I know the clubs, riders and fans get plenty out of them too Orion 😆 Edited September 13, 2016 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poole Quay 7 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Well done Belle Vue on winning the league but the job is only half done and now you have to win the play-off's. It will be interesting to see who you pick!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 If Sky withdrew from the sport would the BSPA revert to the 'old' systems without play offs? Of course they wouldn't. So they're here to stay and rightly so. With or without Sky the League Champions are the team who win the play off final. However there should be a shield to acknowledge the achievement of finishing top of the table. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) . Edited September 13, 2016 by ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted September 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 However there should be a shield to acknowledge the achievement of finishing top of the table. Indeed, if Belle Vue are denied now through lady luck and injury it would an injustice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I appreciate people flat our refuse to believe in Play Offs etc, but do they have to constantly impose that nonsense on everyone else. The yearly “Congratulations team who finished top are Champions” thread is comparable to a 93 year old man laying out a carrot and milk for Santa Claus every year just because they are defiant and old school. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 The play offs are here to stay as long as sky are involved. Do i like them? Yes for the fact i can see more matches on my tv. However there is no denying there should be something for the table toppers. Been close in the elite league this year but in the Premier Somerset have walked it. Couple of injuries in the play offs and they may lose , no justice in that at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Give the side who tops the table a trophy you can make a case for a team who top the table after the 2nd, 3rd or 4th meeting of the season being given a medal. Somerset have been great but all they have done thus far is complete a part of the process, they are engaged in the league season, on their way to possibly winning the title, as far down the line as a side who under the old format led the table with 4 meetings to go. It is now on them to hold their bottle, nerve etc and see it through. Somerset like every other side in the country were aware of the process before the season starts and thus there is no “injustice” if they don’t become Champions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) I to am one of the old school and there is no way that anyone can convince me that there is a fairer way to decide the best team in the land than a league. Every team faces each other twice over a full season.Ever team will have good luck bad look injurys riders missing etc but over a season the best consistent team will win and deservingly be crowed champions. But i am a realist and i can see that our sport these days need the play offs as they generate more money for the sport and thats what it needs these days to keep going.So they are here to stay and unwillingly get my support.I am still very much against the rules that allow teams to strengthen up so close to the plays offs injurys accepted(but not manipulated) i think the play offs should be competed against the same teams that your team have battled to reach a play off position which i think would make the play off rounds much fairer and give a truer reflection of who is the best team over a full season. So yes i will sit back and enjoy the plays offs but if my team does not win i will admit i will feel very pd off and hard done to after watching my team battle all season to be the best team in the league stages yet end up with sod all. Its seems that on here all the Poole fans are for the play offs.But for me the hardest loss to take in all of the play offs was 2010 when Cov beat Poole in the play offs after finishing 20 odd points behind poole in the league.If there is a Poole fan on here who can honestly say that they did not feel robbed and very pd off on that day i will be very suprised. Edited September 13, 2016 by B.V 72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Call me old school, but for me the team that finishes top of the table at the end of the season are the rightly and worthy League Champions. So congratulations Belle Vue on a fantastic season. The Play-off's are a gimmick for Sky. Clearly every season most of you say that you love the play-off's but to me it means the team that's worked the hardest all season long could lose out because of bad luck in the final matches. Effectively the league title is decided across four matches, how is that championship worthy? Surely the point of a league season is to find the most consistent team? After all, that's why we now have the GP's, to find the best rider over the entire season. Well done Belle Vue, now go pick Poole in the play-offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 The Wolves situation is a "little below the belt" IMO .As with the rolling averages they will be able to have Tai on " stand bye" every season if they make the Play offs,You can bet he will score big points when it matters.you won't see him during the season though.!!! They are not breaking any rules though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I am sure 99% of you will say that, but doesn't mean I am actually wrong. Leicester finished the Premier League top of the table in football last season, didn't need a gimmick of play off to keep that entertaining. Clutching at a few straws are we... Well done Belle Vue, now go pick Poole in the play-offs. I don't think that will happen mate.. I to am one of the old school and there is no way that anyone can convince me that there is a fairer way to decide the best team in the land than a league. Every team faces each other twice over a full season.Ever team will have good luck bad look injurys riders missing etc but over a season the best consistent team will win and deservingly be crowed champions. But i am a realist and i can see that our sport these days need the play offs as they generate more money for the sport and thats what it needs these days to keep going.So they are here to stay and unwillingly get my support.I am still very much against the rules that allow teams to strengthen up so close to the plays offs injurys accepted(but not manipulated) i think the play offs should be competed against the same teams that your team have battled to reach a play off position which i think would make the play off rounds much fairer and give a truer reflection of who is the best team over a full season. Very true. BV have done well to finish top of the regulation league , we need to beat KL tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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