proud panther Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Batchelor will improve his average by a couple of points in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Connor Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I wish somebody had asked him if he thinks he has what it takes to challenge for the number 1 jacket! Id love to see him pushing himself be better than holder. renew that old rivalry from the old days! A bit of a challenge there! Something to prove! maybe unlikely but be cool if he was to prove people wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 When you think when they rode under 16's in OZ Batchelor nearly always use to come out on top, Batchelor declined as holder progressed. Would be good if holder could push Batchelor along to challenge him for the no 1 race jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 The Polish speedway authorities are NOT higher than EU employment laws, even if they like to think they are. A speedway authority has no power to demand where someone works. They cannot dictate which leagues riders can and cannot ride in.But they could relieve you of your job if you disobey their rule and get away with it in this game I guess ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 When you think when they rode under 16's in OZ Batchelor nearly always use to come out on top, Batchelor declined as holder progressed. Would be good if holder could push Batchelor along to challenge him for the no 1 race jacket when Iversen signed for Lynn his career was in decline out of GP average around the 7 mark and look what happened to him-Batch is at the same point I feel same as Iversen was its now or never Troy is more than capable to doing the same - and with having Holder in the side and hopefully hitting the ground running in March after doing well in the Aussie championship I feel Troy is going have a great year . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 We'l see. Thats my opinion. Well it's a good job no one takes any notice of your opinions. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 spot on I've been saying that all winter - Iversen or any eu citizen can earn a living were they see fitYes. But a company can choose to offer a contract which contains an exclusivity clause. And it's up to the contractor whether they sign or not. If people really think this is breaking a law, can they quote that law? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Exactly. There appears to be no law broken here and with the potential earnings on offer Poland can put enormous pressure on riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) Yes. But a company can choose to offer a contract which contains an exclusivity clause. And it's up to the contractor whether they sign or not. If people really think this is breaking a law, can they quote that law? yes his Polish contract may well say 3 leagues only but the point I'm trying to make they cannot stop Iversen or any other EU citizen from working - now it may well be Iversen Polish contract is that good he will go along with what the poles say but from what I've read in this weeks speedway star Iversen clearly wants to ride in the UK and is prevented doing so by Polish speedway rules - personally I think what's needed is a rider to defy a Polish club and sign for a British club or 4th league side and see then what the Poles do - yes a Polish contract could be cancelled but would Gorzów in Iversen case want to lose a top rider like Iversen ? On the other hand could Iversen afford to take that chance ? Edited December 18, 2016 by Haza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 yes his Polish contract may well say 3 leagues only but the point I'm trying to make they cannot stop Iversen or any other EU citizen from working - now it may well be Iversen Polish contract is that good he will go along with what the poles say but from what I've read in this weeks speedway star Iversen clearly wants to ride in the UK and is prevented doing so by Polish speedway rules - personally I think what's needed is a rider to defy a Polish club and sign for a British club or 4th league side and see then what the Poles do - yes a Polish contract could be cancelled but would Gorzów in Iversen case want to lose a top rider like Iversen ? On the other hand could Iversen afford to take that chance ?That's it, of course he wouldn't, if it had affected more riders then no doubt something would've been done sooner .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 To be honest its mainly only affecting the top Danes. NKI and Kildemand being the 2 most high profile riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 To be honest its mainly only affecting the top Danes. NKI and Kildemand being the 2 most high profile riders.Exactly, but potentially others and it only affects the UK and Denmark with regards to losing riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 All the talk about Holder at NO1, me thinks Lambert could push him hard for the NO1 jacket if he carries improving like he has over the last 3 years. ENGLISH pride! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 All the talk about Holder at NO1, me thinks Lambert could push him hard for the NO1 jacket if he carries improving like he has over the last 3 years. ENGLISH pride!He is going to have to improve a hell of a lot to get near being a no.1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 He is going to have to improve a hell of a lot to get near being a no.1 Yep agree, but he is improving every year, fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Agree, he'll improve once again but not by enough to challenge Holder this year. He'll probably get to that level one day but not just yet. I certainly wouldn't swap him for anyone else on his average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Cant see Lambert being any better than Harris. His gating is atrocious and you can't give top fivers a couple of bikes lead by the first bend and expect to get it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 All this hype about Lambert I just can't see it, overrated at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 All this hype about Lambert I just can't see it, overrated at best. Disagree.  Talented ..definitely  Trouble is he is inconsistent. . Even in the Championship League for Newcastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 As much as I like to watch Lamberts races, and yes he has improved progressively, he's a long way off the quality of SGP riders like Chris Holder. Yes he has tons of ability and youth is on his side, but how many years do we wait before he masters the art of gating. I find it astonishing this is still his Achilles Heel . Â Unless he is able to overcome this massive disadvantage, he most probably, will never reach the height that everyone prophesised he would....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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