g13webb Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Not brilliant of course!!! He's doing it his way, who are we to question him? I hope he's enjoying his speedway, don't forget the pressure the riders are under in the Polish Extraliga, they have to feel on top of their job.... We are not questioning him, we are merely passing an opinion. But what has pressure from Polish league have to do with his form in our league. and everybody, in every walk of life has to be on top of their Job. I feel you are being too kind and can see no wrong. He has so much talent , but I question his desire and motivation..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Personally on Lambert i think he has slightly improved again.He's had a few injuries this season,he has again improved his average.Lets not forget he was plunged into the number 1 position with over half the season still to run.It's still his gating which lets him down,but again i think he has improved on that slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Personally on Lambert i think he has slightly improved again.He's had a few injuries this season,he has again improved his average.Lets not forget he was plunged into the number 1 position with over half the season still to run.It's still his gating which lets him down,but again i think he has improved on that slightly. I remember when Darcy Ward had a gating problem he spent some time I think with either Hancock or Crump and it had an affect on him as it did improve. Young riders need to use these top guys as also mentors and could learn some basic things from them. He should not be too proud or up his own backside to seek advice on an area that could cost his development dearly if he doesn't get it sorted or at least part of it. Don't get me wrong I want to see Lambert progress, as he is arguably the best young British rider we have (at the moment). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Connor Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Hes 19! he's doing just fine! Multiple age class championships, pairs championship, Been riding at number 1 improving! if it wasn't for his crooked knee he would be even better. I don't get the doubting him? if he gets the gating bit right then he's there pretty much! he will continue to improve if he is at lynn or not! and id rather him be here than not! Why are we questioning him! there are other riders in the team we could discuss about. Kai being 1! when he is on form he's awesome and when he isn't he is poor! I can see a potential janowski situation where we don't use him next season and he shines for somebody else! We have a lot of riders also that could make great riders for other teams next season too! Posing will score well at reserve for somebody, toft, thj, rose, kerr (asset). the ones we don't use for 2018 will be hot property on their averages no doubt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 We are not questioning him, we are merely passing an opinion. But what has pressure from Polish league have to do with his form in our league. and everybody, in every walk of life has to be on top of their Job. I feel you are being too kind and can see no wrong. He has so much talent , but I question his desire and motivation..... You were saying he should be doing more, I obviously mistook your meaning, thought you meant he should be racing in the Polish Extraliga, hence my reply. As others have said he has struggled somewhat with injury, he also lost two fellow heat leaders in July, particularly Chris Holder who I know he enjoyed racing with and wanted to race with and both who would have helped him with different bits no doubt..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Robert Lambert is doing ok. So why don't all his knockers get off his back? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Hes 19! he's doing just fine! Multiple age class championships, pairs championship, Been riding at number 1 improving! if it wasn't for his crooked knee he would be even better. I don't get the doubting him? if he gets the gating bit right then he's there pretty much! he will continue to improve if he is at lynn or not! and id rather him be here than not! Why are we questioning him! there are other riders in the team we could discuss about. Kai being 1! when he is on form he's awesome and when he isn't he is poor! I can see a potential janowski situation where we don't use him next season and he shines for somebody else! We have a lot of riders also that could make great riders for other teams next season too! Posing will score well at reserve for somebody, toft, thj, rose, kerr (asset). the ones we don't use for 2018 will be hot property on their averages no doubt! Nobody is doubting him, or his ability, We are questioning him because we care, we feel he is part of Kings Lynn, we want him to do well. We don't feel the same way about Kai because, he is not a born and bred Kings Lynn star. Probably if he stays long enough we might feel different in the future.... But I agree about his inconsistency . Robert Lambert is doing ok. So why don't all his knockers get off his back? Nobody is knocking him, merely passing an opinion on this obviously talented youngster...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Its all down to opinions, and I take what you say on board. But I've seen Robert ride some unbelievable races, I've seen him pull the most amazing passes you could imagine. This boy has talent coming out of his ears. But that's the problem. It difficult for some of us to witness these feats of magic and then watching him riding about creating no pressure to pass the man in front. As if that will do.. With the experience of 4 yrs in the top league, . You cant tell me there are 15 riders in the league with more latent than him, but the league says there is. He should be much higher in the league of averages than he is. I believe he is happy at the slow progress he is making, But I don't think he aims high enough. I think is the best young talent this country has produced for many a year, and It annoys me to see other young riders making bigger strides than Robert. I just want him to be that superstar today, rather than wait till tomorrow..... Some say, 'Tomorrow never comes....' I hear what you are saying too and you have had the pleasure of watching him develop more than me and maybe your expectation is heightened because of the hype around him. Woffy wasn't a big success straight away either and I fully expect Robert to develop into a top standard rider so long as he does things the right way and if that means concentrating on abroad then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 if Polish rules are relaxed for 2018 and Niels comes back to KL, i hope that Robert decides to stay and works without the pressure he had this year which should push him to the next level without having to be number 1 in all the meetings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 MIGHT not need the Poles to relax the rules if rumours about Swedish tracks cutting their budgets are correct and, of course, NKI still resides in England and not that far from KL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 if Polish rules are relaxed for 2018 and Niels comes back to KL, i hope that Robert decides to stay and works without the pressure he had this year which should push him to the next level without having to be number 1 in all the meetings. Nothing would please me more than Neils coming back next year. He left a massive hole that has been difficult to fill. Whether Lambert would feel the same way has yet to be seen, and that worries me.... Here we have a young man, 19yrs old with the world at his feet. Talent and ability by the bucket load. You would have thought he would be standing 10 foot tall without a care in the world. Happy, his smile and personality should light up the whole stadium. He should be that strong minded he can overcome anybody or any problem put in front of him, knowing when he gets on that bike there are few that are is equal.... But watching him and his mannerisms, you get a totally different impression of a rider as he appears to have all the troubles in the world. Moody, Aggressive, Arguementive, all the attributes you associate with someone under pressure. When Lynn had both Neils and Lambert before, all could see there was a tension between them. But Lambert should be using situations like this to learn and better himself, not creating walls between and other riders. If the chance arises that we can have Neils back, Lambert would do well to fellow him as a perfect example of the a class rider who gives everything for the cause... everytime.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 I don't think all the blame can be laid at Lambert's feet regarding Niels.They both have to work together.Whilst i would love to see Niels back because he scores plenty of points.I thought he had a touch of GP itus about him the last couple of seasons where on the track he goes out for himself.Off track a different person.This is my opinion of course.If they could work together Lambert/Iversen it would be great for the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Just can't see it being viable to bring NKI back ( however much I would like to see it ) unless that is, a major sponsor can be found to underwrite his signing. I think that the 2018 Premier League set up will be yet another, "on the cheap" cost cutting venture, no bad thing if it leaves the superstars to compete in other parts of Europe. Retain Robert Lambert at all costs to hang on to the remaining fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Robert Lambert is out of the Premier Riders Championship tonight and not riding, his place is taken by J Auty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Robert probably puts loads of pressure on himself to perform and earn money, he wants to make it to the top, he has the extra pressure of being captain at 19. He told me himself that he enjoyed the banter with Holder, he certainly wanted to team ride with him, it's important to have a laugh together. On Radio Norfolk yesterday he said that he thinks the fans should be given more information about what is going on during a meeting, he feels people get the wrong end of the stick about riders etc and it puts people off going to speedway. Sometumes when he approaches the big mouthed fans he just wants to put them right and/or know where their abuse is coming from. I well remember Jason crump getting lots of abuse at an ELRC at Coventry, it upset him big time as he couldn't understand what he was doing to deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Trees wrote about Robert Lambert " On Radio Norfolk yesterday he said that he thinks the fans should be given more information about what is going on during a meeting, he feels people get the wrong end of the stick about riders etc and it puts people off going to speedway" Robert is correct about this and it is what a number of Stars fans want to see happening, as part of the not treating them as mushrooms in future by the Promotion. Please help this to be brought about via the Supporters Club IF Buster is serious about having a better, more positive relationship with the fans. Persuading Mark Carney to return would be a start. As would holding a couple of meetings before Christmas with fans who want to contribute ideas to the promised further success of KLS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) Mark Gent got of load of stick when he did the media side he told me he could only tell the fans what the promotion told him - he got fed up with the stick he was getting and moved on I'm now not convinced he was at fault - then there was Rory Schlien last season Holder Batch Gavin Caney Rob Lyons -so what is the reason ? Edited September 16, 2017 by Haza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 Why has it gone so wrong? A few years back riders were queueing up to join the stars. We were the place to be. That was still under the control of Buster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 Why has it gone so wrong? A few years back riders were queueing up to join the stars. We were the place to be. That was still under the control of Buster A very different Buster then. He has become so much more set in his ways and his ultra stubbornness ( or self belief as you prefer ) has led to a lot of fans becoming disillusioned about how KLS has been run in the last few years. Buster's BSPA role has not helped KLS and perhaps not him either. He has as they say " lost the dressing room" AND the terraces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 He admitted last Wednesday that being Chairman has led to him neglecting the club and his family. Mark Gent got of load of stick when he did the media side he told me he could only tell the fans what the promotion told him - he got fed up with the stick he was getting and moved on I'm now not convinced he was at fault - then there was Rory Schlien last season Holder Batch Gavin Caney Rob Lyons -so what is the reason ?Marc didn't help himself with his relationship with the fans, he was very aloof imo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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