King's Lynn Stars 2017

[waytogo28]

I will go to the RH match and if there is no significant reduction I will take the matter to the County Court. Fans who paid for the double header have been defrauded. Man Up Buster and do the "right' thing if you still know what that is. There should be NO charge for those with that ticket and Poole fans who request a refund should get one. As the head of the BSPA, are they all to be tarred with the same brush as you of being crooked?

[g13webb]

On my part, I'm doing my lil bit, together with others, to find ways of giving a little bit more to fans on race nights through the Supporters Club and our riders by way of Rider of the Night. All our members who have chosen their Rider of the Night, met the rider, had photo taken and watched from the centre have been happy. The kids who have been mascots, had pit walks, met and had photos taken, Sat on rider's bikes, watched from the centre have loved it, their enthusiasm is wonderful

 

Just read what happened last night at Wolves when you're moaning. When the clutch drops the bullrubbish stops, it's a dangerous sport for them all, they deserve support if you enjoy speedway racing, it's no walk in the park!

 

Please let me commend you for all your excellent work you do running the Supporters' Club. It is in deed a real positive addition to the speedway. I admire the time and effort you put in to promote the work the club does. What a pity Buster doesn't take a leaf out of your book and promote the sport the same way. Better still employ you as a PR role so keeping everyone up to date with ALL the facts..

 

As for what happened at Wolves the other night, Lynn Stars, without doubt is the weakest team in the Premiership. Come to think about it, we couldn't hold our own in the Champions' League.. Yes, most of the riders do put in the effort but that alone is not enough to justify paying top whack to get in.. What happened at Wolves was unfortunate, but when these kids ride 6 meetings in a week, they become tired. The track is not the easiest to master, so these situations are just waiting to happen. Name me another club who has been force to compete with only 4 riders like Lynn has this year.. That's the 3rd double header we have done this year and each has ended in disaster.

 

Probably the next time Buster cancels a meeting on a whim, he'll remember the consequences of the alternatives.

[waytogo28]

GRW 123 wrote " Probably the next time Buster cancels a meeting on a whim, he'll remember the consequences of the alternatives. "

That is the problem - Buster seems incapable of remembering such things, or even of thinking about who they affect ( the fans ) other than himself. I agree that Trees does a good job but it is peeing in the wind as they say. Unless Buster takes on someone who can forge a good communicative bridge with the fans and a co-promoter who DOES recognise the consequences of cancelling on a whim, and is prepared to argue the point, nothing will improve for KLS. Only when he is standing there with 200 fans and his staff of "yes Boss" people, will it come home to him that his way was not the best way after all. The speedway is no longer his main income stream and he can therefore continue to harden his resolve about how speedway should be run, both at King's Lynn at in the UK.

[ouch]

The Colts would have been forced to use four riders only at Cradley recently but we had a stand by rider in attendance.

[g13webb]

The season at last, has finished. Its so disappointing our season has ended this early. We started out back in March, with huge potential, with high PO and KO Cup intentions, but finished up as Wooden spoon contenders. In the end we couldn't buy a win. Cant believe something that felt so good should have finished so poor. Probably, only the likes of Batch and Holder will gain any satisfaction from the way things turned out, but for the true followers of the Sport, this year has been a massive turn-off.

 

Its all too easy to point fingers, but the fact remains, the Club made some bad decisions. The way the fans are kept in the dark, and taken for a ride, amounts to contempt of the highest order. Yes, we have to move on, but not before we have learnt from these bad times, ensuring they never happen again...

 

As for the riders we used, some were good, some were poor, and those who I would welcome back.

 

Holder; Batchelor: Quality riders not always at their best. Both thought more of themselves than the Fans or the Club, Pleased they've gone.

Robert Lambert: Disappointed he hasn't progressed as quick as I thought he would. He has more ability than most, His scores are not as consistent as they ought to be. Obviously talented and has a grand future, but needs to put more importance into his riding, Too many excuses, and too many last places for someone who is supposed to be a future World Champion. Probably next year he'll step up, (Keep)

THJ: Massive disappointment. A mere shadow of the rider he once was. For him to stay he has to have a massive upturn in form. (Go)

MPT: Been around a long time, Development has been slow. But I feel next year could be his best. (Keep)

Huckenbeck: Started off brilliantly but faded as the season wore on. To me he didn't do enough as often as he ought. Unless total commitment (Go)

Jorgensen : Star of our season. a tremendous acquisition. (Keep)

Rose: Good early season form, Too injuries prone. (Go)

Porsing: Potentially good, but oh dear, always a problem, always an excuse. Had too many chances (Go)

Simon Lambert: Way past his best. Now not good enough . (Go)

Auty: Needs to belong somewhere. Too good to let go (Keep)

Bailey: Way out of his depth... (Go)

 

Promotions need to do a lot better...

[waytogo28]

GRW 123 wrote " but for the true followers of the Sport, this year has been a massive turn-off.

Its all too easy to point fingers, but the fact remains, the Club made some bad decisions. The way the fans are kept in the dark, and taken for a ride, amounts to contempt of the highest order. Yes, we have to move on, but not before we have learnt from these bad times, ensuring they never happen again"

AND I totally agree with him about the above and his excellent critique of the riders who should Go and who should Stay.

However I fear that with the same promotion it is obvious that no lessons have been or will be learnt. There is no willingness to learn and that is the only way that progress can be made. Whoever really made those bad decisions ( wether Lyon, Allit or Chapman ) appear to show little sincere concern about the future. Without a new Promoter I just can't see things changing - even if the sport is re-structured yet again under Buster's leadership of the BSPA. The "massive turn off" referred to has certainly been true for me personally and after attending for all of the KLS seasons since they started at Saddlebow Rd. I am most unlikely to go next year.

[Haza]

The season at last, has finished. Its so disappointing our season has ended this early. We started out back in March, with huge potential, with high PO and KO Cup intentions, but finished up as Wooden spoon contenders. In the end we couldn't buy a win. Cant believe something that felt so good should have finished so poor. Probably, only the likes of Batch and Holder will gain any satisfaction from the way things turned out, but for the true followers of the Sport, this year has been a massive turn-off.

 

Its all too easy to point fingers, but the fact remains, the Club made some bad decisions. The way the fans are kept in the dark, and taken for a ride, amounts to contempt of the highest order. Yes, we have to move on, but not before we have learnt from these bad times, ensuring they never happen again...

 

As for the riders we used, some were good, some were poor, and those who I would welcome back.

 

Holder; Batchelor: Quality riders not always at their best. Both thought more of themselves than the Fans or the Club, Pleased they've gone.

Robert Lambert: Disappointed he hasn't progressed as quick as I thought he would. He has more ability than most, His scores are not as consistent as they ought to be. Obviously talented and has a grand future, but needs to put more importance into his riding, Too many excuses, and too many last places for someone who is supposed to be a future World Champion. Probably next year he'll step up, (Keep)

THJ: Massive disappointment. A mere shadow of the rider he once was. For him to stay he has to have a massive upturn in form. (Go)

MPT: Been around a long time, Development has been slow. But I feel next year could be his best. (Keep)

Huckenbeck: Started off brilliantly but faded as the season wore on. To me he didn't do enough as often as he ought. Unless total commitment (Go)

Jorgensen : Star of our season. a tremendous acquisition. (Keep)

Rose: Good early season form, Too injuries prone. (Go)

Porsing: Potentially good, but oh dear, always a problem, always an excuse. Had too many chances (Go)

Simon Lambert: Way past his best. Now not good enough . (Go)

Auty: Needs to belong somewhere. Too good to let go (Keep)

Bailey: Way out of his depth... (Go)

 

Promotions need to do a lot better...

I agree will all of the above but most of our problems was self inflicted we basically got what we deserve. The promotion needs to take a long hard look at its self and how it treats its fans .

I've not attended a meeting at KL since July 1st and I won't be returning till attitudes change off track .

[Trees]

Don't forget the Pairs trophy Robert and Chris won early in the season....

 

Buster, given what he said after the meeting Wednesday, is aware of the lack of communication and has plans to improve things.

[semion]

Buster can certainly talk the talk.........

[tellboy]

Buster can certainly talk the talk.........

So can some on here.

[waytogo28]

Don't forget the Pairs trophy Robert and Chris won early in the season....

 

Buster, given what he said after the meeting Wednesday, is aware of the lack of communication and has plans to improve things.

 

Hurray! I will be watching and listening closely to see if enough changes are made to KLS to tempt me back to Saddlebow Rd. in 2018

[Kickitov]

Don't forget the Pairs trophy Robert and Chris won early in the season....

 

Buster, given what he said after the meeting Wednesday, is aware of the lack of communication and has plans to improve things.

I'm pretty sure he said that this time last year as well.

[Daniel Smith]

Out of interest, what was the crowd like on Wednesday night.

[g13webb]

Don't forget the Pairs trophy Robert and Chris won early in the season....

 

Buster, given what he said after the meeting Wednesday, is aware of the lack of communication and has plans to improve things.

 

I believe you make a tremendous PR officer, You obviously love the club and have their best interest at heart, But if you were in that position, would you be told everything ??

[Daniel Smith]

The season at last, has finished. Its so disappointing our season has ended this early. We started out back in March, with huge potential, with high PO and KO Cup intentions, but finished up as Wooden spoon contenders. In the end we couldn't buy a win. Cant believe something that felt so good should have finished so poor. Probably, only the likes of Batch and Holder will gain any satisfaction from the way things turned out, but for the true followers of the Sport, this year has been a massive turn-off.

 

Its all too easy to point fingers, but the fact remains, the Club made some bad decisions. The way the fans are kept in the dark, and taken for a ride, amounts to contempt of the highest order. Yes, we have to move on, but not before we have learnt from these bad times, ensuring they never happen again...

 

As for the riders we used, some were good, some were poor, and those who I would welcome back.

 

Holder; Batchelor: Quality riders not always at their best. Both thought more of themselves than the Fans or the Club, Pleased they've gone.

Robert Lambert: Disappointed he hasn't progressed as quick as I thought he would. He has more ability than most, His scores are not as consistent as they ought to be. Obviously talented and has a grand future, but needs to put more importance into his riding, Too many excuses, and too many last places for someone who is supposed to be a future World Champion. Probably next year he'll step up, (Keep)

THJ: Massive disappointment. A mere shadow of the rider he once was. For him to stay he has to have a massive upturn in form. (Go)

MPT: Been around a long time, Development has been slow. But I feel next year could be his best. (Keep)

Huckenbeck: Started off brilliantly but faded as the season wore on. To me he didn't do enough as often as he ought. Unless total commitment (Go)

Jorgensen : Star of our season. a tremendous acquisition. (Keep)

Rose: Good early season form, Too injuries prone. (Go)

Porsing: Potentially good, but oh dear, always a problem, always an excuse. Had too many chances (Go)

Simon Lambert: Way past his best. Now not good enough . (Go)

Auty: Needs to belong somewhere. Too good to let go (Keep)

Bailey: Way out of his depth... (Go)

 

Promotions need to do a lot better...

 

I agree with all of that apart from Robert Lambert.

I believe he has to move on, even for a year or 2 to benefit his career. It will also benefit King's Lynn as he'd return better and in the prime of his career.

[stevebrum]

Robert Lambert: Disappointed he hasn't progressed as quick as I thought he would. He has more ability than most, His scores are not as consistent as they ought to be. Obviously talented and has a grand future, but needs to put more importance into his riding, Too many excuses, and too many last places for someone who is supposed to be a future World Champion. Probably next year he'll step up, (Keep)

 

Personally I think he is still doing very well. His average has increased since 2016. Internationally he is making people sit up and take notice. (World Cup apart).

I get the feeling he thinks British Speedway is a joke and we need to start looking after our better riders or else he too will opt out and progress further elsewhere.

So much more pressure put on him this season than was necessary due to the selfish actions of others. The fact he was still able to add to his average despite all that pressure is pretty remarkable IMHO.

[semion]

So can some on here.

But they aint looking to get people to part with 17 quid + a week are they ?

[g13webb]

Personally I think he is still doing very well. His average has increased since 2016. Internationally he is making people sit up and take notice. (World Cup apart).

I get the feeling he thinks British Speedway is a joke and we need to start looking after our better riders or else he too will opt out and progress further elsewhere.

So much more pressure put on him this season than was necessary due to the selfish actions of others. The fact he was still able to add to his average despite all that pressure is pretty remarkable IMHO.

 

Its all down to opinions, and I take what you say on board. But I've seen Robert ride some unbelievable races, I've seen him pull the most amazing passes you could imagine. This boy has talent coming out of his ears. But that's the problem. It difficult for some of us to witness these feats of magic and then watching him riding about creating no pressure to pass the man in front. As if that will do..

 

With the experience of 4 yrs in the top league, . You cant tell me there are 15 riders in the league with more latent than him, but the league says there is. He should be much higher in the league of averages than he is. I believe he is happy at the slow progress he is making, But I don't think he aims high enough. I think is the best young talent this country has produced for many a year, and It annoys me to see other young riders making bigger strides than Robert.

 

I just want him to be that superstar today, rather than wait till tomorrow.....

 

Some say, 'Tomorrow never comes....'

[Trees]

Out of interest, what was the crowd like on Wednesday night.

Not brilliant of course!!!

 

Its all down to opinions, and I take what you say on board. But I've seen Robert ride some unbelievable races, I've seen him pull the most amazing passes you could imagine. This boy has talent coming out of his ears. But that's the problem. It difficult for some of us to witness these feats of magic and then watching him riding about creating no pressure to pass the man in front. As if that will do..

 

With the experience of 4 yrs in the top league, . You cant tell me there are 15 riders in the league with more latent than him, but the league says there is. He should be much higher in the league of averages than he is. I believe he is happy at the slow progress he is making, But I don't think he aims high enough. I think is the best young talent this country has produced for many a year, and It annoys me to see other young riders making bigger strides than Robert.

 

I just want him to be that superstar today, rather than wait till tomorrow.....

 

Some say, 'Tomorrow never comes....'

He's doing it his way, who are we to question him? I hope he's enjoying his speedway, don't forget the pressure the riders are under in the Polish Extraliga, they have to feel on top of their job....

[STEVEHOLS54]

I think Lambert has to start making some important decisions.

 

I think he maybe has to drop Champ and concentrate now on UK/POL and Sweden.

 

His talents are above Polish 2nd Div and he has had his nursery stint in that league. He needs if poss Polish EXL if he can be promoted correctly or at worse Nice league 1. He certainly also needs to meet the same top riders in Swedish Elite League.

 

Those should be his main focus and then topped off with things such as World U21 which he still qualifies for and maybe try and get some SGP qualifying experience if possible.

 

I have had some reservations about him as we have to remember he did get a good grounding in the sport as an under aged rider in Germany before UK. BUT yes he has talent and perhaps its a question of where he rides and the guidance he gets. Seen lots of Forum comments about his Mum being a driving force. I don't know but I think with right Professional guidance he can go a long way.

 

Nearly all say he has got the talent but its untapping it more on to the big stage.

 

Much as I like Poole and their promotion of the good young Aussies (incl the likes of Jason Doyle when he was developing), I do find it a shame that a young rider like Lambert with all his talent at a tender young age is not getting pushed forward as much as the likes of young Aussies such as Kurtz/Holder Jr/Fricke etc.

 

Maybe he does need a move away into team where perhaps not so much pressure put on his like this season also with losing NKI as the established heat leader. He is still only 19 and I think yes after 4 seasons next season needs to be his breakthough year on the big stage.

 

I hope he makes it as the top level he is one of the few Brits currently who could make it big in the sport. Fingers crossed.