g13webb Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Terry Betts, Dave Jessup, Henka Gustafsson, Jason Crump, Nicki Pedersen? It wasn't my intention to turn this thread into a 'Whose the best No1 Lynn has ever had'. I voiced an opinion, when replying to another post' of how important NKI has been for the Stars, and I stand by that comment when saying he is as good as any we have had, and that includes all those that has since been mentioned. No, I do not have a short memory, nor selective problems with certain riders. but it seem others suffer from them tainted memories. We should remember that the recent racing format gives riders like Niels a far stiffest challenge than anything before, he is racing against heat leaders in every race. Even so, for 6 years he has reign supreme at the top of the scores, always keeping Lynn in-with a chance of winning. He was forever present, being the ultimate example of a professional. In every race he gives his all, and is a perfect gentleman to suite. To compare any rider with the attributes and attitude of NKI is indeed a complement in itself..... Yes, we have had some special riders over the years, Terry Betts was the first. riding for 13 years he was a terrific talisman. he more than most put Kings Lynn on the map. Not of the World class others could be compared with , but a fantastic club man. Others like Rickardsson, Crump, Adams, Pedersen , and others who didn't stay long enough to be considered as worthy contestants to Niels claimed spot. Henka, Jessup, Loram and Topinka were all top riders and class opponents, but none reaching the height of Niels scores in regular competition. Michael Lee, I left till last. In all my years of following Lynn he was the most awesome riders I've ever seen. He could do things on a bike others could only dream of. He was capable of making the very best look like fools. When it came to talent, he was without equal. Unfortunately, once he had won that 1st world title it went pear shape. From that point he proceeded to undo all the wonderful things he had done and in the end he disappeared from everyone's lists.... So when looking back I am more than happy to class Niels as GOOD as any No1, Lynn has probably ever had.... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 If we are including seasons in isolation then I would argue that in 2011 Bjerre was one of the club's best number ones.....achieved a 9+ average and finish fourth in the overall CMA list and beat everyone above and around him in heat 15's at Lynn along the way. Got completely eclipsed by Holder and Ward in the Play Offs unfortunately but was a fantastic number one for the club in its first season back in the top flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Most likely line-up 1. Danny King 9.57 2. Lewis Rose 6.12 3. Nikolas Porsing 6.99 4. Michael Palm Toft 6.98 5. Robert Lambert 8.92 6. Lewis Kerr 5.98 7. Kai Huckenbeck 5.14 49.69 0.31 Appreciate what you're trying to do and yes it represent a solid 1-7 team. My only issue is we leave our selves open for when the opposition has a strong No1 To be successful we need to win all matches at home and also some away. I feel the team you suggested would struggle to impose themselves against top class riders.. Because the league is everting back to the old heat format, it would be more important to have strong leaders and less in the reserve places.... I would rather go for something like, NKI (or Holder); Porsing; K. Bjerre (or Batch); Rose, Lambert; Huckenbeck and Bailey.. .. . If we are including seasons in isolation then I would argue that in 2011 Bjerre was one of the club's best number ones.....achieved a 9+ average and finish fourth in the overall CMA list and beat everyone above and around him in heat 15's at Lynn along the way. Got completely eclipsed by Holder and Ward in the Play Offs unfortunately but was a fantastic number one for the club in its first season back in the top flight. I didn't think anybody was talking about one season wonders, but yes KB did have an impressive year. But my lasting memory of 2011 was having travelled to Dorset for the playoff Bjerre was a massive let down..... That was the only season when he was better than Niels.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 KING'S LYNN ? 1 Matej Zagar 10.47 2 Robert Lambert 8.92 3 Kenneth Bjerre 8.22 4 Troy Batchelor 7.36 5 Niklas Porsing 6.99 6 Lewis Kerr 5.98 7 Josh Bailey 2.05 Total 49.99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 KING'S LYNN ? 1 Matej Zagar 10.47 2 Robert Lambert 8.92 3 Kenneth Bjerre 8.22 4 Troy Batchelor 7.36 5 Niklas Porsing 6.99 6 Lewis Kerr 5.98 7 Josh Bailey 2.05 Total 49.99 Zagar ?? I'd sooner go with a 3 point junior least a junior wouldn't go missing during a meeting . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 KING'S LYNN ? 1 Matej Zagar 10.47 2 Robert Lambert 8.92 3 Kenneth Bjerre 8.22 4 Troy Batchelor 7.36 5 Niklas Porsing 6.99 6 Lewis Kerr 5.98 7 Josh Bailey 2.05 Total 49.99 Good looking team but surely Lynn would be crazy not to have Huckenbeck back on thst average. Should be the first signing in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Zagar is a pipe dream. Bjerre, Lambert & either Schlien or Batchelor will be Kings Lynn heat leaders. NKI is running out of time to be World Champion if he is ever going to win one, needs to concentrate on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 KING'S LYNN ? 1 Matej Zagar 10.47 2 Robert Lambert 8.92 3 Kenneth Bjerre 8.22 4 Troy Batchelor 7.36 5 Niklas Porsing 6.99 6 Lewis Kerr 5.98 7 Josh Bailey 2.05 Total 49.99 King and rose/huckenbeck for zagar and kerr more likely? Decent looking team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 The fact that no team announcements have been made, accept a few 'Tweets' saying they're working hard on putting a team together, am I right in thinking there may be a supporter meeting to make them announcement or am I still living in cuckoo land ????? Probably Buster been looking at a few of the suggestions on here and thinking 'that's a good idea', or probably 'Can't afford that!!' . Does anybody know what he's thinking ????... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 The fact that no team announcements have been made, accept a few 'Tweets' saying they're working hard on putting a team together, am I right in thinking there may be a supporter meeting to make them announcement or am I still living in cuckoo land ????? Probably Buster been looking at a few of the suggestions on here and thinking 'that's a good idea', or probably 'Can't afford that!!' . Does anybody know what he's thinking ????... They did tweet a few days back that they're looking at running a supporters meeting again Also, Robert Lambert signs for 3rd tier Polish club Lublin Have to say, I don't get it at all. Polish 3rd tier is a worse standard than the new British Championship league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 They did tweet a few days back that they're looking at running a supporters meeting again Also, Robert Lambert signs for 3rd tier Polish club Lublin Have to say, I don't get it at all. Polish 3rd tier is a worse standard than the new British Championship league He'll get regular rides out there and put himself in the shop window for higher tier teams. It's not as odd as it sounds, I'm sure he'd rather be riding regularly and getting a regular paycheck than signing for a bigger club and not getting picked every week. He's still young and developing, the more he races the better for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 They did tweet a few days back that they're looking at running a supporters meeting again Also, Robert Lambert signs for 3rd tier Polish club Lublin Have to say, I don't get it at all. Polish 3rd tier is a worse standard than the new British Championship league He will be guaranteed meetings at that level and then hopefully move up the leagues. He's still young, plenty of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Riding regularly on big Polish circuits will do him far more good longer term than some of the smaller tracks in our Championship, even if the standard is lower. And as others have said it puts him in the shop window. Hopefully he still get regular rides in Sweden too. Edited November 14, 2016 by Gordon Bennett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 They did tweet a few days back that they're looking at running a supporters meeting again Also, Robert Lambert signs for 3rd tier Polish club Lublin Have to say, I don't get it at all. Polish 3rd tier is a worse standard than the new British Championship league As everyone says, hopefully it's a stepping stone for him, he will learn the track surfaces, no wasted flights out there, good experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starboy118 Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 As everyone says, hopefully it's a stepping stone for him, he will learn the track surfaces, no wasted flights out there, good experience. Will he learn how to start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Will he learn how to start? He'll continue his learning curve out there 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Whilst you all may end up correct regarding Lambert I still feel it's a backwards step to take. It's all well and good getting big Polish track time but he's not really challenging himself, it just looks like the easy root has been taken. The track size I'm not sure is what he needs, more competitive rider's and the ability to gate should be his target. We all know already he's fast enough. After all the natural ability and potential he'd shown I just feel he's now stuttering Even Ellis now has taken a chance in a 2 tier Polish team, showing a bit more ambition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Whilst you all may end up correct regarding Lambert I still feel it's a backwards step to take. It's all well and good getting big Polish track time but he's not really challenging himself, it just looks like the easy root has been taken. The track size I'm not sure is what he needs, more competitive rider's and the ability to gate should be his target. We all know already he's fast enough. After all the natural ability and potential he'd shown I just feel he's now stuttering Even Ellis now has taken a chance in a 2 tier Polish team, showing a bit more ambition. It's his career, Polish teams are ruthless, there is no learning time, do it from the off or you're out, if he can use this as a stepping stone then great 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) I see this as a guarenteed paycheck rather than a stepping stone. The Pols are a lot of things but stupid they are not. They no doubt, are aware that Lambert cant gate and until such time they think he's not good enough to compete the top leagues. I must be honest and say this gating thing really worries me. He should be far better at this than he is at present. Its all very exciting watching him come from the back but to be considered as world class he needs to get out of that gate. The gating technique is 70% of the game. If you can't do that then you'll only ever be an also ran. Looking back as his short career, how many meetings already, has he lost out at the final hurdle. Maxed out in the heats only to lose when it mattered. Its that important, I would have thought he would have employed a meteor, (I missed the N out and the computer replaced the intended word.. Sorry!!) because after competing for a few years he don't appear any better than he was when he started out. The higher the class of rider the more difficult it is to come from the back....... Rather than waste his time in the Polish 3rd Div. I would thought his time would be better learning how to trap. Think of all the top Polish riders at their young age, would they bother riding in the 3rd Div?? ........ Edited November 14, 2016 by GRW123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Whilst you all may end up correct regarding Lambert I still feel it's a backwards step to take. It's all well and good getting big Polish track time but he's not really challenging himself, it just looks like the easy root has been taken. The track size I'm not sure is what he needs, more competitive rider's and the ability to gate should be his target. We all know already he's fast enough. After all the natural ability and potential he'd shown I just feel he's now stuttering Even Ellis now has taken a chance in a 2 tier Polish team, showing a bit more ambition. Maybe it's the only offer he has had from Poland,so took it.May as well ride somewhere as to nowhere in Poland. I see this as a guarenteed paycheck rather than a stepping stone. The Pols are a lot of things but stupid they are not. They no doubt, are aware that Lambert cant gate and until such time they think he's not good enough to compete the top leagues. I must be honest and say this gating thing really worries me. He should be far better at this than he is at present. Its all very exciting watching him come from the back but to be considered as world class he needs to get out of that gate. The gating technique is 70% of the game. If you can't do that then you'll only ever be an also ran. Looking back as his short career, how many meetings already, has he lost out at the final hurdle. Maxed out in the heats only to lose when it mattered. Its that important, I would have thought he would have employed a meteor, because after competing for a few years he don't appear any better than he was when he started out. The higher the class of rider the more difficult it is to come from the back....... Rather than waste his time in the Polish 3rd Div. I would thought his time would be better learning how to trap. Think of all the top Polish riders at their young age, would they bother riding in the 3rd Div?? ........ You would think he would be out of the gate like a rocket if he used a meteor Edited November 14, 2016 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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