Bagpuss Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Think it's the muck used rather than the man in the tractor semmers. A little less clay would go a long way to better racing. Would love to see the inside line taken in too to make the track shorter and wider, perhaps one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 NKI has surely only ever missed Stars meetings because of contractual obligations, never because of preference as you put it GRW. Yes last year was a different matter because he didn't set out to race the whole season for us. He is the only GP rider who races 4 leagues and it is hard to spread yourself at certain times of the season. Â For 6 years he's been a great RACER for us, very rare in single figures, if he does not sign for us in 2017 he will be missed big time. Â I hope we hear the team line up soon. Â I've always been Niels greatest fan. Would travel miles just because he was riding. I appreciate more than most, what he has done for KL and without doubt he is equal to any No1 we have ever had. (that's a massive complement in itself). BUT we cannot have a rider in our team, who cannot commit 100% for all our meetings, whatever reason. All the good he does when riding for us, is undone the first meeting he misses.. We want to have a chance to be successful with a team that is a unit with plenty of fight and spirit. We can't have that if someone is going to be missing several meetings a year. Â Don't get me wrong. if Niels signs and commits 100% to the cause, I would be 1 'Happy Chappy' !!!!...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Just thought I'd put it out there  1. Iversen 12.662. Huckenbeck 5.143. Lambert 8.924. Rose 6.125. Holder 12.536. Greaves 2.327. Bailey 2.05  49.73 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Just thought I'd put it out there  1. Iversen 12.66 2. Huckenbeck 5.14 3. Lambert 8.92 4. Rose 6.12 5. Holder 12.53 6. Greaves 2.32 7. Bailey 2.05  49.73  I like that a lot, Hugh potential, the only problem I can see is would Buster get enough through the gate to finance 3 bit hitters??? More sponsorship needed to facilitate a line up of this quality.  It has always been my belief that it we produced the track for racing like it once was, We had a team to produce exciting racing all the time, and was sitting proudly at the top of the league, every meeting properly promoted on local media, the crowds would again flock in to the levels we use to enjoy.........  An optimist to the end...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Terribly weak reserves. Could possibly see Bailey at seven with a much stronger six but those two together would be cannon fodder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Downgrade holder or puk to k bjerre who will be a more than decent 3rd hl. Then use the extra points to upgrade a reserve to someone like kerr. Or Porsing if he fits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Terribly weak reserves. Could possibly see Bailey at seven with a much stronger six but those two together would be cannon fodder. Â I agree they're cannon fodder but they'd only need to score 2/3 points each at home to pretty much do their job. Both experienced AFA riders and perform at the top of the team averages in the NL. With the format change 4 of the reserves 8 heats are with the No'3 & No'5 and we know Lambert & Holder are excellent AFA racers, talented team riders, so there's always a chance Greaves & Bailey can pick up 5 points between then a meeting. The value of a strong reserve in this format will be lost with weak heatleaders. Â It's not at all a likely line-up but proof a quality side can be put together with 12+ average riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Terribly weak reserves. Could possibly see Bailey at seven with a much stronger six but those two together would be cannon fodder. Weak in 2 heats only, Reverting back to the old race format the reserves are not so important as the Fast tracks.... but just imagine how good the top end would be. Â Also once the team get their new averages come May , With the re-adjustment of the high rollers we could use them point to have better reserves. Hey- Presto!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 You might well get Holder but not with NKI - instead of!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Weak in 2 heats only, Reverting back to the old race format the reserves are not so important as the Fast tracks.... but just imagine how good the top end would be.  Also once the team get their new averages come May , With the re-adjustment of the high rollers we could use them point to have better reserves. Hey- Presto!! Agree two weak reserves is ok. If you use just over 4 points, deduct the 15% "inflation" in the team building figures, you need about 3.5 per meeting between them for them to have been an effective use of points. Call it 5 at home 2 away, and you are guaranteed 2 of those 7 points so long as you have a finisher in the reserve heat. I don't agree you'll have points to strengthen though, the only way the points limit can work is if either the points limit gets dropped or an average conversion is used throughout the season chris Louis has alluded to the latter, though imo the former makes far more sense. Equal to any No 1 we have had.  I don't think so.  Short memory Who has been better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Agree two weak reserves is ok. If you use just over 4 points, deduct the 15% "inflation" in the team building figures, you need about 3.5 per meeting between them for them to have been an effective use of points. Call it 5 at home 2 away, and you are guaranteed 2 of those 7 points so long as you have a finisher in the reserve heat. Â I don't agree you'll have points to strengthen though, the only way the points limit can work is if either the points limit gets dropped or an average conversion is used throughout the season chris Louis has alluded to the latter, though imo the former makes far more sense. Who has been better? Michael Lee and Tony Rickardsson maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) Terry Betts, Dave Jessup, Henka Gustafsson, Jason Crump, Nicki Pedersen? Edited November 12, 2016 by Gordon Bennett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Didn't mention Lee or Trick as Blupanther had already done so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Most of those better riders, but better domestically over a sustained period of time, im not sure. I dontbthink jessup was for example, or Betts. Young Mike lee I'd probably agree, though not his 2nd spell. NickI p was only number one for a season ( and arguably didnt surpass puk), Crump maybe but he was only for a couple of seasons. Puk has been number 1, and in the top handful of number 1s in the league, for 5 straight seasons. I think it's a valid opinion that he's as good a number 1 as you've had. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Most of those better riders, but better domestically over a sustained period of time, im not sure. I dontbthink jessup was for example, or Betts. Young Mike lee I'd probably agree, though not his 2nd spell. NickI p was only number one for a season ( and arguably didnt surpass puk), Crump maybe but he was only for a couple of seasons. Puk has been number 1, and in the top handful of number 1s in the league, for 5 straight seasons. I think it's a valid opinion that he's as good a number 1 as you've had. Agreed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Topinka,mostly in the PL though,even so it was as a no1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Most likely line-up  1. Danny King 9.572. Lewis Rose 6.123. Nikolas Porsing 6.994. Michael Palm Toft 6.985. Robert Lambert 8.926. Lewis Kerr 5.987. Kai Huckenbeck 5.1449.690.31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Most likely line-up  1. Danny King 9.57 2. Lewis Rose 6.12 3. Nikolas Porsing 6.99 4. Michael Palm Toft 6.98 5. Robert Lambert 8.92 6. Lewis Kerr 5.98 7. Kai Huckenbeck 5.14  49.69 0.31  Not bad but your 2,3,4 is weak. I would back J.Holder, Kurtz and Newman 9 times out of 10 to beat that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Most likely line-up  1. Danny King 9.57 2. Lewis Rose 6.12 3. Nikolas Porsing 6.99 4. Michael Palm Toft 6.98 5. Robert Lambert 8.92 6. Lewis Kerr 5.98 7. Kai Huckenbeck 5.14  49.69 0.31 surely king rose toft lambert kerr will all want to d-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Most likely line-up  1. Danny King 9.57 2. Lewis Rose 6.12 3. Nikolas Porsing 6.99 4. Michael Palm Toft 6.98 5. Robert Lambert 8.92 6. Lewis Kerr 5.98 7. Kai Huckenbeck 5.14  49.69 0.31 solid but I reckon you are better getting a genuine 3rd heat leader and downgrading one other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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