BluPanther Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 I can't see much wrong with the current Stars team. Looks as good as any other team apart from Wolves. And Belle Vue, Swindon and Poole... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 And Belle Vue, Swindon and Poole... Â We're definitely a better team than Swindon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 I can't see much wrong with the current Stars team. Looks as good as any other team apart from Wolves. We are as good as anyone on paper, but have been blighted by inconsistency and poor form. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 I'd been suggesting him as a signing for over a year... so yes definitely a(nother) missed opportunity Same with Zmarzlik before he ended up with B'ham but yet another chancepassed by  It seems no-one at Lynn takes any notice of up'n'coming riders from abroad.. I suppose the promising US riders in world cup will be ig nored too .... He wouldn't have fitted at the start of the season without going with 2x2 pointers at reserve. He would only have fitted now as a swap for lambert or batch, neither of whom he is likely to outperform.Plenty of people criticising stars management, but tbf I don't think there is a lot to criticise from a team building perspective. All very well throwing names out but they need to fit the team building limit. Some of the other criticisms may be totally valid. We are as good as anyone on paper, but have been blighted by inconsistency and poor form.If Holder had been scoring a dozen points each meeting as was expected that's about an 7 pt swing each meeting, and everyone would have been happy. We are as good as anyone on paper, but have been blighted by inconsistency and poor form.If Holder had been scoring a dozen points each meeting as was expected that's about an 7 pt swing each meeting, and everyone would have been happy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 If Holder had been scoring a dozen points each meeting as was expected that's about an 7 pt swing each meeting, and everyone would have been happy. Â I understand the points argument you say about Holder, But there are 7 men in the team and that argument s could be proportioned against them all. True I expected him to score more than he has, but I also expected Lambert, Batch , Porsing and Rose to do so as well. Coming here after spending most of his working life in Poole was always going to be difficult for him, especially saying he was never comfortable on our track.. I believe Holder has at last come to terms with the Lynn set-up and results will get better. Probably it would be better to wait until the end of the season, before picking Chris out as the main reason people aren't happy with Lynn's performances..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 We are as good as anyone on paper, but have been blighted by inconsistency and poor form. And therein lies the dissatisfaction of some fans. Standing on the terraces fans can only judge the Stars performances by what they see on track. What I have seen is well below par and not very interesting to watch. It's not moaning it's a valid comment after being a customer, just like any transaction, even though there is also some emotional attachment to the Stars having watched them for 50 years. Team building is based on the judgement of the management and it is valid to criticise what they offer fans in the team package. How else could it be? Winning is not that important to me but the manner of losing is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Â I understand the points argument you say about Holder, But there are 7 men in the team and that argument s could be proportioned against them all. True I expected him to score more than he has, but I also expected Lambert, Batch , Porsing and Rose to do so as well. Coming here after spending most of his working life in Poole was always going to be difficult for him, especially saying he was never comfortable on our track.. I believe Holder has at last come to terms with the Lynn set-up and results will get better. Probably it would be better to wait until the end of the season, before picking Chris out as the main reason people aren't happy with Lynn's performances..... Yes Holder isn't the only one to have struggled at times but dress it up how you like, his average drop and poor performances at number one are the main reason for our struggles. Generally speaking when he or a guest has scored proper points we have won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 They say form is temporary class is permanent. I cannot see Holder being as poor in he 2nd half of the season as he has been in the first half. The prize giving doesn't come until the end of the term, so I have faith that IF we make the play-offs that's the time you really need the Holders of this World to make their mark. It is only a short while ago Lynn fans on here were baying for the blood ( ok a bit OTT there of the both Kenny B and Rory S, Both their current average's speak volumes. Â Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for. You Never know Buster might have sorted out a track which will give the Lynn riders some kind of home advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Yes Holder isn't the only one to have struggled at times but dress it up how you like, his average drop and poor performances at number one are the main reason for our struggles. Generally speaking when he or a guest has scored proper points we have won. Totally agree with you there GB.Our struggles have mainly been with Holder not attaining his average.Which if we are all honest we expected him to be near the 9 mark. Looking back at the averages from last season and comparing them to this,only Holder has dropped his average,i haven't included Jorgensen or S.Lambert. Â 2016 average 2017 so far Holder 8.95 6.98 -1.97 Lambert 7.08 7.44 +0.36 Batchelor 5.26 7.94 +2.68 Rose 5.00 5.33 +0.33 Huckenbeck 3.67 5.93 +2.26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Â I understand the points argument you say about Holder, But there are 7 men in the team and that argument s could be proportioned against them all. True I expected him to score more than he has, but I also expected Lambert, Batch , Porsing and Rose to do so as well. Coming here after spending most of his working life in Poole was always going to be difficult for him, especially saying he was never comfortable on our track.. I believe Holder has at last come to terms with the Lynn set-up and results will get better. Probably it would be better to wait until the end of the season, before picking Chris out as the main reason people aren't happy with Lynn's performances..... Looking at Tellboy's averages I think its a tad harsh on Batch to be in your list.Must be one of the most inproved average wise in the league.Probably Bjerre and Rory are close and yes I was one who didn't want them back in 17 .If only.. Edited July 12, 2017 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Great win tonight for the Stars at Poole. Said before not much wrong with the Stars team. If they keep putting the effort in we could have a good go at the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Congratulations to the Stars on doing the "business" away from home but the Pirates did have big problems of their own with Klindt's injury and KK's form. The point is that it was an unexpected, splendid away win and I now want to see an emphatic win ( and better form at home ). Keep it up at the AFA please Stars! Give us "reasons to be cheerful" there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Congratulations to the Stars on doing the "business" away from home but the Pirates did have big problems of their own with Klindt's injury and KK's form. The point is that it was an unexpected, splendid away win and I now want to see an emphatic win ( and better form at home ). Keep it up at the AFA please Stars! Give us "reasons to be cheerful" there. 'better form at home' particularly for Robert - his gating continues to let the team down sometimes ..... ....as it did in ht15 at Poole also ... but that was the manager's fault ofc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 The one who let the team down tonight is the one who incited, persuaded or commanded the team to throw in the towel. So will the real villain please stand up? Is it a) Chris Holder Robert Lambert c) Dale Allit OR the Lyon / Chapman (K) promotional duo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 The one who let the team down tonight is the one who incited, persuaded or commanded the team to throw in the towel. So will the real villain please stand up? Is it a) Chris Holder Robert Lambert c) Dale Allit OR the Lyon / Chapman (K) promotional duo? Lambo had 2 wins at that stage,so doubt it was him.Holder had a very unusual first 2 rides.Manager etc would of called all the team out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Not looking for trouble but no matter how bad the following riders perform they deserve your respect and they are. Jorgensen, Huckenbeck, Rose and S. Lambert.  These 4 riders respected the fans tonight and remained professional unlike the Heat Leader trio.   Batchelor just walked out.  R. Lambert trying to punch a fan  C. Holder couldn't be bothered to go out in Heat 13. 100% correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Batchelor was withdrawn from meeting after he took a tumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Batchelor was withdrawn from meeting after he took a tumble. Hard to prove either way.A bit sus given the things that were going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Connor Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Holder must go. Gutted to say that but tonight was disgraceful. The star rider has to set an example. His example was so unacceptable. On a track that was challenging with the quickest times of the season. An attackers track. He no showed us. He's Been a 7 point rider. Nothing better. Our great number 1. Gutted. Â If the going gets tough just don't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 I thought when Buster took the chairmans job at the BSPA he would change speedway for the better. Well Kings Lynn speedway club is a bloody sight worse. Last night was a shambles. Where was Rob Lyon after Dale was taken ill? The big screen operator had to ake over the team managers job. After 50 years of supporting the Stars I have had enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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