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My ratings - Holder C- , Rose C+ , Porsing D, Batchelor B, Lambert B+, Huckenbeck B, Bailey D

Allit C- , Lyon C-

The Track Curator E

 

Without Lambert who is the only one who has done much at all from the back. the Stars would have lost even more fans. Others either have been unable to pass due to the track or their ability. They have rarely looked like seriously threatening the opposition in front of them ( in the way that Bjerre - to my amazement - did inside and out of Lambert last night ). Losing at home is not the problem for me but the manner of the defeat is!


Really pissed off of to read Newman has gone to Leicester. Do Kings Lynn even try to sign anyone? All we here from the club management is that there's no one available. Funny how other clubs seem to find riders. It seems the club have no ambition and don't care if the team wins or not.

 

That is what it seems to me too! Are we even in the queue for the riders that are available and whose averages might fit? Let's have something more than platitudes on the Stars website.

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Really pissed off of to read Newman has gone to Leicester. Do Kings Lynn even try to sign anyone? All we here from the club management is that there's no one available. Funny how other clubs seem to find riders. It seems the club have no ambition and don't care if the team wins or not.

 

Probably they have a budget and stick to it, which means other clubs who are willing to pay over the odds sign riders you think we should go for. Can't blame the riders for going for the best deal for them , can't blame the club for sticking to a budget but wouldn't it be nice to be told.

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Probably they have a budget and stick to it, which means other clubs who are willing to pay over the odds sign riders you think we should go for. Can't blame the riders for going for the best deal for them , can't blame the club for sticking to a budget but wouldn't it be nice to be told.

I agree there and I think you are right - a few years ago when we moved back into the top league I was chatting with Davey Watt and I asked him about coming back to Kings Lynn and he said they don't pay enough they pay on time he added - I agree I bet still the case - that said you can't fault Buster for not wanting to bankrupt the club by sticking to a budget as much as I want to see the club win .
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Now that BVuehave bizarrely dropped Sedgemen for Tungate, maybe we ought to bring him in forJorgensen (if the averages allow ofc.... ) who was probably only a temporary signing anyway?

Sedgemen certainly seemed to like the track last night anyway and could finally give us a solid team imo ;)

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My ratings for the season.

 

Holder C

Rose C+

Porsing D

Batchelor B+

Lambert C+

Huckenbeck A

Bailey D

 

Allit - C-

Track - E

With regards Busters ability to provide a decent racetrack, run The Stars competently or sort out UK speedway, I'd have to give him an F and an A.
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Really pissed off of to read Newman has gone to Leicester. Do Kings Lynn even try to sign anyone? All we here from the club management is that there's no one available. Funny how other clubs seem to find riders. It seems the club have no ambition and don't care if the team wins or not.

Can't have him at number seven so presumably you'd chuck out Rose? As he wouldn't be an improvement on any of the others.

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It all boils down to numbers in the end though doesn't it? Dale was saying in the PC that riders we were going to sign have had their averages slightly altered following the decisions made on Monday. It's frustrating for us but just think how he feels when he has riders all agreed and ready to sign .....

 

Last night was difficult against Belle Vue, we let them steal a march on us, it was sickening, but what a come back starting with the 8-1 in 11, which brought the crowd alive, followed by the huge 5-1 against Cookie in 13 but we needed that heat advantage in 14 which didn't happen, then bloody Kenneth 'I dunno what's up' Bjerre in heat 15, oh well, disappointing to say the least but onwards and upwards.

 

Looking forward to taking the minibus to Belle Vue next Wednesday :)

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Can't have him at number seven so presumably you'd chuck out Rose? As he wouldn't be an improvement on any of the others.

Just got a feeling that we might get Ayres as our no7,what do you reckon?Lambert has a 3pt average according to the BSPA averages and Ayres will have a 3pt average tomorrow.And he has conveniently now been replaced at Leicester.Enjoyed watching him when he was down with Leicester and a 6+2 from 3 rides weren't bad either.

Don't get how Jorgensen's average goes down by 1.22 tomorrow though.

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It all boils down to numbers in the end though doesn't it? Dale was saying in the PC that riders we were going to sign have had their averages slightly altered following the decisions made on Monday. It's frustrating for us but just think how he feels when he has riders all agreed and ready to sign .....

 

Last night was difficult against Belle Vue, we let them steal a march on us, it was sickening, but what a come back starting with the 8-1 in 11, which brought the crowd alive, followed by the huge 5-1 against Cookie in 13 but we needed that heat advantage in 14 which didn't happen, then bloody Kenneth 'I dunno what's up' Bjerre in heat 15, oh well, disappointing to say the least but onwards and upwards.

 

Looking forward to taking the minibus to Belle Vue next Wednesday :)

And you seriously believe that? Kings Lynn won't spend any money, tungate would have been a perfect replacement for porsing and fits in the points limit but the Lynn management aren't sharp or ruthless enough to do it.
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I have a feeling Ayres will replace Greaves at Wolves. The Stars will sign Greaves and tell us he is the only rider available. Problem is Greaves is rubbish.

They can't replace Greaves with Ayres as the averages don't fit.

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I have probably stuck up for Buster more than most and always gave him the benefit of any doubt. He has made no secret that him acquiring the Chairmanship of the BSPA has diminished his priority for Kings Lynn and now he is there through necessity rather than love. I appreciated it is his business and needs to be run on solid footing, but nobody is asking him to be foolishly spending good money after bad is not the way to go. However, in this business, the promoter has to speculate to accumulate if he is to succeed. Is it coincidental that the top teams of Wolves, Belle Vue and Poole have all made big changes in their quest to win, knowing a winning side is supported more than a losing one.

 

In these recent times we were in desperate need of changes. There were rider available but the Stars bosses thought differently. They would rather continue as they are, hoping the fans aren't that concerned. At least we now know we will not be challenging for honours, and whether we reach the play-off is irrelevant.

 

No doubt the fans will continue to drift away, they have had enough of these penny pinching ideas, but more than that, they are fed up being taken for a ride.

 

Such a sad story.........

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And you seriously believe that? Kings Lynn won't spend any money, tungate would have been a perfect replacement for porsing and fits in the points limit but the Lynn management aren't sharp or ruthless enough to do it.

Perhaps he was always promised to BV? I dunno nor do you?

Jesus, I'm going to have to stay off these Lynn threads from now on, never read such negative comments, it's getting me down and that takes a lot :(

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Perhaps he was always promised to BV? I dunno nor do you?

This is exactly it,we don't know who really is available.Just because they have been released by their clubs doesn't mean they become available to Lynn.They may as you say Trees have been promised a ride once averages etc change at certain clubs.Like the Sedgemen and Tungate swap.Tungate may have been told weeks ago once his average drops we want you at Belle Vue if you fancy it.

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I have probably stuck up for Buster more than most and always gave him the benefit of any doubt. He has made no secret that him acquiring the Chairmanship of the BSPA has diminished his priority for Kings Lynn and now he is there through necessity rather than love. I appreciated it is his business and needs to be run on solid footing, but nobody is asking him to be foolishly spending good money after bad is not the way to go. However, in this business, the promoter has to speculate to accumulate if he is to succeed.

 

 

I don't think the vast majority of complaints would need money to sort. From reading on here and my own thoughts the most complaints would be solved by ;-

 

1 Start on time Free

2 No long tractor grades unless track dangerous Free

3 If long grading necessary no (or short) interval Minimal loss of income in bars etc*

4 Keep fans informed Should cost no or little more than at present

 

* any loss of revenue would be made up by less fans deserting the sport

 

Apart from the lack of actual racing which is also in his hands via providing a good racing surface the above seems to cover the majority of complaints. It can be sorted with minimal cost and would probably pay dividends if meetings finished at a reasonable time as parents would feel confident enough to bring their kids on a school night.

 

We have an almost absentee promoter in Rob Lyon who I know is laid back but is past horizontal at present, someone NEEDS to show the club cares. It shouldn't just be left to Dale Allit and Scott Campos to show a presence on twitter. The clue is in the name PROMOTER.

 

I agree about replacing under performing riders but as I said earlier Lynn probably have a budget and some riders will not ride for the money on offer even tho Lynn are renowned for paying on time.

 

I honestly cannot see any will or intention to change, when was the last time we saw a Buster rant tho it might be difficult for him to rant against himself :P

 

Maybe passion has been banned by Adrian Flux/Norfolk/ Arena as non politically correct in which case bring back Saddlebow Road.

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By the response I'm getting on Twitter it seems people are happy with what they're being served and see no wrong so it's confirmed for me 2017 IS my last season of watching the Stars.

well I and many more are far from happy so your not alone .

I can't imagine any body who was there last night are happy with the racing. Never mind the result the racing was rubbish. If people can't see anything wrong with the team and club they should open there eyes and wake up.

top post I totally agree I hope Trees reads this
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