Steve0 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Still not converted on the fairness of the 1.4 loading of EL riders yet. Yes I understand the logic and the reason why it had to be done, but don't necessarily agree with it. From my viewpoint there are an awful lot of riders who raced in both leagues and the comparable CMA's are so variable. Some riders performed better in the EL and some in the PL, but it is the PL scores that are being used for team building purposes. Obviously those riders with better performances in the EL are a better acquisition than those who performed better in the PL On the face of it teams using riders with PL scores will have a better chance of retaining their scores than those teams with EL riders and their loaded averages. Sure there will be a slight drop due to the stiffer competition, but nothing like the 1.4 % that some have been loaded with. I appreciate this was for team building only and yes, the first set of figures will be interesting reading to see the effects of what is expected to happen. On the face of it there are an abundance of riders within the 6-7pt category the this could be the area where the biggest changes will come from. KL have selected 4 riders with this loaded CMA's, I don't know how that compares with other clubs. I cant imagine there will be teams with any more than that. When I look at each teams strengths, in comparison to others, I don't think about their averages, just my opinion and perception of each rider / team.... and this is what is most intriguing in that there are many teams comparable with the others in the league and that has to be good for the sport.... 1.4 is a multiplier - not a percentage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 1.4 is a multiplier - not a percentage. Sorry for the misprint, I was aware of that, it didn't show up the way I wanted it to. Have since altered it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Is press and practice still on tonight ? Just seen that it is the juniors today Edited March 22, 2017 by lynnboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Is press and practice still on tonight ? Just seen that it is the juniors today it was Young Stars this afternoon, but no track action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 it was Young Stars this afternoon, but no track action Any news on the replacement number 1 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Dump Holder sign Danny King and with the points available sign a much stronger no7IN place In place of Holder & Bailey they could fit on King & Wilkinson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Any news on the replacement number 1 ? 1 Josh Bailey 2 Lewis Whitmore 3 Ryan Kinsley 4 Scott Campos 5 Danny Phillips 6 Connor Locke 7 Taylor Hampshire not sure if Scott has plans to continue riding, but for now he is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 In place of Holder & Bailey they could fit on King & Wilkinson! king and bates would be better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scrutton Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Many of members of the forum seem to seeking to replace Holder is his signing in doubt??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Many of members of the forum seem to seeking to replace Holder is his signing in doubt??? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Many of members of the forum seem to seeking to replace Holder is his signing in doubt??? Probably because the British Champion is without a team place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 And because of the Polish nonsense Holder is tied up in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Not wanting to rubbish King, but his high average grades him as a top heat leader. In Holder we have a genuine No1, and I think that is important. When the chips are down and we need someone to step up to that plate, Chris Holder is probably the best in the league right now. But going back to King, he should be a prize coup for any team, and I have no doubt come the first set of new figures, he will be have a choice from clubs who are able to fit him in.,.,., 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) I certainly don't support the bribery of the Poles but I do think it's pretty mean for some of us to be discussing the sacking of Holder before a wheel has turned .... Edited March 23, 2017 by Trees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 I certainly don't support the bribery of the Poles but I do think it's pretty mean for some of us to be discussing the sacking of Holder before a wheel has turned .... I will remind you of that when he misses meetings for Lynn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_O Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Not wanting to rubbish King, but his high average grades him as a top heat leader. In Holder we have a genuine No1, and I think that is important. When the chips are down and we need someone to step up to that plate, Chris Holder is probably the best in the league right now. But going back to King, he should be a prize coup for any team, and I have no doubt come the first set of new figures, he will be have a choice from clubs who are able to fit him in.,.,., Don't think anyone is trying to say King can be a direct replacement for Holder but IMO King and Bates for Holder and Bailey would be much better. Whereas Holder will get 13/14 (5 rides) per match, Bailey will only get 1 or 2. With King you will get 10/11(5 rides) but with Bates at reserve you could get 6-10pts each meeting. Plus you would have 2 good reserves all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scrutton Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Has anyone worked out if King & Bates will be available for all Meetings as they are both with lower division teams who may have first choice when it comes to who they can ride for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) Good point as I know Ipswich have first pick on King, but I don't know about Bates. Even so if I was a Kings Lynn fan I would still choose Danny over Chris Holder because of the Polish issues. Edited March 23, 2017 by Gemini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Good point as I know Ipswich have first pick on King, but I don't know about Bates. Even so if I was a Kings Lynn fan I would still choose Danny over Chris Holder because of the Polish issues. Surely if Holder ends up missing meetings is no different to King missing meetings... whether it's for Ipswich or whoever. Bates' Championship side will get priority on his services once the season has begun if he doesn't have a Premiership side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Good point as I know Ipswich have first pick on King, but I don't know about Bates. Even so if I was a Kings Lynn fan I would still choose Danny over Chris Holder because of the Polish issues. I believe Bates is a Sheffield asset so it's the Championship that has priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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