gazz 50s Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 great performance today our four riders gave it everything and more .But that still does not make it right what Ged and holder did now our club my face the consequences. Hope it was worth it Ged. Also what was the paper with jack holders name on it held up by Ged supposed to mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket007 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Jeremy Corbyn Fan, on 05 Aug 2017 - 9:20 PM, said: Read between the lines of the statement. "Ourselves, Torun and Jack have come to an agreement that suits us all. Torun did initially ask us to release Jack for the rest of 2017, but the rider himself refused that. "I fully understand that some of our supporters may be disappointed that we are without Jack tomorrow in the Fours, but I ask them all to understand that the deal we've done is beneficial to all parties. I presume the Peterborough fans will benefit by having free admission to all remaining home meetings, as the promoter has already been paid a substantial sum. Also Ged has given up on the rest of the season, so should all the supporters. It will be interesting to see exactly what the BSPA do, as the rules clearly state that Holder has to have a 28 day ban. Peterborough should also be charged with contempt of the sport. If Holder is banned and it affects Poole, then tough. I can't believe they would not have been involved in any discussions regarding what Holder was going to do, and probably got some of the money being handed out. This sport is dying a slow death with more and more supporters giving up, and less new ones coming along. Something drastic has to happen to reinvigorate it, but who or what can do anything to turn it around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 I presume the Peterborough fans will benefit by having free admission to all remaining home meetings, as the promoter has already been paid a substantial sum. Also Ged has given up on the rest of the season, so should all the supporters. It will be interesting to see exactly what the BSPA do, as the rules clearly state that Holder has to have a 28 day ban. Peterborough should also be charged with contempt of the sport. If Holder is banned and it affects Poole, then tough. I can't believe they would not have been involved in any discussions regarding what Holder was going to do, and probably got some of the money being handed out. This sport is dying a slow death with more and more supporters giving up, and less new ones coming along. Something drastic has to happen to reinvigorate it, but who or what can do anything to turn it around. Over 3,000 people were at the Showground today and they saw a cracking event. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket007 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Jeremy Corbyn Fan, on 06 Aug 2017 - 10:37 PM, said: Over 3,000 people were at the Showground today and they saw a cracking event. That was for an event that was well publicised and people knew in advance so had made travel arrangements. The Holder incident was only announced about 24 hours before, so people probably couldn't cancel. My point was if the promoter has already said the season is over, then why should fans still bother to go as the club has already got the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 ged said it was2,000 and no tax to pay ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) ged said it was2,000 and no tax to pay ! Difference between tickets sold and people there. Edited August 6, 2017 by Jeremy Corbyn Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.32942 'and we have evidence of the true reason' Buster '30 pieces of silver' Chapman having a go at a promoter who took an 'incentive' (allegedly). That is rich. At least Ged isn't helping in an attempt to shut two clubs down. I don't agree with what Ged has done but Chapman is the last person on Earth who can criticise him for it. Edited August 6, 2017 by Vincent Blackshadow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foamfence Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 'and we have evidence of the true reason' Buster '30 pieces of silver' Chapman having a go at a promoter who took an 'incentive' (allegedly). That is rich. At least Ged isn't helping in an attempt to shut two clubs down. I don't agree with what Ged has done but Chapman is the last person on Earth who can criticise him for it. Chapman HAS to criticise him, he's the boss (makes you wonder how bad the rest are though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Chapman HAS to criticise him, he's the boss (makes you wonder how bad the rest are though). Then maybe he isn't the right person to be the boss, but that's for another thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 I presume the Peterborough fans will benefit by having free admission to all remaining home meetings, as the promoter has already been paid a substantial sum. Also Ged has given up on the rest of the season, so should all the supporters. It will be interesting to see exactly what the BSPA do, as the rules clearly state that Holder has to have a 28 day ban. Peterborough should also be charged with contempt of the sport. If Holder is banned and it affects Poole, then tough. I can't believe they would not have been involved in any discussions regarding what Holder was going to do, and probably got some of the money being handed out. This sport is dying a slow death with more and more supporters giving up, and less new ones coming along. Something drastic has to happen to reinvigorate it, but who or what can do anything to turn it around. Sincerely , I do not believe that anyone or anything can turn the sport around. Lots of positive ideas have been put forward by a number of people and few of them , if any, have been taken up by the BSPA. The ideas that they have brought in to "save the sport" or "turn it around" have flopped. e.g. What difference did re-naming the leagues make? Did we get a major sponsor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Sincerely , I do not believe that anyone or anything can turn the sport around. Lots of positive ideas have been put forward by a number of people and few of them , if any, have been taken up by the BSPA. The ideas that they have brought in to "save the sport" or "turn it around" have flopped. e.g. What difference did re-naming the leagues make? Did we get a major sponsor? They blew it to stop the rot in 2010, which is ironic considering who's kicking off now and who's involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Then maybe he isn't the right person to be the boss, but that's for another thread. It probably is and I doubt there'd be a queue of applicants if he stood down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Sincerely , I do not believe that anyone or anything can turn the sport around. Lots of positive ideas have been put forward by a number of people and few of them , if any, have been taken up by the BSPA. The ideas that they have brought in to "save the sport" or "turn it around" have flopped. e.g. What difference did re-naming the leagues make? Did we get a major sponsor? Speedway in its current form will have to collapse for the vested interests of the current crop of promoters to realise that finally the game is up. Only then will a sports entrepreneur look at taking on speedway and making a go of it, a bit like ice hockey did in 2010. A new owner/entrepreneur would have to be just that, where clubs apply to be in its league and are governed by its management rules not just now where its an administration where every man and his dog has their fingers in the pie and can exert influence. Having one point of management makes it much easier to attract a league sponsor. We also need to lose the term 'promoter', a grossly outdated term that largely means nothing other than team owner. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 a team owner that does not actually own any of his team ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 A question to you Jenga what would Cook have done if he was in the same position as Holder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.32942 Mr Chapman is not amused. instead of whining on about peterborough releasing jack holder, mr chapman and the bspa should concentrate on the shambles that is the doubling up and guest rule especially at the leicester - k.lynn meeting where we had 4 or five guests.the meeting made a mockery of the sport and something surely has to be done close season or this sport of ours is likely to be out on its arse big style!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 instead of whining on about peterborough releasing jack holder, mr chapman and the bspa should concentrate on the shambles that is the doubling up and guest rule especially at the leicester - k.lynn meeting where we had 4 or five guests.the meeting made a mockery of the sport and something surely has to be done close season or this sport of ours is likely to be out on its arse big style!!! Yes they should but that doesn't mean that they should ignore the Holder situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 A question to you Jenga what would Cook have done if he was in the same position as Holder In a word, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 A question to you Jenga what would Cook have done if he was in the same position as Holder who knows , ask him yourself . btw .. i dont think draig like the doggy position . so i am told ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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