BluPanther Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Sack him now, no more Visa's for Aussies just using and abusing the UK for a visa. Enough is enough... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Maybe this meeting along with other BSPA events should be put in riders contracts at the start of the season, although some contracts to riders these days aren`t worth the paper they are written on. I thought it was... well used to be in the past. Miss a bspa meeting and 28 day ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 He's tweeted that he's chose to ride in Poland tomorrow and not the fours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Sack the tw"t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Holder has further tweeted that Boro were all for him riding in Poland. Hmmm, not quite the story I've heard, borne out by the Polish press reporting that it took the best part of a week to free him from his British contract. I'm sure the sweetner from Torun has helped! If they get it that is. Polish teams aren't always the best at paying up! Edited August 5, 2017 by CB252 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 His choice.... so it's a 28 day ban then for withholding services. But do his team's get rr or nl 6 pointer? Should have just retired..... I'm sure the sweetner from Torun has helped! If they get it that is. Polish teams aren't always the best at paying up! Being offered and actually getting are 2 very different things.. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Sack the tw"t Sack the tw"tAgree,they are just taking British speedway for a ride .Britian first next season or get lost should be the rule. Edited August 5, 2017 by Fromafar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Has to be a 28 ban from ALL British Speedway Peterborough and Poole will get a full facility but that isnt the point Promoters need to take stand and not offer him a contract next year Edit - If Peterborough have agreed and taken a pay off as some are suggesting then I would say no facility for them either 😠 Edited August 5, 2017 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) His choice.... so it's a 28 day ban then for withholding services. But do his team's get rr or nl 6 pointer? Should have just retired..... Being offered and actually getting are 2 very different things.. ... They're going to claim he's gone with Panthers blessing. Should be no facility in my opinion. Utter mug Rathbone. All tweets now removed. Edited August 5, 2017 by CB252 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Didn't I read earlier in the season that Matt Ford wouldn't release him to ride in Poland?? If so, he's not going to get a ban if Poole can still use him is he?? (just saying!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Nearly all promoters are only in it for themselves and no one will stick together. Not one of them has a set of balls big enough to tell there riders to get stuffed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Jack won't get a ban if the Panthers don't use a facility. Panthers now have Poole by the balls. If Poole don't pay the Panthers a compensation figure. The Panthers will declare that Holder is withdrawing his services, Poole then won't be able to use him. Panthers will get two hefty payments, one from Torun and one from Poole. Brilliant business. Panthers statement. Torun have paid big for Holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Jack won't get a ban if the Panthers don't use a facility. Panthers now have Poole by the balls. If Poole don't pay the Panthers a compensation figure. The Panthers will declare that Holder is withdrawing his services, Poole then won't be able to use him. Panthers will get two hefty payments, one from Torun and one from Poole. Brilliant business. Total P#sh ,muppet brain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 PETERBOROUGH number one Jack Holder will miss the SGB Championship Fours tomorrow - with the blessing of club bosses.The Australian ace had been due to lead the 'T Balfe Construction' Panthers quartet in their challenge for honours at the East of England Arena, but he has instead been given permission to race for Torun in a vital Polish Ekstraliga fixture.Holder was initially allowed to race for the Polish side last Sunday when making a sparkling paid 16-point debut in a defeat at Leszno. Torun have turned to the 21 year-old to replace world champion Greg Hancock, who faces shoulder surgery.Peterborough bosses have since been involved in discussions with their Torun counterparts for several days with a decision which benefits all parties eventually being made late last night.Promoter Ged Rathbone said: "We have agreed with Torun that Jack can race for them tomorrow."We have to accept that we are simply a stepping stone in the career of a brilliant young rider."Jack has been a model professional from our very first phone call to him during the winter. He loves racing for Peterborough and he has already indicated that he wants to be back with us again next year."We feel as a club that after last night's result in which Sheffield won at Edinburgh, we will not now make the SGB Championship play-offs this season. Granted, it's still mathematically possible, but we feel it is a slim chance at most."Ourselves, Torun and Jack have come to an agreement that suits us all. Torun did initially ask us to release Jack for the rest of 2017, but the rider himself refused that."Depending on Torun's results, we will continue to assess the situation going forward. We may be prepared to allow him to race for them on two further Sundays when we ride at Newcastle and Scunthorpe."I fully understand that some of our supporters may be disappointed that we are without Jack tomorrow in the Fours, but I ask them all to understand that the deal we've done is beneficial to all parties."I'm not going to expand on that, but I urge them to trust my judgement as they've always done since I stepped in to keep speedway going in Peterborough in late 2014."Bradley Wilson-Dean will now step into the Peterborough team for the SGB Championship Fours along with Chris Harris, Paul Starke and captain Ulrich Ostergaard. Simon Lambert now acts as their reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Good bit of business from P'Boro as long as they actually get the money, Jack Holder wanting to return to P'Boro bit strange for next year as he will be ready for Torun on Sundays? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Good bit of business from P'Boro as long as they actually get the money, Jack Holder wanting to return to P'Boro bit strange for next year as he will be ready for Torun on Sundays? We would obviously change the race night. Jack Holder is box office and is a fans favourite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 PETERBOROUGH number one Jack Holder will miss the SGB Championship Fours tomorrow - with the blessing of club bosses. The Australian ace had been due to lead the 'T Balfe Construction' Panthers quartet in their challenge for honours at the East of England Arena, but he has instead been given permission to race for Torun in a vital Polish Ekstraliga fixture. Holder was initially allowed to race for the Polish side last Sunday when making a sparkling paid 16-point debut in a defeat at Leszno. Torun have turned to the 21 year-old to replace world champion Greg Hancock, who faces shoulder surgery. Peterborough bosses have since been involved in discussions with their Torun counterparts for several days with a decision which benefits all parties eventually being made late last night. Promoter Ged Rathbone said: "We have agreed with Torun that Jack can race for them tomorrow. "We have to accept that we are simply a stepping stone in the career of a brilliant young rider. "Jack has been a model professional from our very first phone call to him during the winter. He loves racing for Peterborough and he has already indicated that he wants to be back with us again next year. "We feel as a club that after last night's result in which Sheffield won at Edinburgh, we will not now make the SGB Championship play-offs this season. Granted, it's still mathematically possible, but we feel it is a slim chance at most. "Ourselves, Torun and Jack have come to an agreement that suits us all. Torun did initially ask us to release Jack for the rest of 2017, but the rider himself refused that. "Depending on Torun's results, we will continue to assess the situation going forward. We may be prepared to allow him to race for them on two further Sundays when we ride at Newcastle and Scunthorpe. "I fully understand that some of our supporters may be disappointed that we are without Jack tomorrow in the Fours, but I ask them all to understand that the deal we've done is beneficial to all parties. "I'm not going to expand on that, but I urge them to trust my judgement as they've always done since I stepped in to keep speedway going in Peterborough in late 2014." Bradley Wilson-Dean will now step into the Peterborough team for the SGB Championship Fours along with Chris Harris, Paul Starke and captain Ulrich Ostergaard. Simon Lambert now acts as their reserve. S0d the fans then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 S0d the fans then? The fans want to see the club in a healthy financial position. Ged would have been stupid to have turned down the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 PETERBOROUGH number one Jack Holder will miss the SGB Championship Fours tomorrow - with the blessing of club bosses. The Australian ace had been due to lead the 'T Balfe Construction' Panthers quartet in their challenge for honours at the East of England Arena, but he has instead been given permission to race for Torun in a vital Polish Ekstraliga fixture. Holder was initially allowed to race for the Polish side last Sunday when making a sparkling paid 16-point debut in a defeat at Leszno. Torun have turned to the 21 year-old to replace world champion Greg Hancock, who faces shoulder surgery. Peterborough bosses have since been involved in discussions with their Torun counterparts for several days with a decision which benefits all parties eventually being made late last night. Promoter Ged Rathbone said: "We have agreed with Torun that Jack can race for them tomorrow. "We have to accept that we are simply a stepping stone in the career of a brilliant young rider. "Jack has been a model professional from our very first phone call to him during the winter. He loves racing for Peterborough and he has already indicated that he wants to be back with us again next year. "We feel as a club that after last night's result in which Sheffield won at Edinburgh, we will not now make the SGB Championship play-offs this season. Granted, it's still mathematically possible, but we feel it is a slim chance at most. "Ourselves, Torun and Jack have come to an agreement that suits us all. Torun did initially ask us to release Jack for the rest of 2017, but the rider himself refused that. "Depending on Torun's results, we will continue to assess the situation going forward. We may be prepared to allow him to race for them on two further Sundays when we ride at Newcastle and Scunthorpe. "I fully understand that some of our supporters may be disappointed that we are without Jack tomorrow in the Fours, but I ask them all to understand that the deal we've done is beneficial to all parties. "I'm not going to expand on that, but I urge them to trust my judgement as they've always done since I stepped in to keep speedway going in Peterborough in late 2014." Bradley Wilson-Dean will now step into the Peterborough team for the SGB Championship Fours along with Chris Harris, Paul Starke and captain Ulrich Ostergaard. Simon Lambert now acts as their reserve. His judgement is why the sport is in the mess that it is in,no consideration for British fans who pay the money.Poor. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Holder Saying all the right things to get a gb place next year. No gb place.. no visa... no Poland 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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