Ovalman Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Cruel luck for the Swindon skipper, just hope he's ok, well done Greg will surely be crowned world champ again in Melbourne. If Doyley can't win it then glad Greg will. Bit of an ante-climax though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 So luck never comes into staying fit for the whole season then? I would say that Greg still being fit to ride has more to do with him realising that there are 4 laps in a race and having real skill and racecraft .rather riding like a maniac and risking himself and everyone else in the process .. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Real shame for Doyle, been great to see him having such a good year and would have been a deserving world champion, now it looks like he may not even finish in the top 3. Hopefully he recovers well and comes back stronger next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Sure, Hancock could be deemed as lucky due to Doyle's injury. Had the accident been Doyle's fault then maybe less so, but he was taken out by a rider who is becoming such a liability that even his Wolves team mates don't trust him anymore. However, someone had to be in the position to benefit from that luck, and that person is Hancock who, don't forget, was still very much in contention for the title anyway. Had Tai or Chris Holder done better or Zmarzlik had a bit more experience then they, too, would now be in contention too. It's true that this year has become a bit of an anti climax, and of the 3 riders that were in contention Hancock was my least favourite, but you can't knock him for being the one who is now in prime position to benefit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 I think you always need a bit of luck as well as skill to be a champion. Call it what you like fate or luck. Last week Hancock had what looked at the time like a nasty crash in the polish play offs, but luck was on his side and he walked away unscathed. Last night he crashed in the semi final, but the red lights came on just before he crashed. So he was lucky again, but they do say you make your own luck. As for people saying Jason Doyle has plenty of time to win it. How do we know that. This could be the nearest he ever gets to winning the title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 How does this tr3 get so mamy bites ..its clearly a made up poster trying to say things he knows people are going to bite on .i expect its a kks type of person ..i bet he cracks up when the fish bite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 I think you always need a bit of luck as well as skill to be a champion. Call it what you like fate or luck. Last week Hancock had what looked at the time like a nasty crash in the polish play offs, but luck was on his side and he walked away unscathed. Last night he crashed in the semi final, but the red lights came on just before he crashed. So he was lucky again, but they do say you make your own luck. As for people saying Jason Doyle has plenty of time to win it. How do we know that. This could be the nearest he ever gets to winning the title. Doesn't mean he hasn't got time though, it's all down to whether or not he can recapture the form he's shown this year. I do feel for the lad, so close and it's just snatched away like that. As has been pointed out though, it's happened before and it will happen again at some point. Definitely left a hole where there was a thrilling finale in the offing, I'm sure there will be plenty in Europe that will not bother setting their alarms for the Melbourne GP live.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 And if you don't believe me, listen to the moment Iversson goes past Hancock, his Woooo....ooo was one of dissapontment that his man had been passed. Don't beleive, play it back! And telling Kelvin off in the race where we had loads of passing and Hancock was going backwards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Crash: Freddie Lindgrens fault, Bomber went into/under the aifence on turn 3, pretty much at the same pace/angle as Doyle, Bomber had a bit of good luck, Doyle didn't.. Disgraceful decision to exclude Bomber, Lindgren should have been thrown out the race... A 2 part airfence might be a way forward, when bikes impact the fence, the initial contact always seems around midway up, and the fence buckles with the top and bottom folding over leaving the base of whatever is behind exposed... If it was a 2 part fence, maybe in a third at the bottom and 2 thirds above, the bottom third would pretty much be un-deformed by bike impacts and still be there for the rider/s to hit... Pity you can't easily do image posting, this would 've easier to understand.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 A 2 part airfence might be a way forward, when bikes impact the fence, the initial contact always seems around midway up, and the fence buckles with the top and bottom folding over leaving the base of whatever is behind exposed... If it was a 2 part fence, maybe in a third at the bottom and 2 thirds above, the bottom third would pretty much be un-deformed by bike impacts and still be there for the rider/s to hit... Pity you can't easily do image posting, this would 've easier to understand.... Sounds in theory a good idea.Quite like the inflatable lounger for the water.They have a main body and a head rest/pillow that are inflated seperately,but still joined together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 It's tough luck on Doyle he was in with a great chance of lifting the title but I do feel he was riding on the edge in every race ( in no way was he to blame for the crash last night ) and sometimes the wheels just fall off sadly .Hancock love or hate him is the "real deal " he lifts his game when he has to and rides within himself the rest of the time , he is the bench mark for the rest plus shows no signs of fading anytime soon . Many may dislike him for his smooth professional approach to the sport and call him boring for making it look so easy rather than scraping the air fence and having to ride at 110% all the time "Oh "and did I mention he's 46yrs old !!!! :D 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) Gutted for Doyle, but fate has determined it's not his year, can he come back and win it or be like Leigh Adams, Mr nearly man, never been a Hancock fan, Hamill was a favourite, he was a racer, Greg is not an exiting rider,just consistent and the best gater, shame now that Melbourne will be an anti climax. Edited October 2, 2016 by noggin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Yet again the Speedway World Champion won't be the best rider in the world but simply just lucky. So sad. You are right saying that...as was the case with Jerzy Szczakiel in 1973. Was he the best, or just lucky? SGP is not " one night thing ", so the luck problem is much more reduced, although still existing. Your Zielona Gora rider - Jason Doyle was unlucky to get injured one round before GP conclusion, but that how it goes. You are either lucky, or not. Picnics don't get it. Picnics ? what are you talking about...you are on the English speaking forum...not in PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 He didn't qualify for next year and I meant he didn't qualify or even deserved a wild card for 2017. Bollocks. You say that if Hancock will win SGP its because he's best in the world this year? No. He wins it because of being lucky that Bomber injured Doyle. Doyle was 1st in the table before this event and won 4 SGP events this year. He is the best in the world 2016. You talk some sh*te.. Who is to say Doyle would of only got 8 points each at Torun and Melbourne and Hancock had won both meetings.. That would make Hancock world champion and the best rider in the world in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Picnics ? what are you talking about... Think he is talking about sputniks.....well the guy is on another planet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j_f5KH43U4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scunny2012 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) Congratulations to Niels Kristian Iversen on the win, unfortunate for Jason Doyle but that's speedway, unless Hancock doesn't turn up RoboGreg is World Champion again,seems that now Nicki Pedersen is out injured Mr Lindgren has taken over as the rider to keep out of the way of, rather than call him Fast Freddie I think Fencin Freddie would be more apt, Edited October 3, 2016 by Scunny2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 You are right saying that...as was the case with Jerzy Szczakiel in 1973. Was he the best, or just lucky? SGP is not " one night thing ", so the luck problem is much more reduced, although still existing. Your Zielona Gora rider - Jason Doyle was unlucky to get injured one round before GP conclusion, but that how it goes. You are either lucky, or not. Picnics ? what are you talking about...you are on the English speaking forum...not in PL. Jerzy was a top man. Deserved to be World Champion. Ivan said he won it fair and square and many will tell you there is no greater authority than Ivan, when it comes to world championships and the winning of!!! Jerzy's problem was he won it but it was supposed to be Zenon who was expected to win it but he didn't, Jerzy did. As a result, Jerzy was expected to turn into the 'greatest rider that ever lived' to justify his status as a World Champion. No other rider was expected to turn into the greatest rider that ever lived to justify their status as World Champion, but Jerzy was because he shouldn't have won it in the first place. It's all a bit like voting for Brexit and justifying having done so, when you think about it, ain't ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 This is proberly a bit harsh but when Doyle was at the back coming down the back straight I actually thought just take your time, a race is 4 laps. He would have got a point easy enough. As I say bit harsh I suppose. Gutted for him though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 And another thing Tai seems to have lost his edge, maybe retiring from speedway to take up another challenge next year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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