Fromafar Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Thought you were bottom last year my apologies point still remains though will crowds drop awayIf I was nearer I would still go to Scunthorpe every week the racing is brilliant, win or lose you will be entertained. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubichair Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Entertainment is what speedway is all about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Entertainment is what speedway is all about! Then why in general do crowds drop when a team starts to lose at home? Im not looking for a fight just asking as i know Scunthorpe have struggled with crowd levels before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) The racing is brilliant at Scunthorpe and I, and other neutrals, go for the fantastic racing. But at the end of the day the majority of fans that turn up every week will be Scunthorpe supporters and they want their team to win. Sport is about entertainment but also supporters want to watch a successful team, so Scunthorpe may have a great track but they can't solely rely on that, which has reflected in attendances in the last couple of seasons. Edited December 12, 2016 by Islander15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 It is not just the entertainment at the Speedway but the entertainment at the football ground, & they are winning & at the top of the table, that keeps attendances low. The Steelworks, on its own, once employed over 15,000 people & the town & districts a population over 80,000. It is the towns mentality that we all have different interests & work different shift patterns that can lead to week ends being family/chill out time. There is, also, the well known fact that speedway is not well known about in the town & the EWR is on the outskirts & not easily accessible if you have no mode of transport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Then why in general do crowds drop when a team starts to lose at home? Im not looking for a fight just asking as i know Scunthorpe have struggled with crowd levels before  No denying that crowds have dropped over the past five years or so.. but that's not something unique to Scunthorpe. With the exception of a few clubs, I would suggest crowd levels up and down the country have generally declined, regardless of how successful a team is.  Scunthorpe's crowd has declined to what I would now consider its hard core fan base.. I can't honestly see it dropping any lower.. If it does I guess the promotion will need to rethink. Hopefully with some positive promotion and continued infrastructure improvements we can encourage more to attend. After all, we are blessed with an excellent product and one, if not the best racetrack in the country.  I assume income from our Amateur Meetings, Training Sessions, Mini Track Sessions, Track Hire, Bar takings, Café Takings etc help subsidise the running of league speedway at Scunny... That's something most tracks don't have when it comes to balancing books.  On a slight down point, which I hope can be viewed as constructive criticism .. is the seating arrangements at the EWR. What seating we have is sparse and difficult to navigate, the steps are a tad steep and rickety, for anyone not to good on their feet it's like an assault course. A member of my family used to sit there with friends, sadly she no longer attends because of these difficulties. It would be nice to have the access steps lowered/improved and seating actually completed, this would stop people standing and obstructing the views of those that choose to sit. A roof over it would be nice but I guess that would be too much to ask in this financial climate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016  No denying that crowds have dropped over the past five years or so.. but that's not something unique to Scunthorpe. With the exception of a few clubs, I would suggest crowd levels up and down the country have generally declined, regardless of how successful a team is.  Scunthorpe's crowd has declined to what I would now consider its hard core fan base.. I can't honestly see it dropping any lower.. If it does I guess the promotion will need to rethink. Hopefully with some positive promotion and continued infrastructure improvements we can encourage more to attend. After all, we are blessed with an excellent product and one, if not the best racetrack in the country.  I assume income from our Amateur Meetings, Training Sessions, Mini Track Sessions, Track Hire, Bar takings, Café Takings etc help subsidise the running of league speedway at Scunny... That's something most tracks don't have when it comes to balancing books.  On a slight down point, which I hope can be viewed as constructive criticism .. is the seating arrangements at the EWR. What seating we have is sparse and difficult to navigate, the steps are a tad steep and rickety, for anyone not to good on their feet it's like an assault course. A member of my family used to sit there with friends, sadly she no longer attends because of these difficulties. It would be nice to have the access steps lowered/improved and seating actually completed, this would stop people standing and obstructing the views of those that choose to sit. A roof over it would be nice but I guess that would be too much to ask in this financial climate. Said it before; that when Glandford Park bites the dust we need to be in there nabbing some fixtures and fittings; and I don't reckon it would cost the earth to cover the seating area in front of the start gate either- maybe linking the existing stands to the right and left ?.  If we covered that; pretty much the whole of the home straight would have covered accommodation; then we have our new hospitality cabins on turns one-two and the EWR is evolving into a tidy little stadium. Today; many folks want the option to sit if they feel like doing so; personally I am happy standing but that extra bit of comfort; especially for those who might be less nimble these days does not go amiss. We will all be there one day remember and hopefully so will Scunthorpe Speedway ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romans lovechild Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 from when the EWR first opened its gates the stadium has seen gradual improvement over the years, which compared to some stadiums have become rundown, i would say the stadium in its present guise is enough for the crowd levels they get, maybe a cover over the seats and cover over the first bend terracing would improve things, but these do not come cheap,as mentioned before maybe beg, steal, or borrow from glanford park when it finally becomes redundant, as for watching a winning side compared to being entertained,it takes me 12 miles to get to owlerton,and about 40 to get to the EWR, and last season i did the same number of meetings at both tracks, even though my allegiance falls on the side of the tigers, the EWR serves up superb action with so many racing lines and is always well prepared, so given my choice i would prefer to see entertainment by an unsuccessful side than a gate and go top of the table side. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 The racing is fabulous at Scunthorpe and the supporters are very fortunate to have a great track like that on their doorstep. I understand at the end of the day it's still a competition and you want to see your team win, but IMO I'd feel like I've won even if the team lost when the EWR serves up great racing which it does far more often than not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scunny2012 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 There's only one person been a keyboard warrior and making threats on here and it's not me. Plus i'd rather go to Owlerton and watch a proper team which actually has chances of been successful. Â As an old git and an ex Sheffield supporter of 28 years from the good old days and even though they have on paper a reasonable team like many other teams announced I would still never go to Owlerton to watch gate and go, if this was my only choice it would be bye bye speedway. so whether Scunny lose every match i'll be there just like the 70's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Scunthorpe is a super track and regularly gives high quality entertainment. Â I only miss Scunthorpe when the forecast is not good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 so who will be the track of the year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 so who will be the track of the year ? Well it won't be Southern Rail 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Slight change of subject; but how many of you think that the new Leagues have missed a trick ?. Â Is it me or does the Premiership look pretty much the same standard as the Championship ?. If the Scorpions rode at Somerset; I might expect we could lose it; but not by mile. Reckon we could definitely give some of the Prem teams a match at Scunny for sure. Â I suppose we were never going to get a full blown amalgamation this season; but it is certainly heading that way; as the Elite has been watered down. Â So for me a cross league KO Cup competition would have worked and added a bit more variety to the fixture list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 A LOT of new riders would need to be found for amalgamation. Look at how many riders will be doubling up next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Slight change of subject; but how many of you think that the new Leagues have missed a trick ?. Â Is it me or does the Premiership look pretty much the same standard as the Championship ?. If the Scorpions rode at Somerset; I might expect we could lose it; but not by mile. Reckon we could definitely give some of the Prem teams a match at Scunny for sure. Â I suppose we were never going to get a full blown amalgamation this season; but it is certainly heading that way; as the Elite has been watered down. Â So for me a cross league KO Cup competition would have worked and added a bit more variety to the fixture list. I believe a cross league cup is in the pipeline (next year), I believe it was mentioned at the recent Diamonds talk-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I guess it could work but i reckon questions would be asked on who rides for who/.? a bit like the relegation promotion idea, and would there be a handicap system as cl is built to 40 and pl to 50? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Slight change of subject; but how many of you think that the new Leagues have missed a trick ?. Â Is it me or does the Premiership look pretty much the same standard as the Championship ?. If the Scorpions rode at Somerset; I might expect we could lose it; but not by mile. Reckon we could definitely give some of the Prem teams a match at Scunny for sure. Â I suppose we were never going to get a full blown amalgamation this season; but it is certainly heading that way; as the Elite has been watered down. Â So for me a cross league KO Cup competition would have worked and added a bit more variety to the fixture list. Sorry but dont agree at all. Somerset currently look the weakest premiership but would fancy them to comfortably beat evert CL team home and away.. Man for man you would have every Somerset rider over every Scunthorpe rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Shoe Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Â Â Is it me or does the Premiership look pretty much the same standard as the Championship ? Just the same as 2016 then although on saying that as a regular at both Scunthorpe and Leicester in 2016 it was hard sometimes at Leicester to convince myself that this was supposed to be the higher level. Edited December 19, 2016 by Hot Shoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Just wondered if someone from Scunny, could confirm, if in 2017, they intend to hold a match on Easter Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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