foreverblue Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Are you being serious? Max Fricke is a much better rider than Patrick so yes Belle Vue are weakened. Also having to use reserves to replace NichollsYes but Paddy got 14 last night as an away rider so not much different to Fricke. When was the last time Fricke got 14? They have to use a reserve but have you seen how Jacobs is going at Belle Vue lately, we have Tungate guesting who got 3 last night. Belle Vue are going to have to ride very poorly not to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 The league favourites Belle Vue have got the perfect guest in Hougaard who boosts their team strength somewhat. Hougaard is certainly better than Fricke around BV as anyone with an ounce of speedway knowledge can see. Â Just waiting for Palm Toft to come in now to replace Richie Worrall. What with Hougaard guesting very funny!! It really does seem this Gavan chap is determined to make a pillock of himself on every single Poole theead. Admire his determination to do it though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Worral is in the Glasgow team just announced for Saturday at Workington so don't see why he wouldn't be riding on Monday (!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Yes but Paddy got 14 last night as an away rider so not much different to Fricke. When was the last time Fricke got 14? They have to use a reserve but have you seen how Jacobs is going at Belle Vue lately, we have Tungate guesting who got 3 last night. Belle Vue are going to have to ride very poorly not to win He scored 14 which is good but that was from 6 rides and one was a tactical ride which makes points more. So take away double points it would be 12 from 6 rides. Â Max scored 10 from 5 rides last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Richie is riding. Dont worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 No doubts belle vue are weakened without fricke and nicholls. Paddy is a good guest but Fricke is superb round belle vue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 R/R for Nicholls doesn't look like a huge loss to me, tbh. He's improved slightly at the NSS but only managed 4 the last time Poole visited. Jacobs and the Worrals will manage more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Kaspazak has mainly only missed meetings on the day of the SEC but has been great missing GP practice for the bees and riding the night before the SEC meetings. When he had been there he has been a joy to watch. Lots of double figures this year. Speaking of number 1s, what's happening with Freddie. Riding well in GP & challenger but yet only scoring 4,6,5 for Wolves in last few home meetings? Meanwhile Freddie hasn't missed any meetings for Wolves, make excuses if it makes you feel better. We are in the plays offs so I'm sure Freddie will raise his game when it matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace no.5 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 All the talk of BV being strengthened but let's not forget the only time Tungate rode our track he scored 15+2 from 6 rides... Poole definitely strengthened! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Missing our best rider in Max and the Captain Scott makes us considerably weaker. Â We had 7.50 to fill Max's spot but we've remained loyal to our assets and gone with Patrick on his low 6.30 average. That would normally put him a reserve for us using current green sheets. Having to use mainly reserves to cover Scott only increases the pressure. The final nail in our coffin is Mr Paid Seventeen Tungate, an astute horses for courses pick from Ford. Poole by 7, unfortunately. Â Just thought is Partrick in place of Max as his average is so low he could replace Scott and we could run R/R for Max with everyone taking a ride? Might save our bacon. Edited September 8, 2016 by ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 He scored 14 which is good but that was from 6 rides and one was a tactical ride which makes points more. So take away double points it would be 12 from 6 rides. Â Max scored 10 from 5 rides last time No much different then. All the talk of BV being strengthened but let's not forget the only time Tungate rode our track he scored 15+2 from 6 rides... Poole definitely strengthened! Only got 3 last night so his form has dropped a bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Rohan will doubtless be testing things when he guests on Monday, in readiness for his more important meeting 2 days later. Â So I don't expect a huge score from him - but all Pirates now have some experience of the NSS track so should make for an interesting meeting. Â (ps. Tungate only on 'standby' for Poole's meeting the following night at the AF Arena) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Here's an idea. Promoters should kid fans that they have signed all the top riders to race for our clubs in the 2017 season, but then say they can't use them as they are riding somewhere else that night and will have to use a stand-in. Supporters will sleep in the belief that the real stars have returned. Â Afterall, many don't notice... or even care. The whole sport is tootling along in this country, and a stadium that can race on any day it wishes chooses to put a match on in which one of its riders is elsewhere. Â Let's just get it on tonight; tomorrow will look after itself. Edited September 8, 2016 by moxey63 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 If he rode for Swindon at Belle Vue he wouldn't be able to guest for Poole two days later  So how come Paddy can guest ride for Belle Vue 5 days after riding for his own club Leicester at Belle Vue ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 It is a standard bsf rule that Belle Vue are always strengthened by a guest or rr while every other team is weakened, swapping our best home rider for a rider who would be at reserve for us and using the reserves to replace a rider someone considered good enough for the GB swc team obviously makes us a lot stronger. Â Big blow for Poole having to swap a rider who scored 6 from 5 on his last visit with one who scored paid 17 on his last visit! Hardly worth Poole bothering in the circumstances, lol! That rider that got paid 17 got 3 last night. I think his form has dropped a bit! That rider that i considered should be in the SWC team hasn't exactly hit much form at home so i was wrong on that one. Paddy got paid 14 last night although i recognise he isn't as good as Fricke. On the plus side for your team is the form of Jacobs so having to use a reserve for a r/r isn't too bad. I am not saying you are strengthened and neither is Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 So how come Paddy can guest ride for Belle Vue 5 days after riding for his own club Leicester at Belle Vue ??? Because, believe it or not, the 8 day rule does not apply to the home team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Â So how come Paddy can guest ride for Belle Vue 5 days after riding for his own club Leicester at Belle Vue ??? Because he is riding for the home team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Rohan will doubtless be testing things when he guests on Monday, in readiness for his more important meeting 2 days later. Â So I don't expect a huge score from him - but all Pirates now have some experience of the NSS track so should make for an interesting meeting. Â (ps. Tungate only on 'standby' for Poole's meeting the following night at the AF Arena) Â Not the greatest of guest bookings then by Middlo or MF or both!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 The league favourites Belle Vue have got the perfect guest in Hougaard who boosts their team strength somewhat. Hougaard is certainly better than Fricke around BV as anyone with an ounce of speedway knowledge can see.  Just waiting for Palm Toft to come in now to replace Richie Worrall.  It really does seem this Gavan chap is determined to make a pillock of himself on every single Poole theead. Admire his determination to do it though. Laughable you think Hougaard is better that Fricke.......you need to get more knowledge of the sport before you make stupid trolling comments pal. No doubts belle vue are weakened without fricke and nicholls. Paddy is a good guest but Fricke is superb round belle vue. Of course they are weakened anyone with any common sense can see that  Missing our best rider in Max and the Captain Scott makes us considerably weaker.  We had 7.50 to fill Max's spot but we've remained loyal to our assets and gone with Patrick on his low 6.30 average. That would normally put him a reserve for us using current green sheets. Having to use mainly reserves to cover Scott only increases the pressure. The final nail in our coffin is Mr Paid Seventeen Tungate, an astute horses for courses pick from Ford. Poole by 7, unfortunately.  Just thought is Partrick in place of Max as his average is so low he could replace Scott and we could run R/R for Max with everyone taking a ride? Might save our bacon. Great choice of guest for Poole in Tungate who got paid 17 last time where as Hans got 6. Swings this match hugely into Pooles favour. Unless Middlo has an issue getting Tungate motivated Because, believe it or not, the 8 day rule does not apply to the home team. And believe it or not Belle Vue are not favourites for the title they are joint with Poole at 15/8 but hey when have you ever had any knowledge pal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 If he rode for Swindon at Belle Vue he wouldn't be able to guest for Poole two days later yes he would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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