foreverblue Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Newman wasn't a happy bunny on twitter last night, Middlo tweeted a photo of the broken spokes on Newman's front wheel from where it was hit by Lindgren. I know he wasn't happy but just because they touched doesn't mean Lindgren was at fault. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) I know he wasn't happy but just because they touched doesn't mean Lindgren was at fault.A cradley fan who was right in front of where it happened, seemed to think so!'Kyle got cleaned up big time' and along the lines of Freddie rode into the side of him when he cut back to the inside and also 'bizarre decision' by the ref. Edited September 6, 2016 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 I know he wasn't happy but just because they touched doesn't mean Lindgren was at fault. I thought it was a 50/50 incident , both had a legit claim but the rule says someone has to go and on this occasion lindgren got the nod , in general I thought Newman was pushed very hard in a few first corners last night but he rode determined and kept coming out on top 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 A cradley fan who was right in front of where it happened, seemed to think so! 'Kyle got cleaned up big time' and along the lines of Freddie rode into the side of him when he cut back to the inside and also 'bizarre decision' by the ref. Ruddy hell LC, glad you picked an independent witness 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 A cradley fan who was right in front of where it happened, seemed to think so! 'Kyle got cleaned up big time' and along the lines of Freddie rode into the side of him when he cut back to the inside and also 'bizarre decision' by the ref. They would have blamed Freddie even if he wasn't even in the race! You are unlikely to get an unblinkered Cradley response. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 They would have blamed Freddie even if he wasn't even in the race! You are unlikely to get an unblinkered Cradley response. I thought It was Simon Cross's fault 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 I thought It was Simon Cross's fault  Don't be daft, Scott 'Scud' Smith surely! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Â Don't be daft, Scott 'Scud' Smith surely! i tried to message you but it wouldnt let me. Not many i trust on here but your one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 i tried to message you but it wouldnt let me. Not many i trust on here but your one of themI think I may throw up! They would have blamed Freddie even if he wasn't even in the race! You are unlikely to get an unblinkered Cradley response. I think they hate Poole just as much. Actually you probably know who he is! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 i tried to message you but it wouldnt let me. Not many i trust on here but your one of them What about Chris4gillian? Â Although they do say nutcases dont tend to trust themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 It's clear noone is going to hammer Poole because of their strength in depth, but also they are capable of being mediocre....... so I still think they are going to be difficult to beat in the playoffs, unless Holder decides he's not playing and one of the reserves has a real off night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 i tried to message you but it wouldnt let me. Not many i trust on here but your one of them  The 'annoying Ippo fan' blocked by the 'Portuguese Man O' War'! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016  The 'annoying Ippo fan' blocked by the 'Portuguese Man O' War'! lol  Haha.. I don't block anyone.  Message box was full from all my fans. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Â Haha.. I don't block anyone. Â Message box was full from all my fans. As long as your fingernail... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Don't understand all the posts referring to the track been slick, it was deep and heavy after so much rain thats why riders were struggling sometimes and definatly why Klindt couldn't even turn the bike properly until his last ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Don't understand all the posts referring to the track been slick, it was deep and heavy after so much rain thats why riders were struggling sometimes and definatly why Klindt couldn't even turn the bike properly until his last ride Is it the fact that maybe the bikes/engines are becoming more difficult to ride on tracks such as Wolves ( this is not a pop at the track orTai) since his return Tai has not looked totally at ease to say the least with two offs in as many weeks.He is one of the best riders in the world yet he seems less than comfortable to say the least in some of races I have seen him in .Tai has been used to completely different tracks for the last couple of years and may have a little ring rust but that said I just wonder whether this is a perfect example of the over tuned and unpredictable characteristics of these rockets ships that are now being used . Â I know Doyle is on fire at the moment but has ridden consistently in the EL over recent years and is enjoying the form of his life ,he is also by nature less than cautious at times to say the least and maybe prepared to take more risks than many of his GP counterparts racing in the EL. Â I just think that in their pursuit of speed perhaps the riders will damage the sport more from an entertainment point ( not to mention further serious injuries)of view as they constantly have to have an eye on the fact that the bike could launch them into the fence at any moment .If this is their mind set then they are unable to relax and concentrate on getting the better of the rider in front, as lets face it self preservation is the primary instinct in us all !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016  The 'annoying Ippo fan' blocked by the 'Portuguese Man O' War'! lol  He doesn't annoy me - I look forward to his posts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Is it the fact that maybe the bikes/engines are becoming more difficult to ride on tracks such as Wolves ( this is not a pop at the track orTai) since his return Tai has not looked totally at ease to say the least with two offs in as many weeks.He is one of the best riders in the world yet he seems less than comfortable to say the least in some of races I have seen him in .Tai has been used to completely different tracks for the last couple of years and may have a little ring rust but that said I just wonder whether this is a perfect example of the over tuned and unpredictable characteristics of these rockets ships that are now being used . Â I know Doyle is on fire at the moment but has ridden consistently in the EL over recent years and is enjoying the form of his life ,he is also by nature less than cautious at times to say the least and maybe prepared to take more risks than many of his GP counterparts racing in the EL. Think the q think that in their pursuit of speed perhaps the riders will damage the sport more from an entertainment point ( not to mention further serious injuries)of view as they constantly have to have an eye on the fact that the bike could launch them into the fence at any moment .If this is their mind set then they are unable to relax and concentrate on getting the better of the rider in front, as lets face it self preservation is the primary instinct in us all !!!! Think the quality of the shale used nowadays has got a lot to do with the standard of racing. You hardly ever see riders blasting around the outside now at Monmore,and dispite of the track being regularly named "track of year",its been sometime since one can say the racing has being exiting. Think this has something to do with the amount of clay in the shale,although not sure what the mixture used to be in the "old days". Monmore to my mind has always been red in colour,whereas the old Cradley track used to have more of a grey surface. Am I right in thinking that all the shale used now on speedway tracks comes from the one source(Breedon Aggregates)or is it quarried from different parts of the country?. You certainly notice the difference in the shale,when you watch the racing from Sweden or Poland.Do they use less of a clay mixture than we use here in the UK. Â Could be wrong of course,and it might be all in the head.Especially when NKI broke the track record at Wolves a couple of weeks ago. But it does make you wonder when the likes of Freddie and Tai often stuggle on the track surface,and some lesser -known riders even have trouble turning the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) Think the quality of the shale used nowadays has got a lot to do with the standard of racing. You hardly ever see riders blasting around the outside now at Monmore,and dispite of the track being regularly named "track of year",its been sometime since one can say the racing has being exiting. Think this has something to do with the amount of clay in the shale,although not sure what the mixture used to be in the "old days". Monmore to my mind has always been red in colour,whereas the old Cradley track used to have more of a grey surface. Am I right in thinking that all the shale used now on speedway tracks comes from the one source(Breedon Aggregates)or is it quarried from different parts of the country?. You certainly notice the difference in the shale,when you watch the racing from Sweden or Poland.Do they use less of a clay mixture than we use here in the UK. Â Could be wrong of course,and it might be all in the head.Especially when NKI broke the track record at Wolves a couple of weeks ago. But it does make you wonder when the likes of Freddie and Tai often stuggle on the track surface,and some lesser -known riders even have trouble turning the bike. the reason why nobody goes round the fence at wolves is because the banking only goes 3/4 of the track and then the camber goes the other way like rye house does , I was talking to a rider in the changing rooms a couple of weeks back about he always went well round wolves but lately he doesn't seem to go so well there and he said he didn't like the track anymore cause of the adverse camber on the outside Edited September 7, 2016 by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) the reason why nobody goes round the fence at wolves is because the banking only goes 3/4 of the track and then the camber goes the other way like rye house does , I was talking to a rider in the changing rooms a couple of weeks back about he always went well round wolves but lately he doesn't seem to go so well there and he said he didn't like the track anymore cause of the adverse camber on the outside Newman and Kurtz seemed to give the outside a go but most try passing on the inside or the Karlsson corridor as it used to be called on the back straight. Â Also can anyone give me a reason why Danny King couldn't have guested for Poole at Wolves, i realise we couldn't foresee Klindt would be hopeless but surely a better option anyway. Edited September 7, 2016 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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