Poole Vs Belle Vue 1st September 2016

[Steve Shovlar]

Just arrived to big queues at the turnsyles.

[ouch]

With their big home advantage Poole will win this one. I don't envisage a track requiring throttle control like last time and I think the regular gate and go type fare which is the norm down there will see them trump The ®aces.

[Phil The Ace]

The riders will be joining the fans if the line goes any wider.

[mdmc82]

Great guesting from Kaspazak who got a paid Max. Much better than Hans would have scored

[Coventry_Bee]

How much longer is Bjarne at reserve?

[Gavan]

i fancy Poole by 10 especially as they will be stronger with KK in for the 'injured' Hans.

 

Holder should outscore Zagar

Ellis is good at home so should outscore Steve Worrall

KK is better than any of Nicholls Cook and Fricke.

I would expect Kurtz to do better than Fricke

Buck has been poor so his score may prove pivotal.

 

Newman and Bjarne should outscore their direct opposition.

 

Obviously all the above wont happen but the majority will which would see a Poole win

 

OOPS I said Poole by 10 but it was 11. Most of what I predicted came true but to be fair most of it was obvious

Last time against Belle Vue Kurtz and Ellis got 8 from reserve and Pedersen and Newman got 9 from the main body.

 

Steve Worrall got 12 from reserve last time and Richie 3 from the main team. Jacobs got 1.

 

I would expect the Poole reserves tonight Pedersen and Newman to get 13 or 14 between them minimum and the Belle Vue reserves maybe 8.

 

I would also expect Ellis and Kurtz to get more than 9 between them as well.

 

Add in last time Hans and Joonas got 15 and this time its a stronger pair in Buck and KK, then i would expect Poole by at least 10.

 

As i said earlier this is speedway it doesnt pan out the way it should, but the riding order tonight is more beneficial to Poole then it was last time. (i.e Newman not at heat leader and Holder not waste at 4)

Again to easy to predict

The Worrall brothers got 15 last time, switch roles and they get 9

Poole reserves beat their counterparts 18-5

Buck and KK got 19 between them

 

Blatantly obvious to anyone that Poole are still hot favourites for the league. Only a troll would disagree

 

Ellis and Kurtz still a concern though.

[stevebrum]

Surprised it was such an easy win.

It's like no one wants to carry any real good form into the play offs with such up and down results for all teams in contention.

Wolves seem to be the only team with momentum right now.

[Coventry_Bee]

It changes from week to week who is favourite, too close to call and I just hope the final is won by the top guys doing the business rather than a reserve top scoring.

[waiheke1]

Surprised it was such an easy win.

It's like no one wants to carry any real good form into the play offs with such up and down results for all teams in contention.

Wolves seem to be the only team with momentum right now.

Tbf, Poole had kk who is clearly one of the top riders in the league (did someone seriously try to argue Lindgren was as good?!?).

He scored probably 5 more than Hans would have done so that's a 10 point swing. Obviously without that we wouldn't have the 3 extra points for cook, but that drops the gap to 4. And I would happily take a 4 point deficit at poole in the play offs.

 

Also disagree with Gavan saying Ellis must be a concern. An EDR riding 2nd string is doing their job if they can score 3 or 4.

The real concern for poole must be that Hans will be fit again for the play offs ;-)

[Steve Shovlar]

How much longer is Bjarne at reserve?

Until the end of the season I gather.

 

Well that was a one sided affair. For the first few heats I thought Belle Vue were going to put up a serious frght but it didn't materialise. Poole had all bases covered in a great meeting with lots of passing and exciting racing.

 

The track was nicely prepared but on the slicker side. Certainly a couple of the Poole riders, Ellis and Kurtz struggled more than usual but Holder, KK, Bjarne and Newman enjoyed it until the final few heats when it turned more gate and go.

 

A big crowd, perfect weather for speedway and top notch racing. What more could you want?

 

For Poole Holder was excellent. Ran a last in heat 15 when there was nothing to race for.

Ellis didn't have a great night. Think conditions were not to his style.

Buckowski was an improvement on recent for and had the race of the night.

Kurtz struggled. Replaced in his last race.

KK was sublime. No one could get near him. Went past Zagar like he was standing still. Untouchable.

Newman battled hard for all his points.

Bjarne showed some speed tonight and did very well

 

For Belle Vue Zagar was average.

S Worrall rode well tonight.

Fricke was rubbish. Got a win in heat 14 when the track was spent. Nearly messed that up as well.

Nicholls was their best rider and fought for every point.

Cook had one blinding ride when on a t/r in heat 11.

R Worrall had one win in heat 2 then went awol.

Jacobs was not at the races.

 

Of course Poole were strengthened a little by having KK in for Hans, but had Hans ridden we would still have won this imo.

 

Over two legs I feel Poole could have the beating of Belle Vue. However we are not likely to meet them unless its the final. And getting past Wolves with that trick track is far more daunting a prospect.

Edited September 1, 2016 by Steve Shovlar

[foreverblue]

As i said before KK has never let Poole down and was faultless, shame that he can't guest for us again. Hans is not KK and would not have scored as well so on that basis we are not favourites. Unfortunately Kurtz is proving me right and should have stayed PL for another year and we should have kept Kacper. Fricke was obviously feeling guilty about his abysmal performance at Leicester!

[SCB]

How much longer is Bjarne at reserve?

As of tonight, Bjarne is 3rd in Pooles rolling averages while Kurtz is 6th. So Kurtz drops to reserve, Buzz drops to second string and Bjarne goes to heat leader.

 

But before they get new averages Poole have to go to Wolves on Monday, are at home to Wolves on Wednesday and at BV the following week. Averages after that meeting will determine who of Bjarne, Buzz, Ellis and Kurtz will be heat leader or reserve, they're all so close that frankly they could end up in any order after the next 3 meetings. Newman is pretty certain to stay in reserve while Holder and Hans will be heat leaders. The new averages then come into effect on the 19th September.

Edited September 1, 2016 by SCB

[LisaColette]

As i said before KK has never let Poole down and was faultless, shame that he can't guest for us again. Hans is not KK and would not have scored as well so on that basis we are not favourites. Unfortunately Kurtz is proving me right and should have stayed PL for another year and we should have kept Kacper. Fricke was obviously feeling guilty about his abysmal performance at Leicester!

I thought that about Fricke too! I know he struggles at Poole but he's not usually that bad.

 

Great to watch KK's display tonight. Even riders like Doyle and Tai wouldn't have stopped him.

[SteveLyric2]

With the new averages now available = effective 5th September, Pedersen stays at reserve for the next 2 weeks (on the same average as Kurtz - 6.24) but if tonight is anything to go by, then Kurtz could well drop to reserve for the play-offs.

Edited September 1, 2016 by Skidder1

[LisaColette]

With the new averages now available, Pedersen stays at reserve for the next 2 weeks (on the same average as Kurtz - 6.24) but if tonight is anything to go by, then Kurtz could well drop to reserve for the play-offs.

Who is more beneficial to be at reserve? Are they trying to get Brady there for playoffs for example.

[foreverblue]

With the new averages now available = effective 5th September, Pedersen stays at reserve for the next 2 weeks (on the same average as Kurtz - 6.24) but if tonight is anything to go by, then Kurtz could well drop to reserve for the play-offs.

That could be good news for his confidence and more in line with his ability.I feel we would be better overall with Kurtz at reserve and Ellis as second string bcause i think Bjarne can cope with heat leader better, good performance tonight.

[Starman2006]

With their big home advantage Poole will win this one. I don't envisage a track requiring throttle control like last time and I think the regular gate and go type fare which is the norm down there will see them trump The ®aces.

Again your talking from a distance. plenty of good races, Great meeting great result and great racing from KK and Bjarne. This is not finished yet.. But you keep making those predictions from a distance..

Edited September 1, 2016 by Starman2006

[mdmc82]

I thought that about Fricke too! I know he struggles at Poole but he's not usually that bad.

 

Great to watch KK's display tonight. Even riders like Doyle and Tai wouldn't have stopped him.

Kaspazak has been amazing to watch this year. After having Hans the last two years it's been a joy to finally have a proper number one

[foreverblue]

Kaspazak has been amazing to watch this year. After having Hans the last two years it's been a joy to finally have a proper number one

Yes i can appreciate that, always liked KK and he has ridden well this year. Unfortunately Hans isn't much better than last year!

Edited September 1, 2016 by foreverblue

[scottyfan]

As of tonight, Bjarne is 3rd in Pooles rolling averages while Kurtz is 6th. So Kurtz drops to reserve, Buzz drops to second string and Bjarne goes to heat leader.

 

But before they get new averages Poole have to go to Wolves on Monday, are at home to Wolves on Wednesday and at BV the following week. Averages after that meeting will determine who of Bjarne, Buzz, Ellis and Kurtz will be heat leader or reserve, they're all so close that frankly they could end up in any order after the next 3 meetings. Newman is pretty certain to stay in reserve while Holder and Hans will be heat leaders. The new averages then come into effect on the 19th September.

Poole are at home to KINGS LYNN on Wednesday live on Sky, already beat Wolves twice at home.