stevebrum Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) yep, really. Couldn't see him pulling up any trees around a Monmore or Blunsdon as they're quite technical. No matter how good a rider is in Poland & Sweden these British tracks always nips em' on the bum he was superb at Belle Vue a track he has never ridden. Piotr owned Monmore in the 3/4 season he was with us and Dudek is as good. Don't think any of our tracks would be an issue to such class riders. give him one ride to figure it and he would be fine at Monmore. Can't have Dudek i am sure i read he would be on a 7.50 average which is too highHaven't seen any clarification on his assessed average however anything less than 7.5 would be a disgrace. Edited September 12, 2016 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 he was superb at Belle Vue a track he has never ridden. Piotr owned Monmore in the 3/4 season he was with us and Dudek is as good. Don't think any of our tracks would be an issue to such class riders. give him one ride to figure it and he would be fine at Monmore. Haven't seen any clarification on his assessed average however anything less than 7.5 would be a disgrace. What average did Piotr Pawlicki come over on the other year, probably be the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 What average did Piotr Pawlicki come over on the other year, probably be the same? 7.00 and he wasn't a GP rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 7.00 and he wasn't a GP riderBut Dudek is not a GP rider til next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 But Dudek is not a GP rider til next year! but is way ahead in both Poland and Sweden than Piotr was so 7.5 at the least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 but is way ahead in both Poland and Sweden than Piotr was so 7.5 at the leastHe has a official average from his time at Wolves and i believe its 7.32 which is too high so have to be his brother who is 6.75 from his time at Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 What average did Piotr Pawlicki come over on the other year, probably be the same? 7.00 although I believe they used his previous time with Poole as a bench mark too. Piotr was a young kid still riding in reserve in Poland when he rode for Wolves in 2014. Dudek is an established rider in all other leagues and it used to be 8.00 assessed rider if I remember correct. That seems fair, like I said previously anything less than 7.50 is just plain wrong as he clearly is good enough to warrant that sort of assessment. Dudek IS a GP rider, as he has already qualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I don't think teams should be able to bring riders in at such a late stage, there should be a transfer window so that any replacements have to be declared for a certain number of league matches before athe play offs. If you have injuries then hard luck, just like Belle Vue in 2005. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 7.00 although I believe they used his previous time with Poole as a bench mark too. Piotr was a young kid still riding in reserve in Poland when he rode for Wolves in 2014. Dudek is an established rider in all other leagues and it used to be 8.00 assessed rider if I remember correct. That seems fair, like I said previously anything less than 7.50 is just plain wrong as he clearly is good enough to warrant that sort of assessment. Dudek IS a GP rider, as he has already qualified. Dudek is a GP rider in 2017. We are still in 2016 far as I'm aware! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Dudek is a GP rider in 2017. We are still in 2016 far as I'm aware! That's just semantics as far as I'm concerned. His form in other countries alone indicate it can't be as low as 7 GP rider or not. He qualified for 2017 GP in 2016 did he not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 That's just semantics as far as I'm concerned. His form in other countries alone indicate it can't be as low as 7 GP rider or not. He qualified for 2017 GP in 2016 did he not? He did, he is not a GP rider til 2017 though. Is he riding in next GP? No? Therefore he is not a GP rider, yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 He did, he is not a GP rider til 2017 though. Is he riding in next GP? No? Therefore he is not a GP rider, yet! Makes no difference to what average he might come in on if he wanted to tho given he is a proven world class rider. The most important thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 something not right . middlo said last nite hans still waiting for op and looks like he,s done for this season. but hans had an op on the 10th . middlo wud know this as he,s usually on twitter a lot.is it his way of lettin hans know matts plans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I would prefer horses for courses guests from bottom four team's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I don't think Middlo is Hans' biggest fan tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) something not right . middlo said last nite hans still waiting for op and looks like he,s done for this season. but hans had an op on the 10th . middlo wud know this as he,s usually on twitter a lot.is it his way of lettin hans know matts plans Middlo said in the paper he is very doubtful for the playoffs after undergoing hand surgery. Edited September 13, 2016 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Middlo said in the paper he will miss the playoffs after undergoing hand surgery. You can't say he is injured and the rider himself says he is fit to ride tho. Woffy, and Wolves were upfront about reasons why he missed meetings even tho i didn't agree with them. Middlo and Hans seem to have very different agendas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 7.00 although I believe they used his previous time with Poole as a bench mark too. Piotr was a young kid still riding in reserve in Poland when he rode for Wolves in 2014. Dudek is an established rider in all other leagues and it used to be 8.00 assessed rider if I remember correct. That seems fair, like I said previously anything less than 7.50 is just plain wrong as he clearly is good enough to warrant that sort of assessment. Dudek IS a GP rider, as he has already qualified Steve let them have him on a 7.The way to look at it is you got woffie on a 7.03 ave based on a p poor season 2 years ago when he way under performed and did not want to be there and could not be bothered and ended up with a false p/poor average.When today he is clearly good enougth to warrent an 8 as a GP rider but he is not he is a 7.03.So looking at it from that point of view and just based on their ability today Woffie is slightly better so if he is worth a 7.03 average Dudek is on a 7 anything more is just plain wrong and not keeping within the fair rules of the play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Steve let them have him on a 7.The way to look at it is you got woffie on a 7.03 ave based on a p poor season 2 years ago when he way under performed and did not want to be there and could not be bothered and ended up with a false p/poor average.When today he is clearly good enougth to warrent an 8 as a GP rider but he is not he is a 7.03.So looking at it from that point of view and just based on their ability today Woffie is slightly better so if he is worth a 7.03 average Dudek is on a 7 anything more is just plain wrong and not keeping within the fair rules of the play offs. One earned from a shocking bad season but earned. Tai is riding at 8.41 this season which is a truer reflection. You can only judge a new rider within the rules. 8 for an established Swedish/Polish heat leader it used to be or GP rider. Seems fair enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 emil came in on assessd 8 . i think it only resonably fair dudek shud be 8 . his form in poland and sweden hes averaging over 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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