waiheke1 Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 So if the top 8 stays as it is: pedersen puk zagar and emil for wildcards? With the last spot pretty open if emil still not interested. No brit would deserve it, surely they wouldn't give 3 to Danes, can't see a 5th pole getting it, no need to add a 3rd swede... g laguta, given he finally turned out for the bsi swc? As it is I think nick may scrape top 8 at expense of lindback or pawlicki, which would likely open a wc for killer plus the rider dropping out. Either way, looks like a good line up for next year. As for lungs comments: surely if credible you would expect bsi "favourites" at 1 and 13 as well? Maybe lambert is but surely say dudek would have got a decent draw? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Now I know who that was! Let's give him his due. The mighty John Ellis (Jack ) Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 If you accept that the Premier League is equivalent to its predecessors (BL2 etc) then Long Eaton's Jan Steachmann came 10th in the 1994 World Final and as a result qualified for the 1995 Grand Prix series. Wasn't Mario Jirout riding in the Grand Prix and the 2nd Division or am I way off here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Was 1999 he was riding for Peterborough who had moved that season to the elite league iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) Sore Loser or does he have a point?Sore Loser and bullsh#t look at the heat results all the decent riders won from 2 outside gates it was pretty even over the meetingThe top 5 were either 1st or 2nd in all their riders from the outside 2 gates. Edited September 4, 2016 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June01 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Are there any pics of Freddie apparently being over the white line in the race-off? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 For me get Emil in the GP line up, it then would be the best line up it ever could be. Maybe there could be a case for Laguta at his very best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Either or both of the Lagutas at their very best would be good for the GP's, but they dont seem consistent enough. I know Vaculick has qualified, but hes another one that cant seem to string consistent performances together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Bjerre in with a chance if Freddie gets into the top 8 anyway.......pah!!!Series reserves are picked, not qualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 For me get Emil in the GP line up, it then would be the best line up it ever could be. Maybe there could be a case for Laguta at his very best. Hasnt been at his best this season and while i agree he would spice it up and be a contender i think the likes of Iversen Zagar and Pedersen would deserve a pick far more. That leaves the one place that in my mind will be Hampel or Kildemand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Hasnt been at his best this season and while i agree he would spice it up and be a contender i think the likes of Iversen Zagar and Pedersen would deserve a pick far more. That leaves the one place that in my mind will be Hampel or Kildemand For me Emil,Darcy, Tai are the best of there generation a tragedy we never see them strut there stuff against each other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 For me Emil,Darcy, Tai are the best of there generation a tragedy we never see them strut there stuff against each other. They were and Tai always had the edge over the other 2 though time would have maybe told a different story. I just think that riders who have graced the series for a number of years and done themselves proud (especially a 3x world champion like Nicki) deserve that 1 chance at least to put a poor season behind them. Thats why i feel Zagar, Iversen and Pedersen in particular warrant a wild card. Emil is arguably better than all 3 of them but he hasnt ridden in it for a few years now, so i would definatly put the three riders i mentioned ahead of him. Riders like Jonsson who have struggled for a number of years should be left out now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Such a shame because i had the pleasure of seeing Darcy ride last year and he looked fit and his gating seemed to have improved.I am convinced he would of had a hell of a chance of being WC I rated him higher than Tai but now we are robbed of the chance of him proving it.Emil is a talent is his temperment suspect? there are doubts but when on it one hell of a rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Such a shame because i had the pleasure of seeing Darcy ride last year and he looked fit and his gating seemed to have improved.I am convinced he would of had a hell of a chance of being WC I rated him higher than Tai but now we are robbed of the chance of him proving it.Emil is a talent is his temperment suspect? there are doubts but when on it one hell of a rider. Emils temperament, what about Wards ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 They were and Tai always had the edge over the other 2 though time would have maybe told a different story. I just think that riders who have graced the series for a number of years and done themselves proud (especially a 3x world champion like Nicki) deserve that 1 chance at least to put a poor season behind them. Thats why i feel Zagar, Iversen and Pedersen in particular warrant a wild card. Emil is arguably better than all 3 of them but he hasnt ridden in it for a few years now, so i would definatly put the three riders i mentioned ahead of him. Riders like Jonsson who have struggled for a number of years should be left out now Tend to agree with what you said Gavan. Such a shame because i had the pleasure of seeing Darcy ride last year and he looked fit and his gating seemed to have improved.I am convinced he would of had a hell of a chance of being WC I rated him higher than Tai but now we are robbed of the chance of him proving it.Emil is a talent is his temperment suspect? there are doubts but when on it one hell of a rider. I dont think Emils temperament is a problem. What I DONT see just recently with Emil is a happy chirpy fellow like he used to be. Either he is still carrying an injury or hes not happy with something - maybe that his management have advised him away from the SGP's and he realising he should have been in it over the "missing" years ie 2014-15-16 and possibly 2017.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Emils temperament, what about Wards ????Temperment probably not the right word is Emil really confident in his own ability.?We will never know about Darcy now but temperment would not of been the reason of him not winning a world title in my view. Tend to agree with what you said Gavan. I dont think Emils temperament is a problem. What I DONT see just recently with Emil is a happy chirpy fellow like he used to be. Either he is still carrying an injury or hes not happy with something - maybe that his management have advised him away from the SGP's and he realising he should have been in it over the "missing" years ie 2014-15-16 and possibly 2017.. Think you are right Ove i think he may have comeback a bit to early something not quite right with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 HAD a long chat with Emil at the SWC. He is very happy off the track with a young family. Keeps talking about returning to the SGP but the clock is ticking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 For me get Emil in the GP line up, it then would be the best line up it ever could be. Maybe there could be a case for Laguta at his very best. I agree that it would be great to see Sayfutdinov back in SGP but I think it would be unfair he should get back as a wild card pick, it was his choice he left SGP and I think if he is to get back in it should be through the qualification meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Just a reminder BT sport 1 are showing the 1 hour highlights programme tomorrow- Friday 9th at 10.30pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) Emils temperament, what about Wards ????He had the perfect temperament, did you ever see him phased by anything, natural riders just ooze confidence, they don't have to work it out too much, it just happens. He seemed like he came back from his ban with a different attitude and that would've stood him in good stead to push for number one in the adult world of speedway, til fate devastatingly intervened Edited September 9, 2016 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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