WestGorton1884 Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 monday , not Sunday . Anyway ._ great meeting ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bump Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Everything about it is wrong. The straights are too long and the corners too tight. It is not wide enough. Only one racing line in the middle of the track. No way of passing. Bjarne wasn't fast last night but gated and no one could pass him. He just sat there mid track and it was game over. Every race was over by the second bend. It is, by a long long way, the worst speedway track ever to grace the sport in this country. The first and second bend alterations over last winter have made no difference whatsoever. They need to bring in the bulldozers and remove this scare of a track off the face of the planet. Then start again. Looking at a few posts you've put on some threads in the past 24 hours, one could start to conclude you don't like the Leicester Speedway racetrack very much at all? Just a feeling I'm getting? Sorry, couldn't resist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Bottled it. May start calling you robert72. Why bring me into your tiff with the abusive troll, I never bottled anything. Was that when I was talking to the Poole lot? By the way if you only saw one dog then I'd lost one because they were both there last night. Not sure who you were chatting too, ah I missed the S on the end of dog, yes I saw 2 dogs with lit up flashing collars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Going back to speedway the Belle Vue track is really exciting really has lit up British speedway no home advantage at all.A credit to British speedway what about a big meeting being held there say a big individual meeting.Could be a great weekend i am sure it would be a sell out with the best riders in the world being there.Going back to Carter i am with Sommeiller on this one i will remember Carter more for his riding than the horrendous act he commmited i was thinking god how he would of loved this new Belle Vue track right up his street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 I never bottled anything. Someone has short term memory syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Everything about it is wrong. The straights are too long and the corners too tight. It is not wide enough. Only one racing line in the middle of the track. No way of passing. Bjarne wasn't fast last night but gated and no one could pass him. He just sat there mid track and it was game over. Every race was over by the second bend. It is, by a long long way, the worst speedway track ever to grace the sport in this country. The first and second bend alterations over last winter have made no difference whatsoever. They need to bring in the bulldozers and remove this scare of a track off the face of the planet. Then start again. The alterations we're on the third and fourth bend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 The alterations we're on the third and fourth bend. Regardless of which bend its clearly made no difference whatsoever. What is desperately needed is a new promotion with some cadh to come in and put in a brand new track. The current one is only good for gating practice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 whatever,whatever about the track it was a very,very poor show from the poole team,that was the real problem,if we tonked them and picked up 4pts no comments about the track. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 whatever,whatever about the track it was a very,very poor show from the poole team,that was the real problem,if we tonked them and picked up 4pts no comments about the track. Yes we were not interested. But I would have been just as scathing as I was on my last visit even if we had won. Perhaps the crap track was highlighted even more because we visited BV earlier. Get the dozers in and rip it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted August 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Anyway back to Speedway . The new track at Belle Vue as completely rekindled my love for the sport , not seen a bad meeting there all year , and Sunday against Poole was one of best ive seen since Hyde Road closed , ,._.One question, having never been there , why is Leicesters track so bad ? The shape ? To be fair, since we did the track alterations pre season, the racing has been tons better at Leicester, and I am sure, there are fans on here will confirm that.... However, the weather in the run up to this fixture was truly awful.. The track was completely flooded after Saturday's horrendous thunderstorms... On Sunday, we managed to get rid of ALL the laying water by 5pm, only for the heavens to open again!!! And we were back to square one.. Then on Monday morning, on waking it was raining again!! (The only rain cloud in the UK was over Leicester!!!) So, once the rain stopped (around 10.30am) we set about removing the fresh laying rainwater once again, which was done by lunchtime. The rest of the day was spent on shale drying, and relaying the racing surface, which made the track slicker than normal.. Edited August 31, 2016 by Shale Searcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 To be fair, since we did the track alterations pre season, the racing has been tons better at Leicester, and I am sure, there are fans on here will confirm that.... However, the weather in the run up to this fixture was truly awful.. The track was completely flooded after Saturday's horrendous thunderstorms... On Sunday, we managed to get rid of ALL the laying water by 5pm, only for the heavens to open again!!! And we were back to square one.. Then on Monday morning, on waking it was raining again!! (The only rain cloud in the UK was over Leicester!!!) So, once the rain stopped (around 10.30am) we set about removing the fresh laying rainwater once again, which was done by lunchtime. The rest of the day was spent on shale drying, and relaying the racing surface, which made the track slicker than normal.. I would like to point out I am not critisizing the quality of the track prep. It is the overall shape which is the issue. As the club are almost in receivership and not paying wages, there clearly isn't a penny spare. What can happen next year? Hemsley has burnt his bridges ala Trump and is a goner. Even if he pays the 7000 fine they won't let him back. And he says they can stick the fine where the sun dont shine! So any prospective buyer cant buy the place as the bspa have said no new promoters lisence will be granted until the fine is paid. Would a new promoter who is only a tennant be prepared to spend thousands on a new track to improve the racing? The place is doomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethelion Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Everything about it is wrong. The straights are too long and the corners too tight. It is not wide enough. Only one racing line in the middle of the track. No way of passing. Bjarne wasn't fast last night but gated and no one could pass him. He just sat there mid track and it was game over. Every race was over by the second bend. It is, by a long long way, the worst speedway track ever to grace the sport in this country. The first and second bend alterations over last winter have made no difference whatsoever. They need to bring in the bulldozers and remove this scare of a track off the face of the planet. Then start again. What I can't understand about the track is that it can & has produced excellent racing at times this season since the alterations to bends 3 & 4. I'm thinking particularly of the KL match when there was, by memory passing in most heats & also the second meeting against Coventry which also contained plenty of passing. But as you rightly say, generally speaking passing is pretty rare. You have been unlucky that the 2 matches against Poole this season have been the worst in terms of passing ( 2 in 30 heats, that I can think of). So if passing is possible in some meetings, why, in others is it non- existent? is it the shale, track-prep, weather conditions, I don't know, but as Shale Searcher says there was a lot of rain in the build up to Mondays meeting & the track was under water. I hope that bends 1&2 are altered next season, if there is a next season, & see if that improves things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 One rule that must be changed must be to prevent a team manager bringing in a better reserve to start from the gate when the original reserve is disqualified for touching the tapes. The original reserve should be made to go from 15 metres otherwise there is no punishment to the offending team who invariably benefit by scoring more points than they would originally have gained. This happened in this match when Kyle Newman was replaced by Bjarne Pedersen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 One rule that must be changed must be to prevent a team manager bringing in a better reserve to start from the gate when the original reserve is disqualified for touching the tapes. The original reserve should be made to go from 15 metres otherwise there is no punishment to the offending team who invariably benefit by scoring more points than they would originally have gained. This happened in this match when Kyle Newman was replaced by Bjarne Pedersen. But Bjarne could have come in anyway as a reserve change. It was Middlos decision fo Kyle to come to tapes and he could have been swapped out before the race. By the way nice to meet you on Monday BB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Not sure who you were chatting too, ah I missed the S on the end of dog, yes I saw 2 dogs with lit up flashing collars Must have been walking back to the shopping centre then when Lucy was off lead because no way did she have a flashing light at the stadium ~ I'm not daft as I could have stopped a race with the red light. It wasn't flashing anyway and Molly didn't have one. You'll really have to make yourself known because I actually agree with quite a lot of the things you say, apart from dogs being at Speedway of course. Anyway, back to the discussion about the crappy track. Edited August 31, 2016 by Gemini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 But Bjarne could have come in anyway as a reserve change. It was Middlos decision fo Kyle to come to tapes and he could have been swapped out before the race. By the way nice to meet you on Monday BB. My point is the rider who took part in the original start be it the programmed rider or a reserve replacement should be made to take part in the rerun from 15 meters. This would ensure that the offending team does not gain an advantage from trying it on and the offended team is not penalised in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 One rule that must be changed must be to prevent a team manager bringing in a better reserve to start from the gate when the original reserve is disqualified for touching the tapes. The original reserve should be made to go from 15 metres otherwise there is no punishment to the offending team who invariably benefit by scoring more points than they would originally have gained. This happened in this match when Kyle Newman was replaced by Bjarne Pedersen. Not much chance of that as the powers that be don't do common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace no.5 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) But reserves can replace each other anyway? As long as they have 3 rides minimum... Edit posted before I'd read the last page of the thread! Ok, something that's bugged me a little tonight and the sort of thing that can make or break a season if it happens in a particular instance... Heat 9. Newman excluded for delaying the start twice. Pedersen replaces him and wins the race. Ok, fair enough... Until this... 23/5/16. BV riding away at Poole. Heat 6. Cookie delayed the start twice (despite one of these times making the perfect gate!). Excluded. Nobody allowed in to replace him?! So what is the official rule please? Anyone? Edited August 31, 2016 by Ace no.5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 But reserves can replace each other anyway? As long as they have 3 rides minimum... Edit posted before I'd read the last page of the thread! Anyone? Maybe because it was the same race and Newman was 2 different races? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 But reserves can replace each other anyway? As long as they have 3 rides minimum... Edit posted before I'd read the last page of the thread! Anyone? But if a rider is judged to have tried to cheat or gain an unfair advantage he can be replaced by another rider who is likely to do better. This is unfair to the offended team. The penalised rider should be made to stay in the race but go from 15 metres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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