SteveLyric2 Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Antonio has announced that the Prosecutor in Sweden has dropped all charges against him!! Great news Antonio. Onwards and upwards. (Please don't go out for a few beers to celebrate!!) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Good news Antonio! Edited August 18, 2016 by Jacques Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Absolutely good news. But what is a shame is, just as in this country, someone is accused of a sex crime and all over the press, and when proved innocent, their image is tarnished. Edited August 18, 2016 by Steve Shovlar 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Absolutely good news. But what is a shame is, just as in this country, someone is accused of a sex crime and all over the press, and when proved innocent, their image is tarnished. Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Absolutely good news. But what is a shame is, just as in this country, someone is accused of a sex crime and all over the press, and when proved innocent, their image is tarnished. Absolutely. And when someone line Ched Evans is found guilty but fickle football fans adoring him and celebrating him and attacking women through social media like our Charlie for standing up for women's rights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Absolutely. And when someone line Ched Evans is found guilty but fickle football fans adoring him and celebrating him and attacking women through social media like our Charlie for standing up for women's rights. Great news about Antonio, but, since you brought the subject up, hasn't Ched Evans' conviction been quashed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Absolutely. And when someone line Ched Evans is found guilty but fickle football fans adoring him and celebrating him and attacking women through social media like our Charlie for standing up for women's rights. Ched has subsequently had his conviction quashed so is as innocent as you or I (well I assume you've got no criminal record ) As for Antonio, the rumours weeks back were that the case was going nowhere. So pleased that has turned out to be the case. I can't imagine the hell the poor guy has been through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Ched has subsequently had his conviction quashed so is as innocent as you or I (well I assume you've got no criminal record ) Didn't know that, just found the article - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-36099522 I do have 9 points on my license, but no criminal record no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 I had a criminal record but gave it to the charity shop. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Wakeman%27s_Criminal_Record 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 I had a criminal record but gave it to the charity shop. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Wakeman%27s_Criminal_Record Good one I am splitting my sides here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 Ched has subsequently had his conviction quashed so is as innocent as you or I (well I assume you've got no criminal record ) As for Antonio, the rumours weeks back were that the case was going nowhere. So pleased that has turned out to be the case. I can't imagine the hell the poor guy has been through. Subsequently being the word, he was a convicted rapist at the time of the adoration by football fans. and as he is having a retrial, he may not be as innocent as you or I, as at the moment he is presumed innocent, his guilt or not is still to be determined by a court 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notenoughnerve Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) I don't think there were many football fans fawning all over Evans. I have read quite a lot about his case, and the conviction was shaky at best. It is my understanding that a case that is overturned and quashed has a pretty good chance of attracting a not guilty verdict when it comes back to court. Sure Evans didn't cover himself in glory, but if what he did was rape, then plenty of people who have drunken assignations after a night out, have something to worry about. Edited August 22, 2016 by Notenoughnerve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 I had a criminal record but gave it to the charity shop. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Wakeman%27s_Criminal_Record And that copy of Max Bygraves' Greatest Hits is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 I don't think there were many football fans fawning all over Evans. I have read quite a lot about his case, and the conviction was shaky at best. It is my understanding that a case that is overturned and quashed has a pretty good chance of attracting a not guilty verdict when it comes back to court. Sure Evans didn't cover himself in glory, but if what he did was rape, then plenty of people who have drunken assignations after a night out, have something to worry about. But the CPS think they have a chance of a conviction, or there wouldnt be another trial About the football fans, if you had been on the Shefffield United forum you would have seen quite a lot of fawning, and some insults even now for Charlie Webster, even in her present condition, ecause she didnt support a then convicted rapist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 As things stand Evans is an innocent man and many expect after the retrial he still will be. His career has been somewhat ruined, over some drunken mistake with a mate and a young silly girl. He most probably would of been a part of Wales massive euro 2016 ceebrations otherwise. If found innocent, the girl making the accusations should be sent down . Its criminal how girls most often get away with crying rape then being proved wrong or admitting it was made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Probably best to let the Jury decide rather than talk about a potential victim as "a silly young girl" and the alleged perpetrator as "an innocent man ... over a drunken mistake" not that your mind is made up or that you are leaning towards a version of events that has been pedaled or influenced by the media reports. I wasn't there so I've no idea what went on consequently I haven't got an opinion, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notenoughnerve Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Normally in rape cases it is one word against another. In Evans' case the unusual situation existed of his word and his mate against her "I have no idea what happened, I was too pissed to know". I'm paraphrasing slightly. The whole conviction seemed to centre on the concept of whether you can consent to sex when drunk. The girl was drunk and had cocaine in her bloodstream, what actually happened is difficult to establish, but the basis for being convicted being "I wouldn't have if I was sober" seems perhaps non conclusive. Edited August 23, 2016 by Notenoughnerve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Probably best to let the Jury decide rather than talk about a potential victim as "a silly young girl" and the alleged perpetrator as "an innocent man ... over a drunken mistake" not that your mind is made up or that you are leaning towards a version of events that has been pedaled or influenced by the media reports. I wasn't there so I've no idea what went on consequently I haven't got an opinion, sorry. i have a very strong opinion of such cases as a mate back in the UK nearly got done for rape after he slept with a girl who was merely tipsy and tried it on with him All night before he gave in and went with her. She dropped the charges days before the trial and said she made it all up . Result? The boy got battered numerous times, parents house vandalised, etc. what happened to the girl? Nothing. Still goes out every weekend and acts like nothing happened. And having followed this case closely, i have no doubt Evans is innocent regarding rape. How many convictions get quashed and retrialed and the new outcome is the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 As theres a retrial coming up I imagine the mods will close this thread fairly soon?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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