Shadders Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 That will probably be my last PLRC. Was bored rigid for most of the meeting and I don't like individual meetings much anyway. Don't think I've seen a really good meeting in all the years I've been going there. The 2007 PL play off final 1st leg was probably my favourite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Congrats to Simon Stead.  Spectacular race with Sam Masters in the Final.  Not the most entertaining meeting I have seen, but its a long time since I saw a PLRC that was entertaining.  Home track advantage did not come into for me lost if not all of the riders have beat Steady around Sheffield, so I don't think tink home advantage came into it.  Neutral track, very difficult to find one only two tracks that could be classed as neutral are Birmingham or Poole that could deal with large crowd.  But if you have a neutral track for this meeting you have do it for them all.  personally I would welcome all shared events going to Belle Vue.  For me the pricing of the meeting is an issue, £20 is far to much, maybe if they took the average for a Premier League match would be acceptable but to be asked to pay 25% extra to what we normally pay at Sheffield is a bit steep. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Sounds like it was a 'cracking meeting' to someone who paid 'Sweet FA' to get in....!!  Those who paid £20 to watch seem to have a different view..  (Obviously though their view isn't valid or accurate, that goes without saying)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkbandit Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016  No fb,no Paulco.I missed you both massively!!  I only go to Sheffield because of the respect I have for supporters who travel from all over the UK to attend this meeting!!It's a great day out catching up with folk you haven't see in a while!!  Who needs a fare dodging tw@t to tell how good a meeting is or isn't!!  Was Paul not there? I thought he was in the car with Elaine, Alan & Bill.  I went to the BTCC at Knockhill last month, first time i've seen it live as i was always working at the hotel when it was on. I loved it, so when i saw the Super Tourer's clashed with today, i knew i'd have a problem haha.  £30 in the tank for Berwick last night and Knockhill today, and admission to both was all still cheaper than what my fuel would've been to Sheffield and back, before i'd paid my hotel or bought a pint. 17 races today at Knockhill from 9.45am - 6pm, all for £17 admission. Speedway could learn a lesson there.  We'll organise it better for next year though mate. I can't say i thought of the speedway today, but i did think of the banter at the NBT i'd be missing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Just back from Sheffield. Congrats to Stead but worst meeting I've been to in a long time. Zero passes and had to wait until last 3 races for some excitement. This meeting needs to be taken away from Sheffield, as someone has mentioned, such a shame we don't have a national stadium!!! If this meeting is at Sheffield next year, I for one won't be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho3a Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Who actually prepared the track for this meeting?? Thought it was Rob Godfrey on tractor?? Did the bspa prepare the track ?? Was certainly very poor tonight.. Not seen a good plrc in years.. I agree needs to go to Belle Vue but doesn't stop the home track advantage (Craig Cook , Stevie Worrall) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Dreadful presentation and a long drawn out meeting.....165 minutes for 22 one minute races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 (edited) Who actually prepared the track for this meeting?? Thought it was Rob Godfrey on tractor?? Did the bspa prepare the track ?? Was certainly very poor tonight.. Not seen a good plrc in years.. I agree needs to go to Belle Vue but doesn't stop the home track advantage (Craig Cook , Stevie Worrall) Â In this day and age you will never have a neutral track be it PL or EL due to all the doubling up but, Belle Vue would be my choice also, relatively central, easy enough to access and about as close to neutral nirvana, albeit in name only, as we're likely to get? Â Dreadful presentation and a long drawn out meeting.....165 minutes for 22 one minute races. Â Wow, that's horrendous, that's almost bordering on the infamous kids line, "are we nearly there yet"!! Â PS, Where are my manners, absolutely delighted to see Steady win this, after all he's been through it couldn't have gone to a better bloke, top man!! Edited September 11, 2016 by Lord Lucan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshiretyke Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Got to agree; the racing at Owlerton this and for the past couple of years has not been the best. Gotta be something to do with the silencer change over. Don't get me wrong there is still the odd belter of a race and when it happens around Sheffield, you wont see better anywhere. Â Can a track now be too fast? I only ask because looking at the track record page which granted hasn't been updated for a while; is Sheffield not the fastest track in not only Britain but the World? Average speed wise. Â Home track advantage?? Maybe.. As always this argument will never be able to sorted out; too many double up riders!! Can't take it away from Steady; a rider who last year had to be air lifted to hospital with severe injuries. He's not been the Steady of old this year for sure both home and away. It's who wanted it the most end of.. Â Last of all.. Again it was a poor racing spectacle tonight but... Am I right in seeing the main 1's that are complaining are Newcastle fans!! Leave it out boys, the racing on that track of yours is the biggest load of s**te I have ever seen of all the tracks I've been to up and down the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erniew Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 I have just got home from Sheffield and have to say I was very disappointed, The track only had one racing line and that was about 1 meter wide. Whoever gated and got to that line first won, processional races do no-one, riders or spectators any favours, as was evident later in the meeting when it was obvious that the rider in last place waited until the last lap to just shut off and coast ( Due to the high kerb It's hard to exit the track) A field of this quality rarely make mistakes and that would have been the only way any passing would have been possible. The tractors actually spent more tme on the track than the bikes did, that can't be right and is no way to encourage people to return. Sorry, as a person who has been a speedway supporter since 1961 that is the last time I will travel to Sheffield to watch 22 races where the riders gate and keep the throttle wide open for 4 laps in line astern once they have exited turn 2 on the first lap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Congrats to Simon Stead.  Spectacular race with Sam Masters in the Final.  Not the most entertaining meeting I have seen, but its a long time since I saw a PLRC that was entertaining.  Home track advantage did not come into for me lost if not all of the riders have beat Steady around Sheffield, so I don't think tink home advantage came into it.  Neutral track, very difficult to find one only two tracks that could be classed as neutral are Birmingham or Poole that could deal with large crowd.  But if you have a neutral track for this meeting you have do it for them all.  personally I would welcome all shared events going to Belle Vue.  For me the pricing of the meeting is an issue, £20 is far to much, maybe if they took the average for a Premier League match would be acceptable but to be asked to pay 25% extra to what we normally pay at Sheffield is a bit steep. Two alternative venues that have been mentioned are Belle Vue and Birmingham. Belle Vue is hardly unbiased and at Birmingham the viewing is poor and the track no better (certainly not on my visits, anyway).  I don't think there is that much home advantage and Stead is still one of the top riders in the PL. Beating Danny King at Ipswich is no mean feat (30 races unbeaten, I believe)and he did it twice on Thursday.  It really doesn't help when presenters say how fantastic meetings or races are when quite clearly they aren't. The chap at Belle Vue does that a lot and it grates. Better to say nothing at all.  It wasn't a good meeting but I'd question whether it would have been better elsewhere. Bellago proved on more than one occasion that with some serious effort you could pass; perhaps it was as much a question of effort from the riders competing than the track.  Who actually prepared the track for this meeting?? Thought it was Rob Godfrey on tractor?? Did the bspa prepare the track ?? Was certainly very poor tonight.. Not seen a good plrc in years.. I agree needs to go to Belle Vue but doesn't stop the home track advantage (Craig Cook , Stevie Worrall) Graham Trollope & Rob Godfrey were on the tractors and I suspect Trollope prepared the track.  The quite remarkable thing is he also does Scunthorpe's - which is easily the best in the country, so I am not quite sure why Sheffield has been so poor this season. Edited September 12, 2016 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Â Two alternative venues that have been mentioned are Belle Vue and Birmingham. Belle Vue is hardly unbiased and at Birmingham the viewing is poor and the track no better (certainly not on my visits, anyway). Â I don't think there is that much home advantage and Stead is still one of the top riders in the PL. Beating Danny King at Ipswich is no mean feat (30 races unbeaten, I believe)and he did it twice on Thursday. Â It really doesn't help when presenters say how fantastic meetings or races are when quite clearly they aren't. The chap at Belle Vue does that a lot and it grates. Better to say nothing at all. Â It wasn't a good meeting but I'd question whether it would have been better elsewhere. Bellago proved on more than one occasion that with some serious effort you could pass; perhaps it was as much a question of effort from the riders competing than the track. Â Â Graham Trollope & Rob Godfrey were on the tractors and I suspect Trollope prepared the track. Â The quite remarkable thing is he also does Scunthorpe's - which is easily the best in the country, so I am not quite sure why Sheffield has been so poor this season. Â Never been myself, but from seeing meetings at Scunthorpe on Sky or from reading what the fans report on here maybe the BSPA could look at taking the PLRC there. Obviously Owlerton has the off track facilities to hold a prestige's meeting, where maybe Scunthorpe hasen`t but IMO the vast majority of people go to see the on track racing which appears not to have been the best yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I don't think there is that much home advantage and Stead is still one of the top riders in the PL. Beating Danny King at Ipswich is no mean feat (30 races unbeaten, I believe)and he did it twice on Thursday. Â Only the once. Â DK won heat 1 with Stead 3rd and DK was not in heat 15. Â But Steady did ride well to win his other 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Ive not been to Sheffield for a few seasons as every time ive been its been follow my leader, looking at the field I thought it would produce good racing but sadly yet another borefest, a waste of money, should have stayed in the New Barrack Tavern myself. Given the tracks reputation its a job for mythbusters methinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceslider Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Despite the late cry offs with Lambert, Garrity and Kennett, I was really looking forward to this meeting. Pleasant day in weather terms and an excellent line up of riders competing for the trophy. Â Sorry to say it was definitely one of the worst meetings I have been to for a very very long time. To say the racing was processional is a complete understatement and it appeared to me that some of the riders were completely losing interest after 2 to 3 laps. I have never seen 4th place riders tootling around at the back so often as was evident from this meeting - almost appearing to be making a statement. Some did not even bother to complete 4 laps, retiring back to the pits before they reached the finishing line. Â Certainly won't be back for this event ever again at Sheffield! Â The new National Stadium at Belle Vue is the obvious choice to hold such meetings where there are numerous racing lines and whilst there will always be a small element of home track advantage, Belle Vue at least offers the opportunity to riders who are prepared to "give it a go" as well as the other spectator benefits with it being a new stadium with modern facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I think that's the issue with Sheffield that I could see, no one made any mistakes. It's alright during the week when Stead etc can pass second strings but as shown yesterday unless you pull out something incredible then it's just follow the leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Surprise surprise lambert is fit for tonight's meeting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Surprise surprise lambert is fit for tonight's meeting. I fail to see your point!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I fail to see your point!!! Try picking the meetings he wants to ride in !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Try picking the meetings he wants to ride in !!! Why would he not want to ride in the PLRC, he rides Sheffield well and was probably in with a chance of winning it. So you would rather he turned up to the PLRC injured and not give his best!! Suppose it would give you another reason to slag him off I guess!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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