Halifaxtiger Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Never been myself, but from seeing meetings at Scunthorpe on Sky or from reading what the fans report on here maybe the BSPA could look at taking the PLRC there. Obviously Owlerton has the off track facilities to hold a prestige's meeting, where maybe Scunthorpe hasen`t but IMO the vast majority of people go to see the on track racing which appears not to have been the best yesterday. I'd love to see it at Scunny but holding the PLRC there is just impractical as they simply don't have the facilities necessary. The restaurant carvery at Sheffield had a number of sittings yesterday (I could see Tsunami guzzling and gazing with contempt at the proletariat below ) and EWR has nothing like that. For corporate clients and sponsors, that's an additional attraction. Furthermore, Scunthorpe has raised terracing on the home straight only so round the rest of the stadium it would be poor viewing for anyone who arrived late. It can be argued that Belle Vue would make a suitable alternative but, as much as I would like it to be, Scunthorpe simply isn't. About time they had another go Sky, though. Why would he not want to ride in the PLRC, he rides Sheffield well and was probably in with a chance of winning it. So you would rather he turned up to the PLRC injured and not give his best!! Suppose it would give you another reason to slag him off I guess!!! Of course its entirely possible that he was injured yesterday and Ok today (no sarcasm, that can happen) but there will always be the suspicion that that wasn't the case, particularly when Lambert apparently said he didn't want to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Graham Trollope & Rob Godfrey were on the tractors and I suspect Trollope prepared the track. The quite remarkable thing is he also does Scunthorpe's - which is easily the best in the country, so I am not quite sure why Sheffield has been so poor this season. im convinced the more speeday i see the racing quality is down the the shape,mainly the width,this si what produces the decent racing plus with Scunnys track open alot to practice,riders know it very well which inturn gives them confidence ro ``race`` quite a shame in the end the the Premier Leagues flag ship event hasnt entertained the paying public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Finding it strange that people are having a go at Robert Lambert on here. I actually find it a refreshing change in sport that somebody has actually missed an individual meeting to recuperate for a team meeting. How many times do you see GP riders miss several meetings only to save themselves for a GP? Couldn't agree more with Montie either, regarding the shape / width of tracks. As the bikes are getting faster and faster and the way the modern bikes behave, if you want to see good racing, you need wider tracks. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 im convinced the more speeday i see the racing quality is down the the shape,mainly the width,this si what produces the decent racing plus with Scunnys track open alot to practice,riders know it very well which inturn gives them confidence ro ``race`` quite a shame in the end the the Premier Leagues flag ship event hasnt entertained the paying public You might be right..............but two other of my favourites this season have been Workington and Lakeside, and its difficult to imagine two that are more different. I'd maintain its down to preparation. That means having someone who knows what they are doing, has the time to do it, has no outside pressures (eg rider demands) and can make it the best for racing. That's why I can't understand why there is such a vast difference between Scunthorpe & Sheffield - its the same chap !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Surprise surprise lambert is fit for tonight's meeting. Resting over the weekend and missing a dead rubber and a novelty meeting so he is fit for an important league match tonight makes perfect sense to me. I don't consider that picking and choosing, just being sensible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idanthyrsus Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 A thoroughly disappointing meeting. The PLRC in 2015 was a reasonably entertaining meeting, whereas this was simply dreadful.The track was far too deep on the outside meaning that the only racing line was on the inside. Meaning pretty much all the races were a case of follow the leader with riders strung out like washing.This got much worse when after about heat 8 the racing line was about where gate three was. In the last 14 heats, Gate three won eight and came second four times.The only saving grace was that when I got there the main car park was full, so I parked around the back meaning I didn't have to fight my way out the car park with the non-existant stewards not helping one little bit...I don't know what the chaps doing the track were thinking of, but when they drove the tractors around for ages before the last two heats the track was noticeably better as the dirt on the outside was less loose and packed down a bit, resulting in easily the best two races of the night. It's a pity they weren't prepared to this earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Ive not been to Sheffield for a few seasons as every time ive been its been follow my leader, looking at the field I thought it would produce good racing but sadly yet another borefest, a waste of money, should have stayed in the New Barrack Tavern myself. Given the tracks reputation its a job for mythbusters methinks This seasons British Final at Belle Vue was also a borefest apart from One lap in the final...Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 That was defo an exception to the rule not helped by bad weather on a brand new track, since every meeting has provided great racing with numerous racing lines and passing. In response I will quote the world team cup final which is more representative of what the track produces. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Don't think you would get many complaints if the PLRC was moved to Belle Vue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Don't think you would get many complaints if the PLRC was moved to Belle Vue. What a great idea.....lets give Belle Vue everything!...Sod everyone else! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 What a great idea.....lets give Belle Vue everything!...Sod everyone else!like I said not many complaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 like I said not many complaints We only get complaints at Sheffield when a Sheffield rider wins it..No complaints when Cook,Ostergaard, Masters, Zorro won it etc...Work it out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Nobody can deny Stead his win. He deserved it. The issue with the overall poor quality of the racing is the real issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Nobody can deny Stead his win. He deserved it. The issue with the overall poor quality of the racing is the real issue. You can get poor racing in any meeting..just watch Sky or BT..Elite or GP..You get poor meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8scot Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Congratulations to Simon on winning the PLRC, he's a rider I have a lot of time for, nice lad Thanks to our Sam for keeping us happy and collecting runner up ..... but the star of the show for me was David Bellego (and the Berwick fans) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 It's several years since there was a decent PLRC at Sheffield.....time to try somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Peter Collins made some good comments about racing and the difference in machinery and track surfaces. In his day Sheffield never failed to provide anything but top class racing on a consistant basis, the past few seasons when ive visited its not been good, hence the reason I stopped going until last sunday. The track is the same shape and size as it always was so theres no reason the racing shouldn't be of a consistant high quality, tracks like Somerset, Scunthorpe, and Peterborough provide good action to name a few, Sheffield should be up there with the very best, perhaps its just down to preparation as the final on sunday underlined what it can produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 We only get complaints at Sheffield when a Sheffield rider wins it..No complaints when Cook,Ostergaard, Masters, Zorro won it etc...Work it out! I'm not complaining that a Sheffield rider won as Stead deserved it, my complaint was that the track was crap and it lead to a boring and predictable meeting. They could have taken a photo of the riders leaving the 2nd bend of the 1st lap and declared the rest based on that and it would have saved us all a couple of hours. All bar about 3 races were like that and with a field of high quality riders that should not be the case. I think with the PLRC having been at Sheffield for so long, it has gone a bit stale in my opinion, another reason for a change. I don't see what Sheffield offers that other tracks don't. Yes they have great restaurant facilities but if you going to the meeting for those reasons, then your going for the wrong reasons!! Just my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 What a great idea.....lets give Belle Vue everything!...Sod everyone else! Well, if the stories are true, BV need every £ help they can get at the moment. £300k in debt. Riders not being paid. Morton having to remortgage his house. Club up for an urgent fire sale. All stories heard in the past 48hrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Also read somewhere that Peter Collins thanked everybody at Sheffield for making him feel welcome.He says he has not been made welcome at the new Belle Vue what's the story there then!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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