Grachan Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 So we move on without Woffinden. Maybe in the future Robert Lambert or Steve Worrall becomes the top Brit. What then? Maybe the same will happen with them. This is not a new thing. We've had Lee Richardson, Scott Nicholls, Rob Lyon and now Tai all quit out of frustration. I don't know what the problem is, but it's clearly a big one. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 So we move on without Woffinden. Maybe in the future Robert Lambert or Steve Worrall becomes the top Brit. What then? Maybe the same will happen with them. This is not a new thing. We've had Lee Richardson, Scott Nicholls, Rob Lyon and now Tai all quit out of frustration. I don't know what the problem is, but it's clearly a big one. Agree, this is what I have been saying, it is no good continuing as they have if the next group of riders do not want to ride for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Adam missed out on winning the euro U21 by 1 point last year and was keen to do it again this year, especially as the final is here in France, less than 10kms from where he was born. No British riders were entered !!! just when our young riders need overseas experience this seems baffling. Did you enquire as to why, didn't Adam inform Matt Ford and Middlo that he wanted to ride in it, couldn't they act on his behalf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I think its down to money, the BSPA are pretty much skint. Things that TW wanted to have cost money and its just not there.. Speedway in the UK is, in the views of most councils a hinderence, noisey, a cause for complaints wherever a track is within 100 miles of anything representing residential.. It pollutes the water table, pollutes the atmosphere and blocks up A & E.. In Poland, that's a completely different kettle of fish, tracks/stadia are built by the govt, the running costs are subsidised by govt and rider wages part govt funded. Tracks are accessible pretty much 24/7/365.. it's also near as damn it on the schools curriculum!! If TW is only asking for a tiny bit of money from the BSPA, they just don't have it to give..... IN MY OPINION.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 (...) In Poland, (...), tracks/stadia are built by the govt, the running costs are subsidised by govt and rider wages part govt funded. Tracks are accessible pretty much 24/7/365.. I'm wondering where did you get all these info about Polish govt. subsidising speedway ? If you prove me that what you're saying is true then I'll be asking you what's stoping British govt to do the same ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Swc without Tai at least the americans will make the playoffs.. Sorry we dont have anyone who can replace him.. bspa have obviously decided to not work with him to better the teams chances for glory.. so why should he continue all he wants to do is win.. nothing wrong with that.. Although i cannot see the point for another topic.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I'm wondering where did you get all these info about Polish govt. subsidising speedway ? If you prove me that what you're saying is true then I'll be asking you what's stoping British govt to do the same ? The British Government gave Uk Cycling 30+ million quid to win these medals we are currently gaining at the olympics. The British Govt gave zip, nadda, nil to British Speedway. speedway is a far bigger sport in the uk than velodrome racing, but it is not an olympic sport with mass media coverage. Non of our speedway riders will have a sir before their name even if Woffinden wins it for the next ten years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I'm wondering where did you get all these info about Polish govt. subsidising speedway ? If you prove me that what you're saying is true then I'll be asking you what's stoping British govt to do the same ? You know, editing someone else's posts is against forum rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Non of our speedway riders will have a sir before their name even if Woffinden wins it for the next ten years.And if he did win it for the next 10 years and was awarded a knighthood you would be the first to start the thread " Should Tai Woffinden be stripped of his Knighthood for not telling me in 2016 why he wouldn't ride for team GB in 2017" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 The British Government gave Uk Cycling 30+ million quid to win these medals we are currently gaining at the olympics. The British Govt gave zip, nadda, nil to British Speedway. speedway is a far bigger sport in the uk than velodrome racing, but it is not an olympic sport with mass media coverage. Non of our speedway riders will have a sir before their name even if Woffinden wins it for the next ten years. The reason sports grants have been given to Olympic type activities is to influence and motivate some of GB's youth into participating in "everyday" activities that promote good health, excercise and begin to tackle childhood obesity. This is all part of a very long term strategy put together by the ministries of health and sport/recreation under the last two previous Governments when the dramatic increase in Diabetes became known. The medals are a means to an end in this context but in simple terms if a sport is accessible to children/young adults and participation benefits health and well being then the Government has a duty to promote it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 The reason sports grants have been given to Olympic type activities is to influence and motivate some of GB's youth into participating in "everyday" activities that promote good health, excercise and begin to tackle childhood obesity. This is all part of a very long term strategy put together by the ministries of health and sport/recreation under the last two previous Governments when the dramatic increase in Diabetes became known. The medals are a means to an end in this context but in simple terms if a sport is accessible to children/young adults and participation benefits health and well being then the Government has a duty to promote it. Agreed but it would also help to give access to those who wish to pursue their motor cycling/car interests and give them an opportunity to ride 'off road' motor bikes/cars in a controlled and organised manner rather than let loose on the highways and bye-ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmet Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 There've been other riders, & ex-World Champs, who've offer to help train British youngsters and give them the benefit of their experience, - I'm thinking of Jan O Pedersen and Erik Gundersen to start with. Each time they've been rebuffed, declined, or their offers simply ignored.So while initially I thought "Was TW getting too full of self-importance?", I'm beginning to believe it has to be the attitude of the BSPA and the individual promoters that make up that body, that just can't be bothered. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Who dictates as to what the BSPA do? Who democratically votes them in place? A governing body run by businessmen who want to make a profit from the sport in charge of how it's run...Really??? Time? Christ...how much 'Time' do you want to give them? They've flogged this sport to death over the years. Thankfully someone...a rider with a high profile, is taking action and causing waves. If no one takes any actions...it's just words again, and the same old rubbish...year after year after year. Speedway in this country needs drastic change, and it needs people like TW to take ACTION and make people take notice. Otherwise it's just words and nothing gets done. Hopefully others will follow. You mixing two different things. The leagues and then team GB, this is about GB. Tai has suggested ways of improving GBs chances in future years, he has only in the last year or two talked to the bspa about it. Far as I can see the bspa have implemented some of his recommendations like a training weekend for GB squad abroad and the Poultec academy to learn all aspects of life and racing. To implement a fitness and nutrition programme would take time and money. Things like this cannot happen over night especially if it's to be done properly. We cannot have a situation where a rider says if you don't do this, this and this I'm not riding. That's holding the governing body to ransom especially when funds are extremely limited. I entirely agree the bspa need to make huge decisions regarding the domestic leagues and have failed over a number of years. Edited August 17, 2016 by woz01 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Could always go and compete in his beloved Australia, when does their lucrative season start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Could always go and compete in his beloved Australia, when does their lucrative season start? silly comment of the topic ^^^^^^^ he has said in his press realease he has no interest for riding for Australia and in fact has been quoted he had the choice years ago to ride for them and chose the UK as he considers himself a brit. massive loss the Team GB.. shame the BSPA didnt do enough.. in fact Tai even sorted out the fitness training with his trainers etc out of his pocket.. he is trying to do so much but without the support of the BSPA he cant do anything and its the frustration of he wants a winning team GB and he isnt getting the help to help produce it.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Re the thread title . . . yes, time to move on - and stop using the dreadful title "TeamGB" and revert to OUR proper name, Great Britain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 silly comment of the topic ^^^^^^^ he has said in his press realease he has no interest for riding for Australia and in fact has been quoted he had the choice years ago to ride for them and chose the UK as he considers himself a brit. massive loss the Team GB.. shame the BSPA didnt do enough.. in fact Tai even sorted out the fitness training with his trainers etc out of his pocket.. he is trying to do so much but without the support of the BSPA he cant do anything and its the frustration of he wants a winning team GB and he isnt getting the help to help produce it.. This issue has nothing to do with the BSPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 This issue has nothing to do with the BSPA. you sound pretty sure on that.. like to give us some proof the SS ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 No, we need tai to move forward. But tai needs to understand we are not Poland. We just have to fight that little harder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 I'm wondering where did you get all these info about Polish govt. subsidising speedway ? If you prove me that what you're saying is true then I'll be asking you what's stoping British govt to do the same ? Tell us who owns the land that the stadiums are built on, who funds the stadium rebuilds, where does all the money come from in Polish speedway? silly comment of the topic ^^^^^^^ he has said in his press realease he has no interest for riding for Australia and in fact has been quoted he had the choice years ago to ride for them and chose the UK as he considers himself a brit. massive loss the Team GB.. shame the BSPA didnt do enough.. in fact Tai even sorted out the fitness training with his trainers etc out of his pocket.. he is trying to do so much but without the support of the BSPA he cant do anything and its the frustration of he wants a winning team GB and he isnt getting the help to help produce it.. Can u ask Tai why he didn't just email the riders to tell them about the fitness tests that he'd set up rather than doing it through the BSPA? Wouldn't they have jumped at the chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.