Time For Teamgb To Move On Without Woffinden.

[Steve Shovlar]

Tai Woffinden has today issued a press release stating he will not be riding for TeamGB in 2017. After snubbing the EL this season, and only returning due to a lack of fixtures abroad, questions need to be asked.

 

Does British Speedway need Tai Woffinden?

 

Does TeamGB need Woffinden?

 

Does Woffinden think he is bigger than British Speedway?

 

Personally, I believe it's time we moved on without him. Just like Kevin Pietersen and English Cricket, he might be the best, but the game still continues with others taking his place.

 

From what I have been told from various and reliable sources, it was not harmonious in the TeamGB camp, even though Rosco did his absolute best. Trying to get the team to go out together was a problem, as well as pizza for the mechanics.

 

Yes he is currently World Champion and our best rider. But in his statement he says he is not riding in 2017 and may consider a return the following season. Excuse me? Is he the team manager now?

 

I know this is a difficult situation for Rosco but I would say enough is enough. Bring in young British riders who are desperate to represent their country. Bates, Ellis, Garrity, Worrall would have done anything to have ridden in Manchester. Sure we will fail. So what? Learning from failure brings success. We should not be dictated to by a rider not bothered to ride in this country anyway!

 

Does TeamGB need Woffinden? Hell no, blood the youngsters. The support from the fans will be there regardless.

 

So does British Speedway need Tai Woffinden? Not in my opinion. Shame he is coming back to mess up what has been quite an exciting season ( and I mean this with no disrespect whatsoever to Wolverhampton who have done nothing wrong)

 

Does he think he is bigger than British Speedway? Clearly by his statement, with a might be back, might not.

 

It is utterly frustrating when Britain has a two times world champion and there have been zero benefits for our Speedway nation.

Edited August 16, 2016 by Steve Shovlar

[Gavan]

and the award for completely missing the point goes to........................................

 

Of course TeamGB needs Woffinden would a load of old tosh to think otherwise!!!

 

He is totally frustrated at the lack of support he gets from the powers that be.

 

Im sure the 3 or 4 regular Tai haters and bashers will be along in a bit

 

And why the need to start a thread about it???

 

Its being covered in the other thread about Tai

 

Some people just love their name in lights

Edited August 16, 2016 by Gavan

[Star Lady]

Tai Woffinden has today issued a press release stating he will not be riding for TeamGB in 2017. After snubbing the EL this season, and only returning due to a lack of fixtures abroad, questions need to be asked.

 

Does British Speedway need Tai Woffinden?

 

Quite honestly no. Even if he had ridden EL all this season it wouldn't have solved the problems. They are far bigger than one rider.

 

Does TeamGB need Woffinden?

We are not going to win anything at present because we have so few riders at the top so it makes sense to accept that and concentrate on the next tier of riders coming thro.

Does Woffinden think he is bigger than British Speedway?

 

Yes. Judging by his wording he seems to think he is indispensable.

 

Personally, I believe it's time we moved on without him. Just like Kevin Pietersen and English Cricket, he might be the best, but the game still continues with ithers taking his place.

 

Won't be popular with some but I tend to agree

 

From what I have been told from various and reliable sources, it was not harmonious in the TeamGB camp, even though Rosco did his absolute best. Trying to get the team to go out together was a problem, as well as pizza for the mechanics.

 

Yes he is currently World Champion and our best rider. But in his statement he says he is not riding in 2017 and may consider a return the following season. Excuse me? Is he the team manager now?

 

Says a lot about his attitude and I cannot believe that others in Team GB are totally comfortable with it as it infers they are basically riding on his coat tails and there to make the numbers up.

I know this is a difficult situation for Rosco but I would say enough is enough. Bring in young British riders who are desperate to represent their country. Bates, Ellis, Garrity, Worrall would have done anything to have ridden in Manchester. Sure we will fail. So what? Learning from failure brings success. We should not be dictated to by a rider not bothered to ride in this country anyway!

 

Spot on

 

Does TeamGB need Woffinden? Hell no, blood the youngsters. The support from the fans will be there regardless.

 

Apart from a stubborn few

 

So does British Speedway need Tai Woffinden? Not in my opinion. Shame he is coming back to mess up what has been quite an exciting season ( and I mean this with no disrespect whatsoever to Wolverhampton who have done nothing wrong)

 

Does he think he is bigger than British Speedway? Clearly by his statement, with a might be back might not.

 

It is utterly frustrating when Britain has a two times world champion and there have been zero benefits for our Speedway nation.

 

 

Edited August 16, 2016 by Star Lady

[tyretrax]

More band width wasted by Stirlady.

[sparkafag]

I appreciate it is neither here nor there but the notion that chucking in a side with Bates, Ellis, Garrity and Worrall (no disrespect)will lead to success is off centre.

 

If the general idea is that Team GB moves forward without Woffinden and Lambert, then a section of fans need to accept the chances of race offs and Finals is pretty slim for the foreseeable future.

Edited August 16, 2016 by The Mockingjay

[Gresham]

TW probably is bigger than British Speedway...that's why he doesn't need it.

 

British Speedway is pretty worthless these days...nothing to be proud of. Ruined by a bunch of Promotors who seem clueless at promoting the sport and at loggerheads as to how they want speedway run in this country.

 

Why can't people see the bigger picture.

 

The people who run British speedway are killing it.

 

It's obvious TW wants the best for the sport in this country. It's obviously so frustrating when you want to do things to improve it, and can see ways of doing it, but those who run the sport are to damn stupid to see it....or see it, but don't want to.

 

It's ok for the fan to say, he 'owes' British Speedway and he should be proud to ride for his country.

 

That's all well and good in a perfect world.

 

But would you want to represent a body of people who run the sport, that you feel are ruining it?

 

Why would you want to represent something you don't believe in anymore, just because it has a flag attached to it?

 

Speedway in this country has been dragging it's feet for years...that's why it's in the sorry state it is.

 

People seem to just let it happen...moan about it on forums and such like, but never take any positive action.

 

Lemmings...following for the sake of it.

 

Changes need to be made...actions speak louder than words and 'statements'.

 

I'm glad he's stuck two fingers up to them tbh...why support a bunch of idiots killing the sport you love?

 

Representing them, would be hypocritical if you don't agree with what they are doing or not doing.

 

I feel the same way, when I'm paying my money and traveling to watch a sport that I love...but stand there frustrated at all the bollocks I'm witnessing before my eyes.

 

I'm paying into something I don't agree with how it's being run...how foolish are we for all doing it.

 

We only do it, because we know Clubs would close, and would struggle to re open. It's a catch 22....and the Promotors know this...that's why they do the minimum.

[chris4gillian]

Tai Woffinden has today issued a press release stating he will not be riding for TeamGB in 2017. After snubbing the EL this season, and only returning due to a lack of fixtures abroad, questions need to be asked.

 

Does British Speedway need Tai Woffinden?

 

Does TeamGB need Woffinden?

 

Does Woffinden think he is bigger than British Speedway?

 

Personally, I believe it's time we moved on without him. Just like Kevin Pietersen and English Cricket, he might be the best, but the game still continues with others taking his place.

 

From what I have been told from various and reliable sources, it was not harmonious in the TeamGB camp, even though Rosco did his absolute best. Trying to get the team to go out together was a problem, as well as pizza for the mechanics.

 

Yes he is currently World Champion and our best rider. But in his statement he says he is not riding in 2017 and may consider a return the following season. Excuse me? Is he the team manager now?

 

I know this is a difficult situation for Rosco but I would say enough is enough. Bring in young British riders who are desperate to represent their country. Bates, Ellis, Garrity, Worrall would have done anything to have ridden in Manchester. Sure we will fail. So what? Learning from failure brings success. We should not be dictated to by a rider not bothered to ride in this country anyway!

 

Does TeamGB need Woffinden? Hell no, blood the youngsters. The support from the fans will be there regardless.

 

So does British Speedway need Tai Woffinden? Not in my opinion. Shame he is coming back to mess up what has been quite an exciting season ( and I mean this with no disrespect whatsoever to Wolverhampton who have done nothing wrong)

 

Does he think he is bigger than British Speedway? Clearly by his statement, with a might be back, might not.

 

It is utterly frustrating when Britain has a two times world champion and there have been zero benefits for our Speedway nation.

 

OMG, you really do love yourself don't you. Why create yet another Tai thread??? Utterly pointless.

 

Oh and who are these reliable sources? I could very easily claim the opposite.

 

So not only do you feel British speedway doesn't need Tai You are also calling Rosco a complete and utter liar with his comments he made during the SGP at the weekend. Really? REALLY?

[Woz01]

I believe Tai wants the BSPA to do what he wants, a rider shouldn't be allowed to dictate. Practice sessions abroad for the GB riders and training sessions for youngsters which Tai wanted have been implemented by the bspa in the last year or two. Things take time to develop and put in place. Tai cannot expect everything he wants to happen. The bspa cannot be held to ransom like that.

[chris4gillian]

TW probably is bigger than British Speedway...that's why he doesn't need it.

 

British Speedway is pretty worthless these days...nothing to be proud of. Ruined by a bunch of Promotors who seem clueless at promoting the sport and at loggerheads as to how they want speedway run in this country.

 

Why can't people see the bigger picture.

 

The people who run British speedway are killing it.

 

It's obvious TW wants the best for the sport in this country. It's obviously so frustrating when you want to do things to improve it, and can see ways of doing it, but those who run the sport are to damn stupid to see it....or see it, but don't want to.

 

It's ok for the fan to say, he 'owes' British Speedway and he should be proud to ride for his country.

 

That's all well and good in a perfect world.

 

But would you want to represent a body of people who run the sport, that you feel are ruining it?

 

Why would you want to represent something you don't believe in anymore, just because it has a flag attached to it?

 

Speedway in this country has been dragging it's feet for years...that's why it's in the sorry state it is.

 

People seem to just let it happen...moan about it on forums and such like, but never take any positive action.

 

Lemmings...following for the sake of it.

 

Changes need to be made...actions speak louder than words and 'statements'.

 

I'm glad he's stuck two fingers up to them tbh...why support a bunch of idiots killing the sport you love?

 

Representing them, would be hypocritical if you don't agree with what they are doing or not doing.

 

I feel the same way, when I'm paying my money and traveling to watch a sport that I love...but stand there frustrated at all the bollocks I'm witnessing before my eyes.

 

I'm paying into something I don't agree with how it's being run...how foolish are we for all doing it.

 

We only do it, because we know Clubs would close, and would struggle to re open. It's a catch 22....and the Promotors know this...that's why they do the minimum.

 

Another spot on post Gresham. If only some of the other forum members were open to the bigger picture than what they envisage in their tiny worlds.

and the award for completely missing the point goes to........................................

 

Of course TeamGB needs Woffinden would a load of old tosh to think otherwise!!!

 

He is totally frustrated at the lack of support he gets from the powers that be.

 

Im sure the 3 or 4 regular Tai haters and bashers will be along in a bit

 

And why the need to start a thread about it???

 

Its being covered in the other thread about Tai

 

Some people just love their name in lights

 

For the benefit of SS

[Star Lady]

And tyre trax accused me of wasting bandwidth

[Gresham]

I believe Tai wants the BSPA to do what he wants, a rider shouldn't be allowed to dictate. Practice sessions abroad for the GB riders and training sessions for youngsters which Tai wanted have been implemented by the bspa in the last year or two. Things take time to develop and put in place. Tai cannot expect everything he wants to happen. The bspa cannot be held to ransom like that.

Who dictates as to what the BSPA do?

 

Who democratically votes them in place?

 

A governing body run by businessmen who want to make a profit from the sport in charge of how it's run...Really???

 

Time? Christ...how much 'Time' do you want to give them? They've flogged this sport to death over the years.

 

Thankfully someone...a rider with a high profile, is taking action and causing waves.

 

If no one takes any actions...it's just words again, and the same old rubbish...year after year after year.

 

Speedway in this country needs drastic change, and it needs people like TW to take ACTION and make people take notice. Otherwise it's just words and nothing gets done. Hopefully others will follow.

[Sidney the robin]

It sounds silly but maybe something good could come out of this.I am with Woffinden on this i am sure he has give them every chance to change certain things with nothing happening.Speedway in this country has been a joke for god knows how long, nearly all of my lifetime.We still go because we love the sport and we plod on and still keep turning up.If Tai can make some waves maybe things might change but i would not hold my breath though hope i am wrong though.

Edited August 16, 2016 by Sidney the robin

[Steve Shovlar]

I appreciate it is neither here nor there but the notion that chucking in a side with Bates, Ellis, Garrity and Worrall (no disrespect)will lead to success is off centre.

 

If the general idea is that Team GB moves forward without Woffinden and Lambert, then a section of fans need to accept the chances of race offs and Finals is pretty slim for the foreseeable future.

 

Agree with that but with or without Woffinden we are not going to win it for the foreseeable future. Blood the youngsters. Watch them develop. Its happening already with several good young British riders coming through. Yes we are miles behind the Poles but stick them in next year. No harm done and plenty to gain.

 

I believe Tai wants the BSPA to do what he wants, a rider shouldn't be allowed to dictate. Practice sessions abroad for the GB riders and training sessions for youngsters which Tai wanted have been implemented by the bspa in the last year or two. Things take time to develop and put in place. Tai cannot expect everything he wants to happen. The bspa cannot be held to ransom like that.

Absolutely. And here's a point that many have missed. The BSPA are not actually dripping in money. So where is all this money that Woffinden obviously wants them to spend, going to come from? How will fans feel if we turn up to a league meeting and the price has risen to £25, the extra going towards the TeamGB training camp. Don't think fans would be too impressed. They already moan at £17.

 

And really, what benefits do BSPA members actually get out of TeamGB winning the SWC? Will it bring hundreds of extra fans through the Lakeside turnstiles when they are riding against Leicester? No of course not. Promoters don't want to spend what money they have on something some might see as a worthless cause.

[RPNY]

I think you are missing the point. BSPA treat their riders like sht, even Bomber was fuming this year that he was made to ride in a qualifier which left him with no travel time for the GP. If they continue to do this no top rider will ride in Britain or want to compete in the SWC. Lamberts already had a lot of run ins with them and he's 18!

Edited August 16, 2016 by RPNYC

[Countershaftcounter]

Philip Rising is always coming on here with his "I know something you don't" cryptic posts, he talks about his chats with Kelvin, he's the perfect person to put the record straight on what's going on. I mean knowing all that info but keeping schtum would be just as bad as spreading falsehoods no?

[pugwash]

What's the point of all this? Does it really matter? SWC is a total joke: Home nation seeded to final, double point jokers, same couple teams winning it.

Needs a complete new brush with cash input from BSI/TV companies/Sponsors placed for the betterment of overall team improvement. These people want to capitalise on the competition so make 'em cough up.

No point looking for BSPA to fund it, they haven't got a pot to piss in, sold their rights to cash in on it for a bag of gold years ago.

[Jonny the spud]

I think you are missing the point. BSPA treat their riders like sht, even Bomber was fuming this year that he was made to ride in a qualifier which left him with no travel time for the GP. If they continue to do this no top rider will ride in Britain or want to compete in the SWC. Lamberts already had a lot of run ins with them and he's 18!

 

Adam missed out on winning the euro U21 by 1 point last year and was keen to do it again this year, especially as the final is here in France, less than 10kms from where he was born. No British riders were entered !!! just when our young riders need overseas experience this seems baffling.

[Dornier]

Don`t think any rider is bigger than the BSPA. Riders like Woffenden and Nicholls who withhold there services and want to come into the team when THEY want to shouldn`t be chosen again for Team GB. stick with the riders who really want to be in the team theres no room for Prima Donnas in a team.

Edited August 16, 2016 by dornier

[mrlincolncity]

Tai Woffinden has today issued a press release stating he will not be riding for TeamGB in 2017. After snubbing the EL this season, and only returning due to a lack of fixtures abroad, questions need to be asked.

 

Does British Speedway need Tai Woffinden?

 

Does TeamGB need Woffinden?

 

Does Woffinden think he is bigger than British Speedway?

 

Personally, I believe it's time we moved on without him. Just like Kevin Pietersen and English Cricket, he might be the best, but the game still continues with others taking his place.

 

From what I have been told from various and reliable sources, it was not harmonious in the TeamGB camp, even though Rosco did his absolute best. Trying to get the team to go out together was a problem, as well as pizza for the mechanics.

 

Yes he is currently World Champion and our best rider. But in his statement he says he is not riding in 2017 and may consider a return the following season. Excuse me? Is he the team manager now?

 

I know this is a difficult situation for Rosco but I would say enough is enough. Bring in young British riders who are desperate to represent their country. Bates, Ellis, Garrity, Worrall would have done anything to have ridden in Manchester. Sure we will fail. So what? Learning from failure brings success. We should not be dictated to by a rider not bothered to ride in this country anyway!

 

Does TeamGB need Woffinden? Hell no, blood the youngsters. The support from the fans will be there regardless.

 

So does British Speedway need Tai Woffinden? Not in my opinion. Shame he is coming back to mess up what has been quite an exciting season ( and I mean this with no disrespect whatsoever to Wolverhampton who have done nothing wrong)

 

Does he think he is bigger than British Speedway? Clearly by his statement, with a might be back, might not.

 

It is utterly frustrating when Britain has a two times world champion and there have been zero benefits for our Speedway nation.

 

cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo

 

does british speedway need tai woffinden is the best bit....... bless ya steve, what days do they let you go out mate

Don't understand any of you saying we don't need TW, or words to that effect, course we do, hes one of the if not, the best rider in the world!! Why not get behind him?

Whats he done wrong?

Not ride in the uk "elite" league, that frankly is anything but "elite"

Why would you if you can earn bucket loads without? I wouldn't, not for peanuts, no chance would I

And why do some of you suggest he dosnt caree or want to ride for teamGB? Have you not listened or read what Tai has said?

Clearly not

This country has dropped so so far behind the rest of the speedway nations its unbelievable, only in british speedway would the sports governing body stick 2 fingers up to its best riders!!!

tinpot

don't bother replying cos I don't come on much, and I doubt il be on to see you cry at my message

I'm not arsed tbh what your opinions are, similar to Tai, no wonder hes given up, half of you cant support british speedway, even though you are british.

like iv said

only in speedway

[New Science]

At the end of the day if we need to move on without Woffinden then so be it, Nobody can force him to ride.Lets hope the BSPA can continue to implement plans,and make changes to support Team GB.in the future. Sure we may not be as potent force without Tai ,but felt next year we will struggle anyway Woffinden or not , having to go through qualifiers and an overseas round. Hopefully the remainder of this years squad and the young riders we have will see it as an incentive to represent GB in the World Cup. I will support them whatever the side Rosco picks. Yes not having Tai Woffinden is a big loss, for GB and the World Cup as a whole, but what can you do ?

Edited August 16, 2016 by New Science