tyretrax Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Don't reply to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 What over the top expenses. Tai funded his own World Cup campaign. He was paid zero expenses. I guess tai lived the closest in team GB to the track so his traveling expenses wasn't much anyway for the BSPA or whoever to pay. Does tai really have a problem with the BSPA seeing he works for senior one I think you need to look at image rights and appearance money as that may lead to the problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 I guess tai lived the closest in team GB to the track so his traveling expenses wasn't much anyway for the BSPA or whoever to pay. Does tai really have a problem with the BSPA seeing he works for senior one I think you need to look at image rights and appearance money as that may lead to the problems. I never mentioned his relationship with the BSPA. I said that he had not claimed any expenses and fund his own World Cup campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) As far as I'm aware only two have said it....yourself and Orion and you both look like 's And before you start, that is an acceptable term on this forum and a term I've never seen Gavan use - he prefers to use stronger (and justified in many cases, not always though to be fair) terms. Actually to be fair Chris it is quite a few people. May I add I am a Tai Woffinden fan and whilst some of his ethics could be questioned his heart and his passion certainly cannot be with the money he has raised for charity and for what he did for the little lady at the S.W.C and other things he has done in my opinion which is why I like his silent type protest and I can't blame him if other riders and Rob Lyon has given up on the BSPA. Regardless and I apologise if proved wrong but I still think chris4gillian and Gavan are the same person and I think about ten people do to. Reasons why are: 1) I fell out with Gavan over an argument many times and had to report him for the abuse and had never spoken to chris4gillian but one day I was praising Tai and chris4gillian attacked my post in a Gavan-esque way and I had never spoken to him or said a bad word about Tai. Why? No idea. 2) Agree with orion and Pinny as you can see on other threads that chris4gillian and Gavan both post similar paragraph, with similar type spacing and wordings but with slight disguise and for a long life Poole supporter, I never see any reports or comments about how Poole do when they win etc apart from an argument with Poole fans. This could be proven if a Poole fan would meet chris4gillian. 3)Gavan has probably been reported several times and could be on a last few warnings and would need another account in case he got removed and a life long Poole fan would be an excellent disguise to use the Poole thread more often to argue with them etc etc. No idea why. 4) Finally, they always seem to post 20 minutes after each other about complaining that they are the same person. Surely you wouldn't get so easily riled and annoyed but just laugh it off if you were accused of being the same person but it hasn't been dealt with very well if they aren't the same person. To be honest, I couldn't care less like I couldn't care that John Leslie is Darcys Onion or whatever but I am happy to apologise to Gavan or chris4gillian if I am proven incorrect. I just really want to talk about speedway Edited August 24, 2016 by Joe Beevers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) robert72 is the biggest Tai hater on this forum so you (like many of us) should ignore anything he says with regards to Tai. He knows jack no matter what he claims. Although I did comment on his post, I don't need Robert72 to tell me what to think about Tai's decision, not that I necessarily put that decision down to expenses, nor do I need telling who's posts I should treat as credible on a given subject. The point is more that, with virtually just an 'I quit' announcement, people will draw their own (right or wrong) conclusions and R72 isn't the only person out there deciding that could be the reason. Edited August 24, 2016 by Vincent Blackshadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 robert72 is the biggest Tai hater on this forum so you (like many of us) should ignore anything he says with regards to Tai. He knows jack no matter what he claims. I don't think he hates him, I don't think any true speedway fans, hate any riders... Now respecting riders, is another issue completely, you can not hate someone, but not respect them.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Actually to be fair Chris it is quite a few people. May I add I am a Tai Woffinden fan and whilst some of his ethics could be questioned his heart and his passion certainly cannot be with the money he has raised for charity and for what he did for the little lady at the S.W.C and other things he has done in my opinion which is why I like his silent type protest and I can't blame him if other riders and Rob Lyon has given up on the BSPA. Regardless and I apologise if proved wrong but I still think chris4gillian and Gavan are the same person and I think about ten people do to. Reasons why are: 1) I fell out with Gavan over an argument many times and had to report him for the abuse and had never spoken to chris4gillian but one day I was praising Tai and chris4gillian attacked my post in a Gavan-esque way and I had never spoken to him or said a bad word about Tai. Why? No idea. 2) Agree with orion and Pinny as you can see on other threads that chris4gillian and Gavan both post similar paragraph, with similar type spacing and wordings but with slight disguise and for a long life Poole supporter, I never see any reports or comments about how Poole do when they win etc apart from an argument with Poole fans. This could be proven if a Poole fan would meet chris4gillian. 3)Gavan has probably been reported several times and could be on a last few warnings and would need another account in case he got removed and a life long Poole fan would be an excellent disguise to use the Poole thread more often to argue with them etc etc. No idea why. 4) Finally, they always seem to post 20 minutes after each other about complaining that they are the same person. Surely you wouldn't get so easily riled and annoyed but just laugh it off if you were accused of being the same person but it hasn't been dealt with very well if they aren't the same person. To be honest, I couldn't care less like I couldn't care that John Leslie is Darcys Onion or whatever but I am happy to apologise to Gavan or chris4gillian if I am proven incorrect. I just really want to talk about speedway Whilst I did initially 'laugh things off' I'm starting to get really annoyed as there's only so many times a false accusation will be tolerated. This is not within the forum rules. From now onwards all posts accusing me of being someone I'm not will be reported. I don't think he hates him, I don't think any true speedway fans, hate any riders... Now respecting riders, is another issue completely, you can not hate someone, but not respect them.. If you had been following other Tai threads you would have seen differently for yourself. Have a shufty at the now locked 'Should Tai ride for Team GB' thread, you may change your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Anyone seen darcy wards comment on a post about tai of the speedway friends Facebook page. I've not seen it but I hear he as made a telling comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Whilst I did initially 'laugh things off' I'm starting to get really annoyed as there's only so many times a false accusation will be tolerated. This is not within the forum rules. From now onwards all posts accusing me of being someone I'm not will be reported. That is totally understandable. An easier way would surely be to meet a Poole fan you like or get on with on the forum or at least tolerate and there are plenty of Poole fans on here. Then you are vouched for by the fan on the forum and you prove the doubters wrong plus you meet another Pirate fan to talk too,so in my opinion it can only be a win win situation. Anyone seen darcy wards comment on a post about tai of the speedway friends Facebook page. I've not seen it but I hear he as made a telling comment Unfortunately no as not on Facebook. Is there a link or can someone please explain the gist of his post in regards to Tai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 I've not seen the post. Someone was going on about it. I'm blocked from that Facebook page so can't see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 I've read one comment from DW and to be honest on first reading thought Darcy may have misread the article at the top of the page. There again he probably knows more about the ins and outs of the sport than most. So basically I'm back to where I was. None the wiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 I've read one comment from DW and to be honest on first reading thought Darcy may have misread the article at the top of the page. There again he probably knows more about the ins and outs of the sport than most. So basically I'm back to where I was. None the wiser. i wont read too much into that.. although he will probably hear a lot of hear say as much as anyone although some promoters may have said something to him.. but i am pretty sure Tai will take that up with darcy himself if he reads it that is !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 i wont read too much into that.. although he will probably hear a lot of hear say as much as anyone although some promoters may have said something to him.. but i am pretty sure Tai will take that up with darcy himself if he reads it that is !!! I'm not reading anything into it as I said. Simply wanted to put the record straight as I thought Phil The Ace's post implied that he had been told there was something negative posted, I simply didn't see it that way. I know that doesn't really fit a "Tai Haters" agenda but that's how I saw it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Whilst I did initially 'laugh things off' I'm starting to get really annoyed as there's only so many times a false accusation will be tolerated. This is not within the forum rules. From now onwards all posts accusing me of being someone I'm not will be reported. You and Gavan both love reporting people that don't follow your views, bully tactics is also against the rules but that doesn't bother you and gavan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Is there a link or can someone please explain the gist of his post in regards to Tai. This is what I found coming from a Facebook account of Darcy Ward. Can't believe I'm reading this. He got paid n was asking for more money. Wtf Read it how you will. The original post was this - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1166764700013299&set=gm.1341219792555440&type=3&theater 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) But of course it could not be the 'real' Darcy Ward so we are none the wiser. Lives in Poole ~ well he doesn't does he? Edited August 25, 2016 by Gemini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 But of course it could not be the 'real' Darcy Ward so we are none the wiser. You aren't suggesting it's another alias of Gavan or Chris4gillian are you 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 That is totally understandable. An easier way would surely be to meet a Poole fan you like or get on with on the forum or at least tolerate and there are plenty of Poole fans on here. Then you are vouched for by the fan on the forum and you prove the doubters wrong plus you meet another Pirate fan to talk too,so in my opinion it can only be a win win situation. Unfortunately no as not on Facebook. Is there a link or can someone please explain the gist of his post in regards to Tai. I regularly post on the official Poole forum using the exact same name...feel free to pop over to see for yourself. I have plenty of fellow supports over there who know me very well as I've been on there for years. I also initiated the PVC many years ago (something which you won't understand) and only long term Poole forum members will know what that is. starman (also a regular poster on the Poole forum - and yes he gets just as much stick there too!!) knows I'm not Gavan but I wouldn't expect him to pipe up for me as we've locked horns on both forums many times. Dazzafl also knows I'm not Gavan as we've recently had a private message exchange. Maybe you could confirm this Dazzafl so this ridiculous accusation can be put to bed ponce and for all!?! Very few Poole forum members post on the BSF for many reasons and the current stupidity over Gavan and I only emphasises why!! I shouldn't need to prove myself on here or anywhere else and I will continue reporting all posts which infer I am somebody else. I've also never had a forum warning or been banned. You and Gavan both love reporting people that don't follow your views, bully tactics is also against the rules but that doesn't bother you and gavan. I have never reported anyone until now as I'm a very firm believer in freedom of speech, so I have no idea (yet again) what you're banging on about. To date I have reported two forum members for continual insinuations that I am some body else and I will report others that do the same. You yourself were recently banned for abuse, name calling and other forum violations so I'd keep quiet on this topic if I were you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 I think reporting it is a bit OTT, if it is untrue is it even worth acknowledging on any level? Just leave them to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) Anyone seen darcy wards comment on a post about tai of the speedway friends Facebook page. I've not seen it but I hear he as made a telling comment Just been on that page and I can't see any comments from Darcy at all let alone posting something about Tai. Someone has posted a newspaper article about Tai and him racing for free in the SWC with quotes from Tai too. Edited to acknowledge TheReturn's post above. As I say, I didn't see any post from Darcy but it seems it's there somewhere. Just looked closer and it most certainly IS there. Post 3 under said article!! Edited August 25, 2016 by chris4gillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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