Steve Shovlar Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) I haven't called anyone anything... I have explained what I feel and why until I'm blue in the face, you bandwogoners just refuse to consider anything other than constant berating, for to be perfectly honest rather silly reasons. If constantly saying "I see Tai for what he is.." makes you feel better then carry on posting it. I on the other hand appreciate what Tai has done for UK speedway and Team GB during the past 3 or 4 years, without him we would be even further behind the bigger nations than we are now. Yes he could do some of the things he has in a more professional manner, however he obviously wears his heart on his sleeve and doesn't think before speaking. Most of us suffer from that from time to time too!! If you're happy to carry on watching British speedway fall further and further behind Poland, Sweden, Denmark and even Russia these days then that's fine, however Tai obviously felt he had something to offer to assist with progress in this country but that hasn't been embraced by the powers that be. Why should he continue to ride his arse off when we have absolutely no-one who can give him some back up as he's so far ahead of everyone else in the UK it's ridiculous?!? I also find it rather amusing that many on here are saying 'good riddance' etc. etc. I don't think you'll be saying that hen we get an embarrassing thumping from one of the minor nations in next years SWC. How can that be positive in any way shape or form? In fact getting such a tonking will only have a negative effect on those that do in fact turn out for Team GB. It makes no difference whether he rides for TeamGB or not. At this moment in time we won't win it. Woffinden just doesn't help himself. He comes across very poorly and thinks there's an I in team. Certainly didn't like being told a few home truths at the SWC where he threw his toys out of the pram. You say why should he continue riding his arse off when the others are so far behind? It's called being a team member. Does Chris Froome think this with the rest of TeamSky? A ridiculous statement for you to make. He was taken down a peg or three for wearing that suit at the SWC when the rest of the team were in official TeamGB gear. There may be no I in team but there is 'me' I guess. Woffinden is head snd shoulders above other British riders but there us no way he should be able to demand anything. Perhaps his ideas are not good ideas, or they are cost prohibitive. His demand for £9000 in expenses for the SWC were far too excessive for the BSPA anyway. We currently have a British world champion for the next few weeks but British Speedway has not anything out of it. His failure to want to ride in the league that taught him his trade is bad enough. To come back and use it when the Swedish League has ended is selfish in the extreme. A real shame as he has done excellent charity work but is probably the least popular British speedway world champion ever. Edited August 22, 2016 by Steve Shovlar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) I haven't called anyone anything... I have explained what I feel and why until I'm blue in the face, you bandwogoners just refuse to consider anything other than constant berating, for to be perfectly honest rather silly reasons. If constantly saying "I see Tai for what he is.." makes you feel better then carry on posting it. I on the other hand appreciate what Tai has done for UK speedway and Team GB during the past 3 or 4 years, without him we would be even further behind the bigger nations than we are now. Yes he could do some of the things he has in a more professional manner, however he obviously wears his heart on his sleeve and doesn't think before speaking. Most of us suffer from that from time to time too!! If you're happy to carry on watching British speedway fall further and further behind Poland, Sweden, Denmark and even Russia these days then that's fine, however Tai obviously felt he had something to offer to assist with progress in this country but that hasn't been embraced by the powers that be. Why should he continue to ride his arse off when we have absolutely no-one who can give him some back up as he's so far ahead of everyone else in the UK it's ridiculous?!? I also find it rather amusing that many on here are saying 'good riddance' etc. etc. I don't think you'll be saying that hen we get an embarrassing thumping from one of the minor nations in next years SWC. How can that be positive in any way shape or form? In fact getting such a tonking will only have a negative effect on those that do in fact turn out for Team GB. If he wears his heart on his sleeve then how come he can't put this dispute out in the open. If he is standing down from Team GB then out the BSPA for what you believe they are, outline your plans / suggestions that you have submitted and tell us your frustration as to why they are not been followed through and let us the fans decide. Or for someone who is so outspoken you can decide to hide behind a wall of silence or the odd cryptic tweet leading to more confusion and resentment Edited August 22, 2016 by New Science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) It makes no difference whether he rides for TeamGB or not. At this moment in time we won't win it. Woffinden just doesn't help himself. He comes across very poorly and thinks there's an I in team. Certainly didn't like being told a few home truths at the SWC where he threw his toys out of the pram. You say why should he continue riding his arse off when the others are so far behind? It's called being a team member. Does Chris Froome think this with the rest of TeamSky? A ridiculous statement for you to make. He was taken down a peg or three for wearing that suit at the SWC when the rest of the team were in official TeamGB gear. There may be no I in team but there is 'me' I guess. Woffinden is head snd shoulders above other British riders but there us no way he should be able to demand anything. Perhaps his ideas are not good ideas, or they are cost prohibitive. His demand for £9000 in expenses for the SWC were far too excessive for the BSPA anyway. We currently have a British world champion for the next few weeks but British Speedway has not anything out of it. His failure to want to ride in the league that taught him his trade is bad enough. To come back and use it when the Swedish League has ended is selfish in the extreme. A real shame as he has done excellent charity work but is probably the least popular British speedway world champion ever. No we won't win it...but we came damn close this year for one reason and one reason only...Tai Woffinden!!! So it DOES make a difference if he rides for Team GB. Come on, even you can comprehend that. The SWC will be a very embarrassing week for Team GB in 2017 for which there is no doubt. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if we pulled out as the quality on show will get battered. Oh and I think you'll find about 35,000 people at Cardiff every year disagree with your final statement, it's just a handful on here who voice otherwise. So 35,000 v a handful If he wears his heart on his sleeve then how come he can't put this dispute out in the open. If he is standing down from Team GB then out the BSPA for what you believe they are, outline your plans / suggestions that you have submitted and tell us your frustration as to why they are not been followed through and let us the fans decide. Or for someone who is so outspoken you can decide to hide behind a wall of silence or the odd cryptic tweet leading to more confusion and resentment Tai has stated that he's not riding for Team GB in 2017 and made known that he has some kind of difference of opinion with the BSPA over a number of things. Why do we need to know more? Why do we have the right to know more? We don't and it's his prerogative to tell 'us' what he wants 'us' to know. The BSPA have the same option open to them, however as always they've remained silent. Why don't you lobby them for answers??? Edited August 22, 2016 by chris4gillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 This thread has completely and utterly proved that gavan and chris gillian are the same person. Hilarious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) No we won't win it...but we came damn close this year for one reason and one reason only...Tai Woffinden!!! So it DOES make a difference if he rides for Team GB. Come on, even you can comprehend that. The SWC will be a very embarrassing week for Team GB in 2017 for which there is no doubt. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if we pulled out as the quality on show will get battered. Oh and I think you'll find about 35,000 people at Cardiff every year disagree with your final statement, it's just a handful on here who voice otherwise. So 35,000 v a handful Tai has stated that he's not riding for Team GB in 2017 and made known that he has some kind of difference of opinion with the BSPA over a number of things. Why do we need to know more? Why do we have the right to know more? We don't and it's his prerogative to tell 'us' what he wants 'us' to know. The BSPA have the same option open to them, however as always they've remained silent. Why don't you lobby them for answers??? Why bring it into the open at all then... Where has this £9,000 expenses wanted to ride SWC come from, and what is the race suit issue? If it was different I didn't notice it!!!! I may need to visit Specsavers if that's the case !!!! Edited August 22, 2016 by Shale Searcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) This thread has completely and utterly proved that gavan and chris gillian are the same person. Hilarious. why because they share the same opinion.. share their opinion as well am i the same person as well Edited August 22, 2016 by Dazzafl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 why because they share the same opinion.. share their opinion as well am i the same person as well No they post identical messages talk in the same tone etc, its clear for most to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 No they post identical messages talk in the same tone etc, its clear for most to see. ahh you see i disagree Gavan is far more outspoken than Chris.. yeah they both agree heavily about the Tai situation but i dont think they are the same person.. god knows where the £9000 come from again another thing started on this forum like the bit about half the GP team asking for more money.. again i think another thing from this forum.. unfortunatley its all hear say and conjecture to this point as no one knows anything concrete so you are all guessing.. I am fairly close to Tai and chat quite regularly we try and keep things away from speedway but it does drift onto it.. so i consider him a close friend as i do his whole family. i organsised him coming to peterborough for the lad who had his murial painted on his wall.. a mate did the graffiti artwork as well.. I think some things people are saying on here is awful and i also think none of you would say a lot of these things to his face.. but oh well this is just a forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Oh words fail me Pinny who the hell do you think you are buddy? Your more than welcome to come and visit me over in Essex pal Everyone knows my sheer dislike of the Poole promotion and ive been accused of being a Poole hater, Poole basher so many times ive lost count. So guess what............ i decided to set up a new account as a Poole fan..........yeah that will fool the idiots wont it. You need to get a life pal or get out more and as i say any time you want to meet up i will be there but please tell me if i need to come dressed as a Poole fan or if i can come dressed in my own clothes please as i wouldnt want to disappoint you..........pillock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Oh words fail me Pinny who the hell do you think you are buddy? Your more than welcome to come and visit me over in Essex pal Everyone knows my sheer dislike of the Poole promotion and ive been accused of being a Poole hater, Poole basher so many times ive lost count. So guess what............ i decided to set up a new account as a Poole fan..........yeah that will fool the idiots wont it. You need to get a life pal or get out more and as i say any time you want to meet up i will be there but please tell me if i need to come dressed as a Poole fan or if i can come dressed in my own clothes please as i wouldnt want to disappoint you..........pillock thats a bit harsh mate.. but i get your point.. no need for the name calling really.. unless you have such a severe multi personality disorder you dont know what you are doing.. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Confused now. I thought Gav and Starry were the same person. After all, they will both argue with their own face in a mirror. Edited August 22, 2016 by pugwash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 thats a bit harsh mate.. but i get your point.. no need for the name calling really.. unless you have such a severe multi personality disorder you dont know what you are doing.. haha maybe but i get fed up with some of the fools on here. its blatantly obvious that i dont have any other accounts so it gets a tad frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 maybe but i get fed up with some of the fools on here. its blatantly obvious that i dont have any other accounts so it gets a tad frustrating yeah i know.. but these kind of outbursts are what got you your holiday last time mate lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted August 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 thats a bit harsh mate.. but i get your point.. no need for the name calling really.. unless you have such a severe multi personality disorder you dont know what you are doing.. haha He isnt capable of commenting without being aggressive unfortunately. Its why he keeps getting banned. I hope Gav and Chris are the same person imagine the horror of there being two people that stupid!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 He isnt capable of commenting without being aggressive unfortunately. Its why he keeps getting banned. I hope Gav and Chris are the same person imagine the horror of there being two people that stupid!! do you actually comment on any thread or just follow me around? quite sweet that the only time ive seen you is to have another pop at me. get a life my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted August 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 do you actually comment on any thread or just follow me around? quite sweet that the only time ive seen you is to have another pop at me. get a life my friend 😂😂😂 you wish.. you just happen to spout rubbish and embarrass yourself on every thread. Your back to thinking your superior to everyone because your family allegedly once spoke to Mark Loram. Theres alot of people calling you out who are bored of your comments yet you carry on making a twit of yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Lets have a look at why i call people names shall we? and then you can tell me if its anything to do with the actual debate. Robert72 i called pondlife as he had a pop at my deceased family for knowing the Lorams (sad news with the passing of Paul the other week) This poster was a troll and was called out by lots of other people. Starman - well we all know he is a fool not just me calling him that Shovlar is what a his a wind up merchant who doesnt like it back at him and again everyone not just me sees him for what he is. Ive only ever called him a troll nothing more Orion - seems a decent chap but is an idiot for calling me and chris4gillian the same person. I debate with anyone and only use names for the same people who dont know how to debate We can exclude the Robert72 one cos I didn't know about that one. Why call people names though, there is no need. It is bad debating skills, and reduces your side of the argument to nothing tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 We can exclude the Robert72 one cos I didn't know about that one. Why call people names though, there is no need. It is bad debating skills, and reduces your side of the argument to nothing tbh. He's never had his side of the argument. Its just blinkered anti Poole drivel with the occassional post thrown in where he doesn't mention me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Why are Sky showing Tai's rides at Wolves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godmother Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Why are Sky showing Tai's rides at Wolves? Perhaps it's the only chance you will get to see him ride in England and Sky think we are that desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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