So Who Is Going To Win The El In 2016?

[foreverblue]

😂😂😂😂😂 I'm sure Brady, Newman and Buzz would have him shaking in his helmet,

 

and now back in the real world. 😜

Klindt won the last heat 14 at Poole, so I'm sure Fricke would do it easily

You can quote me on that if you like. He wouldnt beat Buckowski or Hans.Unlikely Kurtz would be in heat 14, he wasnt too good in last years final.

Klindt won heat 14 but we had already won the meeting so even Bucko isnt going to go all out to win that race.

Edited August 9, 2016 by foreverblue

[LisaColette]

You can quote me on that if you like. He wouldnt beat Buckowski or Hans.Unlikely Kurtz would be in heat 14, he wasnt too good in last years final.

Since when was Brady in last years final??!

[foreverblue]

Since when was Brady in last years final??!

I meant Fricke wasnt too good in last years final Edited August 9, 2016 by foreverblue

[LisaColette]

I meant Fricke wasnt too good in last years final

Ah okay! They may want to save Nicholls for heat 14 unless he's at reserve

[Gavan]

I expect our lack of home advantage to be properly exposed over the next few weeks.

 

Swindon come back and will be very confident after their easy early season win, Coventry are a much better side than the one that scored 42 points on their last visit. Leicester also scored 42 points but I'm not sure they've improved as much as Coventry and then there's Kings Lynn. They were well beaten but with less than half a team and on a wet track which did for Bachelor.

 

Then there is the big spending team that started the season with a real el average (incl bonus) of nearly 50 points, over six points higher than the next best thanks to some remarkable decisions by the bspa! Their four heat leaders and Aussie champion and world cup star as back up should easily score more than what Leicester and Coventry did at the National Speedway Stadium.

 

I expect us to beat Leicester again which will give us the 52 points required for cup qualification and then its just down to luck.

 

Missed out last season thanks to a very poor refereeing decision so hopefully luck may be on our side this season.

100% spot on post

 

Back in March Poole with that line up were the shortest price favourites that there has ever been in the history of the elite league.

Still odds on favourites going into August, yet the team hasnt performed as it should have done.

 

Maybe thats down to a lack of motivation from Middlo or Ford being afraid to make changes but Poole are having a poor season with the 1-7 they have riding for them

Belle Vue with no home track advantage meant that this season should have been a cakewalk for Poole so i dont know why it hasnt happened can only be down to the promotion i guess or the state of the track.

 

After the line ups were announced at the start of the season and then Watt being replaced by a far stronger rider in Bjarne, will this go down in the history of the sport as the biggest choke ever if Poole dont win the league?

Edited August 9, 2016 by Gavan

[LisaColette]

Far stronger? About the same I would say. As for choking ha ha ha ha ha, we would have to be leading for that to happen and we haven't be top of the table yet. It's whether BV choke and we pick up the pieces.

 

You continually accuse Steve of trolling but you do a pretty good job of it yourself.

[Gavan]

Far stronger? About the same I would say. As for choking ha ha ha ha ha, we would have to be leading for that to happen and we haven't be top of the table yet. It's whether BV choke and we pick up the pieces.

 

You continually accuse Steve of trolling but you do a pretty good job of it yourself.

When you are long odds on favourites to win and you then dont thats choking.

 

And Steve is well regarded as the forum troll. H posts to get a reaction.

 

Take a good look at Fred Flange post and then my one as well. All we are doing is responding in the same manner that Shovlar posts in.

Its quite fun really. If he or any other Poole fans dont like it then dont dish it out, simple really

[Steve Shovlar]

Far stronger? About the same I would say. As for choking ha ha ha ha ha, we would have to be leading for that to happen and we haven't be top of the table yet. It's whether BV choke and we pick up the pieces.

You continually accuse Steve of trolling but you do a pretty good job of it yourself.

Don't rise to the bait Lisa. As can be seen by everyone on here he is totally losing it again and its only a matter of time before he self implodes. Biggest troll the forum has had in a while but at least we can all sit back and laugh at him. Can se the steam pouring out of his ears as he types some feeble reply.☠

[Gavan]

Don't rise to the bait Lisa. As can be seen by everyone on here he is totally losing it again and its only a matter of time before he self implodes. Biggest troll the forum has had in a while but at least we can all sit back and laugh at him. Can se the steam pouring out of his ears as he types some feeble reply.☠

Not at all not getting angry in anway.

 

Ive just responded to your thread same as everyone else.

 

I think Belle Vue will win the league

Poole were huge favourites and have thrown it away/choked if they dont win with that 1-7.

 

whats wrong with that?

 

oh sorry its not want you want to hear is it.

 

You troll your own thread goading responses and then dont like what you read when someone trolls it back at you.

 

Ive not abused anyone or got angry or name called and i wont do that. All im doing is just replying to you in the style that you like to post in!!

 

Great fun

[Bee 26]

Won't be long before Hans is dropped to make way for Janowski...

[Countershaftcounter]

I wouldn't say I'm responding in the same manner as anyone, I'm just posting a few logical conclusions based on what has happened at the National Speedway Stadium so far this season and the form of the next few visiting teams.

 

As for choking, as pre-season favourites go I can't remember one so nailed on as Poole. Nobody missed the massive advantage they had over everyone else with the crazy decisions that included that Buczkowski wasn't on the hl list plus the real averages of the reserves which were completely ignored!!

 

When it comes to the cup, luck will play a huge part as usual, but if big spending Poole have a full team and don't win then it will be statistically (fact not opinion) the biggest choke in British speedway history.

Surely statistics go out of the window when throughout the season the "two best reserves" have both been out for a period of time (Newman especially) with injuries. You can't take the start of the season line up and run it throughout the season as so many variables come into account.

[SteveLyric2]

Won't be long before Hans is dropped to make way for Janowski...

 

How's that gonna work then??

 

Poole's current team total is 45.95. Magic's final 2015 average is 8.97. Hans is 7.46

[Gavan]

I wouldn't say I'm responding in the same manner as anyone, I'm just posting a few logical conclusions based on what has happened at the National Speedway Stadium so far this season and the form of the next few visiting teams.

 

As for choking, as pre-season favourites go I can't remember one so nailed on as Poole. Nobody missed the massive advantage they had over everyone else with the crazy decisions that included that Buczkowski wasn't on the hl list plus the real averages of the reserves which were completely ignored!!

 

When it comes to the cup, luck will play a huge part as usual, but if big spending Poole have a full team and don't win then it will be statistically (fact not opinion) the biggest choke in British speedway history.

Correct but the trouble is when you post logically and factually there are the odd few Poole fans who simply can not understand.

 

Poole built by some way the best 1-7 by quite some margin.

 

To lose the league this season (maybe to a team that has no home track advantage) would be the biggest choke we have ever witnessed

[SteveLyric2]

Strange isn't it - or maybe not?! - that Gavan is back from his 'sabbatical' and straight onto a thread that involves Poole. Not that he has any issues with Poole you understand.........................?!

[LisaColette]

Strange isn't it - or maybe not?! - that Gavan is back from his 'sabbatical' and straight onto a thread that involves Poole. Not that he has any issues with Poole you understand.........................?!

:D Poole are far stronger than BV acc to him, yet BV have pretty much the same team as last year where they came runners up (just!)

I bet if BV were bookies faves and Poole were top of the table, he would still say Poole were faves!! :D

[Gavan]

Strange isn't it - or maybe not?! - that Gavan is back from his 'sabbatical' and straight onto a thread that involves Poole. Not that he has any issues with Poole you understand.........................?!

Strange isnt it that this thread is titled who do you think will win the elite league???? That means that its open for fans of any club to post?

 

Please change the title then if only Poole fans can post

:D Poole are far stronger than BV acc to him, yet BV have pretty much the same team as last year where they came runners up (just!)

I bet if BV were bookies faves and Poole were top of the table, he would still say Poole were faves!! :D

Poole had easily the best 1-7 at the start of the season its not even an opinion its fact.

They have been odds on favourites all season.

 

Because they havent done as well as they should have you come on here and declare they arent favourites so that if you lose you can say the favourites won!

 

Nobody falls for it as Shovlar does it every season

 

When Belle Vue are bookies favourites then your current opinion will be correct.

 

Will still be a massive choke when you cant beat a team that had a track that was new to everybody thus there was no advantage.

[poole keith]

how many matches do forum members think an elite league rider needs around a track to work out racing lines,engine settings etc,etc come the play offs belle vue will have raced 14 matches at their new venue, would you think that would be enough for all the riders?half the riders?or just one or two to have the track sussed,woffie got the hang of it in one evening.

[waiheke1]

I disagree that Poole will have choked if they don't win the league. Maybe the aces will just have ridden well?

 

Is poole'a team on paper really that much stronger than the aces? Maybe marginally, but man for man the only area where they are clearly stronger is at 7. So over two legs, 6 rides out of 60.

All it takes is one ace to over perform and that advantage is wiped out.

 

If u take the start of season teams: the "real" hl for both have performed as as expected (watt IMHO should mot have been on the list, but was clearly far worse than anticipated ). R Worrell and bjarne have performed as you'd expect. Fricke has over achieved compared to Kurtz.

S worrall and Ellis have both surpassed expectations. Jacobs and Newman have both performed pretty much as you'd expect.

But the fact that aces have performedbetter than expected hardly means poole have choked.

Most said they were the strongest two sides. And that was accurate. Let's just enjoy a good aces side in a brilliant new stadium, and if they win congratulate them, not just use it as a chance to get digs in at poole.

[LisaColette]

Strange isnt it that this thread is titled who do you think will win the elite league???? That means that its open for fans of any club to post?

 

Please change the title then if only Poole fans can post

 

Poole had easily the best 1-7 at the start of the season its not even an opinion its fact.

They have been odds on favourites all season.

 

Because they havent done as well as they should have you come on here and declare they arent favourites so that if you lose you can say the favourites won!

 

Nobody falls for it as Shovlar does it every season

 

When Belle Vue are bookies favourites then your current opinion will be correct.

 

Will still be a massive choke when you cant beat a team that had a track that was new to everybody thus there was no advantage.

And what advantage does the Poole track have? Everyone can ride it well apart from Fricke ( who does better on it every time he comes).

I disagree that Poole will have choked if they don't win the league. Maybe the aces will just have ridden well?

 

Is poole'a team on paper really that much stronger than the aces? Maybe marginally, but man for man the only area where they are clearly stronger is at 7. So over two legs, 6 rides out of 60.

All it takes is one ace to over perform and that advantage is wiped out.

 

If u take the start of season teams: the "real" hl for both have performed as as expected (watt IMHO should mot have been on the list, but was clearly far worse than anticipated ). R Worrell and bjarne have performed as you'd expect. Fricke has over achieved compared to Kurtz.

S worrall and Ellis have both surpassed expectations. Jacobs and Newman have both performed pretty much as you'd expect.

But the fact that aces have performedbetter than expected hardly means poole have choked.

Most said they were the strongest two sides. And that was accurate. Let's just enjoy a good aces side in a brilliant new stadium, and if they win congratulate them, not just use it as a chance to get digs in at poole.

Great post, hopefully Gavan takes your advice

[stevebrum]

I disagree that Poole will have choked if they don't win the league. Maybe the aces will just have ridden well?

Is poole'a team on paper really that much stronger than the aces? Maybe marginally, but man for man the only area where they are clearly stronger is at 7. So over two legs, 6 rides out of 60.

All it takes is one ace to over perform and that advantage is wiped out.

If u take the start of season teams: the "real" hl for both have performed as as expected (watt IMHO should mot have been on the list, but was clearly far worse than anticipated ). R Worrell and bjarne have performed as you'd expect. Fricke has over achieved compared to Kurtz.

S worrall and Ellis have both surpassed expectations. Jacobs and Newman have both performed pretty much as you'd expect.

But the fact that aces have performedbetter than expected hardly means poole have choked.

Most said they were the strongest two sides. And that was accurate. Let's just enjoy a good aces side in a brilliant new stadium, and if they win congratulate them, not just use it as a chance to get digs in at poole.

Well explained.

Both Poole and Aces stood out a mile from the rest at the start of the season with Poole looking the most power packed.

The Aces have lived up to the promise and then some.

Poole have flattered to deceive a fair bit so far.

 

I'm not at all surprised the bookies have Poole as favourites given their history and starting line up.

Don't see anything changing other than the odds as PO's get nearer.

 

The Aces are the team very much in form right now, nothing different to Wolves being declared favourites by some (mostly Poole fans!) In the first 3rd of the season.

 

To me it makes no difference what the bookies say even tho I agree on their stance, the team that wins the title via the PO's is the team that is usually bang in form or Poole come end of August/September.