What Changes Have To Be Made In 2017?

[orion]

What was there to back up the double tr bollox or a meeting with an interval then nothing? Everyone knows why crowds have dropped since the play offs so no need to go there ..... yet.

Do they ? crowds were dropping long before double points or Play offs

[BWitcher]

Well - the selected few anyway.

 

You're saying there is no qualifying?

 

When did this happen!

[The White Knight]

 

You're saying there is no qualifying?

 

When did this happen!

I cast the bait and you bit - as I knew you would.

 

See Smilies. :rofl: :rofl:

[sparkafag]

I cast the bait and you bit - as I knew you would.

 

See Smilies. :rofl: :rofl:

 

 

Should watch with the trolling.... big bad Gresham doesn’t take kindly to that - he will be along shortly chucking around f bombs and dropping the c word like a young Marshall Mathers and even worse sticking you on the block list, which to be fair is where everyone on this forum should aspire to be, that list is the BSF’S Top Gun, the best of the best. If you aren't on there you might as well be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog sh*t out of Hong Kong.

Edited August 5, 2016 by The Mockingjay

[The White Knight]

 

 

Should watch with the trolling.... big bad Gresham doesn’t take kindly to that - he will be along shortly chucking around f bombs and dropping the c word like a young Marshall Mathers and even worse sticking you on the block list, which to be fair is where everyone on this forum should aspire to be, that list is the BSF’S Top Gun, the best of the best. If you aren't on there you might as well be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog sh*t out of Hong Kong.

Not trolling.

 

I knew what BW's reaction would be.

Edited August 5, 2016 by The White Knight

[sparkafag]

Not trolling.

 

I knew what BW's reaction would be.

 

 

Awww ok, well when you put it like that....no wait that's trolling.

[The White Knight]

 

 

Awww ok, well when you put it like that....no wait that's trolling.

I don't think so. But you may be right - I always thought trolling was following someone in a nasty way. BW and I have a long history over this particular issue.

 

I was just having a bit of fun - hence the Smilies. Perhaps having a sense of humour is not acceptable on here.

 

Note to self: Do not have fun - it is trolling.

[sparkafag]

I don't think so. But you may be right - I always thought trolling was following someone in a nasty way. BW and I have a long history over this particular issue.

 

I was just having a bit of fun - hence the Smilies. Perhaps having a sense of humour is not acceptable on here.

 

Note to self: Do not have fun - it is trolling.

 

 

Bash on…was just a word of warning, you might be getting a shower of abuse for it though.

Edited August 5, 2016 by The Mockingjay

[The White Knight]

 

 

Bash on…was just a word of warning, you might be getting a shower of abuse for it though.

I can take abuse on here, have done many a time......................

 

I will heed your words though.

[SCB]

Anyone thinking 13,15 or 18 heats will make any different or if you think the beat format will make a difference you're all bloody deluded.

 

15ish heats presented professionally* over 90ish minutes with simple rules is what's needed. Joe public doesn't give a crap about rules and race formats!

 

*Presenters who are not in their 60s, music that is more modern and a sound system you can hear it from.

[Ovalman]

Anyone thinking 13,15 or 18 heats will make any different or if you think the beat format will make a difference you're all bloody deluded.

15ish heats presented professionally* over 90ish minutes with simple rules is what's needed. Joe public doesn't give a crap about rules and race formats!

*Presenters who are not in their 60s, music that is more modern and a sound system you can hear it from.

Head to the Abbey chap, loud sounds from Abba to Ac/dc, even Justin Timberlake and groovy sounds from today's hit parade

[steve roberts]

Head to the Abbey chap, loud sounds from Abba to Ac/dc, even Justin Timberlake and groovy sounds from today's hit parade

Personally the music played was never a great factor when I went to the speedway...too busy chatting and deliberating with my mates between racing and trying to out-wit the team manager's next move!

[Trees]

Play offs are exciting but there should be no double points or tacticals allowed in them imo. Straight meetings, not even reserve replacements this year given the balls up with reserve averages .....

Thought a little bit more about this, maybe for the playoffs this year, the British guys who started at reserve should be down there again, whatever the averages say .....

[Gresham]

Play off's are in many sports now...in theory it doesn't make sense for all the reasons mentioned. Imo, it's a 'modern' mindset, where people want more from their sport.

 

Same could be said for penalty shoot outs to decide important football match's. When you consider all the hard work during a season, and then it comes down to a few penalties.

 

 

Personally the music played was never a great factor when I went to the speedway...too busy chatting and deliberating with my mates between racing and trying to out-wit the team manager's next move!

I understand that fella...however...music at an event, especially in a high adrenalin sport like speedway, can be used to build the excitement and anticipation to the main event.

 

I experienced last night, the worst chosen music for any sporting event I've ever been too. It actually made me feel depressed and sleepy. I felt so strongly about it, that I mentioned it in the Somerset match thread.

 

I've seen it done well at Swindon...as mentioned. 'Appropriate' music to set the atmosphere.

 

It really can enhance an experience or ruin it.

 

It's not expensive or rocket science...but done poorly can really darken the mood.

[steve roberts]

Play off's are in many sports now...in theory it doesn't make sense for all the reasons mentioned. Imo, it's a 'modern' mindset, where people want more from their sport.

 

Same could be said for penalty shoot outs to decide important football match's. When you consider all the hard work during a season, and then it comes down to a few penalties.

 

 

I understand that fella...however...music at an event, especially in a high adrenalin sport like speedway, can be used to build the excitement and anticipation to the main event.

 

I experienced last night, the worst chosen music for any sporting event I've ever been too. It actually made me feel depressed and sleepy. I felt so strongly about it, that I mentioned it in the Somerset match thread.

 

I've seen it done well at Swindon...as mentioned. 'Appropriate' music to set the atmosphere.

 

It really can enhance an experience or ruin it.

 

It's not expensive or rocket science...but done poorly can really darken the mood.

I agree with having music to enhance the build up to main meeting and on a victory parade which adds atmosphere but personally, between heats, I was always self-absorbed for reasons given previously.

 

When I used to watch the Oxford City 'Stars' (Ice Hockey) they would be introduced to the crowd with flashing lights and the theme to Jeff Wayne's 'War of the Worlds' which really added to the occasion.

[E I Addio]

10 pages into a thread about next year and all we have seen are suggestions to turn the clock back 30 or 40 years.

 

The issue above all else that needs addressing is the one that even the BSPA realise they got wrong, namely the ridiculous EDR scheme.

 

We have to keep the EDR scheme on the grounds of cost but the following adjustments have to be made IMO:-

 

1. The team that finishes bottom get first pick and the team that finishes top get last pick, no ifs, no buts, no protected assets nonsense.

 

2. Any EDR'swhose average takes them into the 1-5 may only ride at No's 2or4. No more EDR's getting blown away in heatleader roles.

 

3. Get rid of the huge gap between the best and worst EDR's. It needs to be looked at carefully but should be something like EDR's to be selected from PL second strings or NL No1's. No more Newmans, Worralls, Auty's, etc dominating the EDR . riders of that standard need to earn their EL team place on merit.

 

4. I am tempted to say that reserves be limited to six rides. I invite opinions on that. I can see flaws in the suggestion which others might be able to improve upon but we need to stop bona fide second strings and heatleaders dropping to reserve and being able to score 18 or 20 points. Riders like Lewis Bridger, Bjarne Pedersen, and Nikolai Klindnt should never be in protected heats against genuine EDRs

[Trees]

10 pages into a thread about next year and all we have seen are suggestions to turn the clock back 30 or 40 years.

The issue above all else that needs addressing is the one that even the BSPA realise they got wrong, namely the ridiculous EDR scheme.

We have to keep the EDR scheme on the grounds of cost but the following adjustments have to be made IMO:-

1. The team that finishes bottom get first pick and the team that finishes top get last pick, no ifs, no buts, no protected assets nonsense.

2. Any EDR'swhose average takes them into the 1-5 may only ride at No's 2or4. No more EDR's getting blown away in heatleader roles.

3. Get rid of the huge gap between the best and worst EDR's. It needs to be looked at carefully but should be something like EDR's to be selected from PL second strings or NL No1's. No more Newmans, Worralls, Auty's, etc dominating the EDR . riders of that standard need to earn their EL team place on merit.

4. I am tempted to say that reserves be limited to six rides. I invite opinions on that. I can see flaws in the suggestion which others might be able to improve upon but we need to stop bona fide second strings and heatleaders dropping to reserve and being able to score 18 or 20 points. Riders like Lewis Bridger, Bjarne Pedersen, and Nikolai Klindnt should never be in protected heats against genuine EDRs

So sorting the EDR system is gonna be the saviour of EL?

[The White Knight]

So sorting the EDR system is gonna be the saviour of EL?

I severely doubt it.

[New Science]

Play off's are in many sports now...in theory it doesn't make sense for all the reasons mentioned. Imo, it's a 'modern' mindset, where people want more from their sport.

 

Same could be said for penalty shoot outs to decide important football match's. When you consider all the hard work during a season, and then it comes down to a few penalties.

 

 

I understand that fella...however...music at an event, especially in a high adrenalin sport like speedway, can be used to build the excitement and anticipation to the main event.

 

I experienced last night, the worst chosen music for any sporting event I've ever been too. It actually made me feel depressed and sleepy. I felt so strongly about it, that I mentioned it in the Somerset match thread.

 

I've seen it done well at Swindon...as mentioned. 'Appropriate' music to set the atmosphere.

 

It really can enhance an experience or ruin it.

 

It's not expensive or rocket science...but done poorly can really darken the mood.

If after 2 legs of the play offs we have a draw it goes to Golden heat. A seasons work down to 1 heat, its exactly the same as football and any other sports

I agree with having music to enhance the build up to main meeting and on a victory parade which adds atmosphere but personally, between heats, I was always self-absorbed for reasons given previously.

 

When I used to watch the Oxford City 'Stars' (Ice Hockey) they would be introduced to the crowd with flashing lights and the theme to Jeff Wayne's 'War of the Worlds' which really added to the occasion.

The music wasn't anything special at the NSS for the World Cup final. When the speedway is that good nobody gives a stuff about the music.

Blaming the presentation and the music is usually a screen to cover up a poor product

[The White Knight]

I've got a good idea. Scrap the names Elite League, Premier League and National League and rename them as Qualifying Rounds Division One, Two and Three for the National Trophy in each Division.

 

Because that is what it is nowadays.