Rockets V Somerset Sun 31st July 4pm Double Header

[Cliffeboy]

BWD and ZW a gamble? Do me a favour. You don't watch NL racing obviously.

Word on the street was that clubs were scared on BWD's average of 5, and Zachary is averaging under 3 at the moment I think, you win some you lose some, but yes a gamble to start with.

[womble53]

Allen was better developed rider since he couldn't get into the Berwick team a few years ago

 

You are clearly out of touch!

 

Allen was due to join Berwick LAST YEAR, not a few years ago, and his non-appearance had nothing to do with his development, it was down entirely to the visa nonsense in place at the time.

 

The only difference in his development was another season on the Australian circuit, he was essentially the same rider when Somerset signed him, as he was when Berwick were interested. So yes he was a gamble.

 

As has been explained before it wasn't so much a gamble but a decision made after May did his homework.

 

Of course Garry would have done his homework, but that doesn't mean that they were any less of a gamble. Let's take Jake Allen as an example. Garry would have watched a lot of video and talked to other riders about Jake, and obviously the signs were good enough for him to take the decision to sign him, but that doesn't make him any less of a gamble.

 

How many times have you seen a rider arrive in the UK with a massive reputation, and totally bomb out in British speedway, I can think of quite a few. You can watch all the video you like & talk to riders, but at the end of the day you are looking mainly at a rider who is operating in his comfort zone and listening to opinions. They can only be a rough guide, the rider still has to adapt & feel comfortable.

 

Every year I travel to the continent and watch riders who look really good in their own environment, but could not hold a candle to, and would struggle even at NL level.

 

Then you have others, who are clearly a cut above the rest. For instance Romano Hummel, who I believe has the potential and ability to make a really good rider, but's who first attempt at PL racing ended because he was outside his comfort zone, in that he apparently, according to Berwick's Press release, couldn't cope with being away from home and his family.

 

So taking someone from the other side of the world, could bring with it a multitude of problems........so once again, yes, Jake in particular was a gamble, but gladly one that has worked out well for Somerset

Edited August 1, 2016 by womble53

[bigcatdiary]

It will of course be interesting if all assessed riders start at the same 7.00 average that the Scandinavians are saddled with.

 

Then perhaps some of the teams will start developing British talent rather than taking the easier option and always looking abroad.

[Chris]

Considering the Somerset team are mostly Elite riders I think Rye can feel a bit hard done by especially

taking on the top team with a huge gap in home meetings.

Once again a double header produced a super sick track that didn't suite home riders - Likke especially.

Tungate takes after his name Tun-gate! Reminded me of Eric Gunderson in his hey day!

Hard done by? So we're blaming Somerset for another crap performance because their team is too strong. Ffs. It would be nice if we had a decent side to follow & had promoters like Somerset that know how to build good sides. Rye have had awful sides for the last six/seven years now & it's continued this year as usual. The team is rubbish & will finish bottom two.

 

The feel good factor disappeared yesterday. Track was crap, stadium still a bomb site, two & a half hours for a meeting & a dire performance with rubbish racing. I lost the will to live half way through.

 

Somerset deserved the win.

 

No one impressed for Rye. Lanham, what is the point? He's beat about two riders in the last three meetings. What is he bringing to the side? Heeps was comical, over riding & going backwards. Awful track craft. Lykke usual from the tapes & wasn't making any ground on that track. Branford all over the show & went backwards in every race. Not sure why schroeck left him in 14? Kennett crap when track is slick & Robbo using the wrong line in heat 13 losing a draw.

 

Very depressing yesterday. An air of resignation about the place.

 

Three stuffings on the northern tour coming up & Glasgow at home next. Oh dear.

[Shadders]

I didn't see many clubs queuing up when BWD got saddled with a 5.00 average.

Len Silver was, but when the new promotion took over either they weren't interested, or BWD wasn't.

[waco]

You have to admire Cris,s optimism of every thing Rye?...Seriously though have to agree on some points,and Rye House has been crying out for a winning side for some time now...Next season hopefully..

Edited August 1, 2016 by waco

[Orient Rocket]

First post for me left after Rockets match just wondered if anyone knows the identity of the rider doing a few laps during the interval?5

[Shadders]

You have to admire Cris,s optimism of every thing Rye?...Seriously though have to agree on some points,and Rye House has been crying out for a winning side for some time now...Next season hopefully..

I thought he made some good points. No good trying to sugar coat it

[GWC]

I thought he made some good points. No good trying to sugar coat it

Some good points!! Come off it Shads the bloke is a serial pessimist.

We have ridden 4 matches against Somerset and did OK in 3 of them not thrashed.

The Lambert and then Klindt farce made the team under strength and that's been our lot but

have to say I've not enjoyed a season like the current one since the Tai Woffinden era.

Edited August 1, 2016 by GWC

[Shadders]

Some good points!! Come off it Shads the bloke is a serial pessimist.

We have ridden 4 matches against Somerset and did OK in 3 of them not thrashed.

The Lambert and then Klindt farce made the team under strength and that's been our lot but

have to say I've not enjoyed a season like the current one since the Tai Woffinden era.

I said some good points. Hard to disagree that the stadium has had virtually nothing done to it for months, Kasper throwing points away with his terrible reactions at the tapes, Robbo throwing away a point in heat 13 (maybe machinery issues). The iffy track on Sunday when it's generally been good all year. I also agree with Chris that we're up for some serious beatings over the coming weekend. That's not me being pessimistic, that's being realistic. Edited August 1, 2016 by Shads

[Najjer]

Len Silver was, but when the new promotion took over either they weren't interested, or BWD wasn't.

So Rye House under the old promotion and then Somerset.... 2 teams out of 13 is hardly a lot.

Edited August 1, 2016 by Najjer

[Shadders]

So Rye House under the old promotion and then Somerset.... 2 teams out of 13 is hardly a lot.

I never claimed that. I have no idea how many clubs were interested, or if BWD was interested in going there. Do you?

Having seen him in the NL a few times I was convinced he'd attain his average at least

Edited August 1, 2016 by Shads

[Najjer]

I never claimed that. I have no idea how many clubs were interested, or if BWD was interested in going there. Do you?

Having seen him in the NL a few times I was convinced he'd attain his average at least

See the Somerset thread, as you was quoted as saying he was a gamble....

[Shadders]

See the Somerset thread, as you was quoted as saying he was a gamble....

Most riders new to British speedway are a gamble. Peter Karger on a 5 point average. Now that's a gamble and one that's gone spectacularly t*ts up

Edited August 1, 2016 by Shads

[junior fan]

Hard done by? So we're blaming Somerset for another crap performance because their team is too strong. Ffs. It would be nice if we had a decent side to follow & had promoters like Somerset that know how to build good sides. Rye have had awful sides for the last six/seven years now & it's continued this year as usual. The team is rubbish & will finish bottom two.

 

The feel good factor disappeared yesterday. Track was crap, stadium still a bomb site, two & a half hours for a meeting & a dire performance with rubbish racing. I lost the will to live half way through.

 

Somerset deserved the win.

 

No one impressed for Rye. Lanham, what is the point? He's beat about two riders in the last three meetings. What is he bringing to the side? Heeps was comical, over riding & going backwards. Awful track craft. Lykke usual from the tapes & wasn't making any ground on that track. Branford all over the show & went backwards in every race. Not sure why schroeck left him in 14? Kennett crap when track is slick & Robbo using the wrong line in heat 13 losing a draw.

 

Very depressing yesterday. An air of resignation about the place.

 

Three stuffings on the northern tour coming up & Glasgow at home next. Oh dear.

 

Stay away mate , im sure you wouldnt be missed im betting your the tool up in the stand mouthing off about everything and people avoid you anyway.

To have a pot at Eddie with the season hes had is laughable.

How many seasons did you ride to say that Robbo was riding the wrong lines, not as many as him im guessing.

Id say the reason they had Rob in heat 14 was because he had just lead the opposite number 1 for 3 and a half laps.

Yeah Leighs having a tough time but he needs support not floggers like you coming on forums slagging him off but you have been against the new promotion since day one.

After all the team have just pushed a team thats on a run of 17 something wins to a last heat decider.

So please stay away and let the supporters enjoy there day suppporting there team.

 

Junior

Edited August 1, 2016 by junior fan

[sommelier]

First post for me left after Rockets match just wondered if anyone knows the identity of the rider doing a few laps during the interval?5

Lewis Bridger

[Reviresco]

Lewis Bridger

 

Yes it was Lewis Bridger. Decked out in his Revolution Speedway colours it could only have been him or Lewi Kerr.

 

I'm not going to get into the debate about Riders, as they all ear my utmost respect whether they score a 15pt maximum or run four last places and, when speedway is a riders only form of £ income, they are hardly going to score badly on purpose.

 

I know that Cam doesn't read these pages, but if he did, I wonder what a 20 year old kid, nine thousand miles away from home would think if he read that his riding was "comical", "overriding and going backwards"? Knowing Cam he would most probably agree, but when you've stood in the pits with him after the meeting and tried to get his head up and back focused after a meeting like that and with three horrible away tracks coming up on successive nights, it is not the confidence booster that he needs right now, When asked by a young lad for his advice on taking up the sport, without thinking, Cam said, "Do the opposite of what your brain tells you to do",,,,

 

I thought it was because he thought he'd won the £80 raffle draw.......

 

Was nice to meet up with you again yesterday Shads

 

Shame that I missed you Statman. Would have been good to say hello especially to someone who know Kevin Teager.

I didn't see many clubs queuing up when BWD got saddled with a 5.00 average.

 

Chris Louis was definitely interested at the end of last season and had BWD down as a guest in one meeting before the BSPA ruled Bradley unable to guest in the PL and then had him pencilled in for the 16 Lapper until he was forced to withdraw (can't remember the reason), and booked Paco Castagna instead and the rest, as they say, is history...

[waco]

In many ways our two young aussies ,Cameron and Rob are similar types of rider ,they give it everything they have got and sometimes it does not work in their favour..But entertaining riders like these are what people pay thier money to watch ,,And with experience usually turn into top class performers..

Edited August 2, 2016 by waco

[Statman]

Shame that I missed you Statman. Would have been good to say hello especially to someone who know Kevin Teager.

 

I was with the noisy crew on the back straight.....

[marko]

I wonder if Rye could fit Lewis Bridger in their team if its a desire of his to double down? I can only see it being a positive for the lad who frankly does not race enough just riding for the Hammers and from a Rye perspective having him, Edward and Robbo in the same team would be entertainment for the effort they are know to put in on track.