speedibee Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 I would have Thought .considering how good british speedway and it's fans have been to Hancock . he would have been happy to be part of the International christening of our new national stadium . but instead he chose to devalue it by staying away . speaks volumes about him IMHO 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 All we need is tonight Tai withdraws from the meeting to "let youngsters" have a chance and Chris Harris rides in his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Twenty races, USA came last in fifteen of them, what's positive about that, been listening to Hilary Clinton too much about how great the US is, washed up more like. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Twenty races, USA came last in fifteen of them, what's positive about that, been listening to Hilary Clinton too much about how great the US is, washed up more like. ...and people complain about our politicians! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former devil Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Hancock is a grinning fraud, and always has been. I truly hope the USA get a serious ban now, the British fans deserve better than this.. Totally agree. I have been slated many times over the years for saying that Hancock is a total fake and a bore. I hope some of those that continually defend him will perhaps reconsider their opinion of him! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Why, he knew the U.S.A had no chance of qualifing, so he stood down and let a young rider get the chance to make a debut in a World Cup meeting and get his first chance of riding on the big stage. If the Yanks want to be up there with the rest of the world then they need yo get thier youngster riding in E urope to gain the knowlage of racing at world level. If they don't then they will alays be the also rans of speedway, It must have made that lads night even if he never managed to get a poiny. he got the chance to race. Well done to Great Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r77toy Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 I know that Broc was super stoked when he got the call wednesday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Why, he knew the U.S.A had no chance of qualifing, so he stood down and let a young rider get the chance to make a debut in a World Cup meeting and get his first chance of riding on the big stage. If the Yanks want to be up there with the rest of the world then they need yo get thier youngster riding in E urope to gain the knowlage of racing at world level. If they don't then they will alays be the also rans of speedway, It must have made that lads night even if he never managed to get a poiny. he got the chance to race. Well done to Great Britain. and if Tai had stood down to let a youngster have a chance.... I wonder if you would have said the same? Tai not riding in this years British Championship to give others a chance caused more then a bit of argy bargy on here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Very disappointing. The perfect American shows his true colours. I don't buy at all the "give the kids a chance" - they will be out of their depth & will learn virtually nothing from riding alongside Janniro. If anything, it would have made more sense if he had stood down than Hancock, those youngsters could have soaked up a lot from his presence. As it is, he can't be bothered. If he was that interested in US speedway, he would be there regardless of any dispute. All this does is devalue the event & robs the paying public of seeing a world class performer in the UK for only the second time this year. I wonder what the Tai Woffinden haters will make of this. Hancock's decision to miss a rare British appearance to give youngsters a chance was exactly the same as Tai Woffiden's decision to miss the British Final to er give the youngsters a chance. I'm not sure the top stars realise, that with these guys understandably not riding league speedway in Britain that there is a real appetite of British fans to see these top stars ride occasionally on our shores, what other nation could get 8,000 for a race off. We are one of the major speedway nations, we cherish the opportunity to watch the top stars live particularly the current British World champion,maybe they should remember that,Britain has given most of the top stars in speedway some help in their development,don't forget about the British fans now you are in the G.P.. particularly the British World champion. Sorry rant over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Mic Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hancock's decision to miss a rare British appearance to give youngsters a chance was exactly the same as Tai Woffiden's decision to miss the British Final to er give the youngsters a chance. I'm not sure the top stars realise, that with these guys understandably not riding league speedway in Britain that there is a real appetite of British fans to see these top stars ride occasionally on our shores, what other nation could get 8,000 for a race off. We are one of the major speedway nations, we cherish the opportunity to watch the top stars live particularly the current British World champion,maybe they should remember that,Britain has given most of the top stars in speedway some help in their development,don't forget about the British fans now you are in the G.P.. particularly the British World champion. Sorry rant over I don't disagree with you. The point is, Woffinden has been totally slated by all & sundry for his decision, whereas Hancock can seemingly do no wrong. It just irks me that Woffinden appears to be painted as some kind of devil incarnate & Hancock a saint. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 I don't disagree with you. The point is, Woffinden has been totally slated by all & sundry for his decision, whereas Hancock can seemingly do no wrong. It just irks me that Woffinden appears to be painted as some kind of devil incarnate & Hancock a saint. With respect 90 % of the last 5 pages have been Hancock bashing, its probably not over yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 The only difference between the Brits and the U.S.A was the fact that Great Britain had a chance of getting into the top 3 the U.S.A knew deep down that when they rode on Friday with Grin in the team or not then there foray with this year SWC was over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) On the Greg Hancock issue I think that Greg and the AMA are insulting our intelligence. Saying you are looking to the future and then including Billy Janeiro and Ryan Fisher is nonsense. It is obvious that the young Americans would have learned more from watching how Greg goes about his business in the pits than they would from Billy or Ryan. At least be honest about why he wasn't there. Edited July 31, 2016 by AlanF 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Certainly proves they don't "do it for the fans" despite what some insist. Ok... so there seems to be some contradictory information going out here.... on TV Pearson claimed Lance King said it was the plan all along, yet at 6:04pm on Twitter the man himself said it was his late decision - https://twitter.com/GregHancock45/status/759072041345572864 So late that both lads had kevlars made up? Yeah right!If they were letting be youngsters have a chance why was Gino Manzares not used in place of Janniro? He's tweeted he was ready to ride and upset not to get the call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 On the Greg Hancock issue I think that Greg and the AMA are insulting our intelligence. Saying you are looking to the future and then including Billy Janeiro and Ryan Fisher is nonsense. It is obvious that the young Americans would have learned more from watching how Greg goes about his business in the pits than they would from Billy or Ryan. At least be honest about why he wasn't there. It would have made much more sense having Hancock and 3 of the next generation in the line up. Fisher and Janniro are no different to Hancock being in the line up. The next generation would learn more from Hancock. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Leslie Posted July 31, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Total lies from Hancock. It's possible he could make a "last minute" decision not to fly over, but what about his equipment? That would have to travel by road and sea and must have been already on its way before a "last minute" change of mind....so was this equipment lost at sea? It certainly didn't make it to Britain. If it was a last minute decision, how did the replacement rider get kevlars made up so quickly? If you wanted to stand down someone older to give a youngster a chance, you would stand down the old and out-of-their-depth Janniro and Fisher rather than the old-but-world-class Hancock. If Hancock was acting in the best interests of America's future by blooding youngsters, he would also act in America's best interest by bothering to turn up to help and guide them. King and Hancock couldn't even get their excuses together and sing from the same hymnsheet. If you tell the truth there is only one story to remember. All lies from Hancock, who simply let down the USA, their fans, the FIM, Monster Energy, The SWC and British fans. 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former devil Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Total lies from Hancock. It's possible he could make a "last minute" decision not to fly over, but what about his equipment? That would have to travel by road and sea and must have been already on its way before a "last minute" change of mind....so was this equipment lost at sea? It certainly didn't make it to Britain. If it was a last minute decision, how did the replacement rider get kevlars made up so quickly? If you wanted to stand down someone older to give a youngster a chance, you would stand down the old and out-of-their-depth Janniro and Fisher rather than the old-but-world-class Hancock. If Hancock was acting in the best interests of America's future by blooding youngsters, he would also act in America's best interest by bothering to turn up to help and guide them. King and Hancock couldn't even get their excuses together and sing from the same hymnsheet. If you tell the truth there is only one story to remember. All lies from Hancock, who simply let down the USA, their fans, the FIM, Monster Energy, The SWC and British fans. Totally agree. Cant believe some people are so naieve and wont hear a bad word said against him. He is a total fake and manipulates people. Showed himself for what he really is with the Pedersen incident last year! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) Why, he knew the U.S.A had no chance of qualifing, so he stood down and let a young rider get the chance to make a debut in a World Cup meeting and get his first chance of riding on the big stage. If the Yanks want to be up there with the rest of the world then they need yo get thier youngster riding in E urope to gain the knowlage of racing at world level. If they don't then they will alays be the also rans of speedway, It must have made that lads night even if he never managed to get a poiny. he got the chance to race. Well done to Great Britain. Exactly, riding in Europe is what they need . we are no longer in Europe .but I'll be more than happy to see a great American team . once they have learned their craft in " Europe" cant see whats holding them back TBH . we all know Poland , Sweden , Denmark . and Germany will welcome them with open arms and provide them with a living while they get up to speed . and then they can come and ride in our leagues . Edited August 1, 2016 by speedibee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Exactly, riding in Europe is what they need . we are no longer in Europe . Just when you think speedway fans can't get any dumber! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) Realistically the USA have achieved their objective, which was to qualify for the race-off and secure automatic qualification for next years semi-final. That was their goal, they achieved it. Tonight, they know they have next to no chance of finishing anything other than last given the level of competition. The idea is clearly to blood a couple of young riders in Broc Nicol and Luke Becker to give them a taste of a big event, show them the levels they have to reach and help them understand they can't sit back and rest and must continue to work to improve. It's disappointing for the fans but there is a logic to it. Spot on BW or so I thought...not so sure now reading some of the posts on here. Hmm... Edited August 1, 2016 by chris4gillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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