HenryW Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Of others likely to be in the 2017 Premiership.... Craig Cook has a brilliant heat 15 record, fair play! KK as I mentioned above has a 10 point heat 15 average. Hougaard is very good too. But then you're looking at Josh Grajczonek, Max Fricke, Robert Lambert and Kim Nilsson. Any chance you could post the full list of heat 15 averages from this season? I'd definitely be interested to see those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Lasse Bjerre is a very good rider not quite as good as his brother That's debatable. Kenny rely on his gating and is as good as any at that aspect of his game. Lasse is a racer, loves a wheel to wheel challenge and doesn't often bailout. I'd say overall, Lasse is the better rider just not up to scratch at his gating plus he's still only 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 That's debatable. Kenny rely on his gating and is as good as any at that aspect of his game. Lasse is a racer, loves a wheel to wheel challenge and doesn't often bailout. I'd say overall, Lasse is the better rider just not up to scratch at his gating plus he's still only 23. Kenneth has GP experience. Was inches/seconds away from being a GP rider. At age 24 he had qualified for the GPs full time having already ridden a handful of them. Lasse, with all due respect isn't ever going to be a GP rider, certainly isn't going to win the GP challenge in 2017 as Kenneth did in 2008. Any chance you could post the full list of heat 15 averages from this season? I'd definitely be interested to see those. Formatting sucks but you get a good idea. Also more accurate than some of the figures I suggested above, managed to mess up my query last time. Rider Bonus Points Rides CMA BCMA Josh Bates 0 5 2 10.00 10.00 Krzysztof Kasprzak 2 29 12 10.33 9.67 Jason Doyle 1 43 18 9.78 9.56 Matej Zagar 2 20 9 9.78 8.89 Niels K Iversen 2 43 20 9.00 8.60 Craig Cook 4 40 19 9.26 8.42 Andreas Jonsson 1 40 19 8.63 8.42 Chris Holder 1 35 17 8.47 8.24 Troy Batchelor 0 11 6 7.33 7.33 Patrick Hougaard 0 21 12 7.00 7.00 Tai Woffinden 2 12 7 8.00 6.86 Hans Andersen 2 24 14 7.43 6.86 Joonas Kylmakorpi 1 10 6 7.33 6.67 Fredrik Lindgren 6 41 25 7.52 6.56 Josh Grajczonek 2 13 8 7.50 6.50 Max Fricke 1 8 5 7.20 6.40 Chris Harris 3 32 20 7.00 6.40 Jacob Thorssell 0 17 11 6.18 6.18 Robert Lambert 6 25 17 7.29 5.88 Kim Nilsson 4 19 13 7.08 5.85 Krzysztof Buczkowski 1 10 7 6.29 5.71 Brady Kurtz 1 8 6 6.00 5.33 Nick Morris 2 16 12 6.00 5.33 Nicolai Klindt 1 13 10 5.60 5.20 Lewis Bridger 1 5 4 6.00 5.00 Rohan Tungate 2 10 8 6.00 5.00 Sam Masters 1 15 12 5.33 5.00 Richard Lawson 3 12 10 6.00 4.80 Scott Nicholls 7 20 17 6.35 4.71 Danny King 2 14 13 4.92 4.31 Kyle Newman 1 1 1 8.00 4.00 Piotr Swiderski 2 3 3 6.67 4.00 Joe Jacobs 1 2 2 6.00 4.00 Edward Kennett 1 4 4 5.00 4.00 Kacper Woryna 0 1 1 4.00 4.00 Mads Korneliussen 0 2 2 4.00 4.00 Peter Karlsson 0 1 1 4.00 4.00 Rory Schlein 0 1 1 4.00 4.00 Sebastian Ulamek 0 2 2 4.00 4.00 Paul Starke 0 5 6 3.33 3.33 Szymon Wozniak 3 8 10 4.40 3.20 Jason Garrity 3 4 7 4.00 2.29 Bjarne Pedersen 0 4 7 2.29 2.29 Justin Sedgmen 0 4 7 2.29 2.29 Josh Auty 0 1 2 2.00 2.00 Aaron Summers 0 2 5 1.60 1.60 Kai Huckenbeck 0 1 3 1.33 1.33 Adam Ellis 0 0 2 0.00 0.00 Antonio Lindback 0 0 1 0.00 0.00 Charles Wright 0 0 1 0.00 0.00 Davey Watt 0 0 1 0.00 0.00 Grzegorz Walasek 0 0 1 0.00 0.00 Kyle Howarth 0 0 1 0.00 0.00 Lewis Rose 0 0 1 0.00 0.00 Richie Worrall 0 0 1 0.00 0.00 Steve Worrall 0 0 4 0.00 0.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Great stuff scb. Highlights what a bargain Klindt is, when he is available on essentially his El heat 15 average, when other riders are coming in on their pl average or El x 1.4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Hope your listening to the supporters here Neil Watson Kylmakorpi please Neil and no Sarjeant. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 If I were Coventry I wouldn't take Sarjeant again. Tapes exclusions bore me. The thing that shot out for me in SCB's stats on heat 15 was that Kasprzak rode allot less in heat 15 than most riders of his perceived standard in Holder, Lindgren, Doyle, Jonsson & Iversen. I think that says allot. Same can be said of Zagar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) It proves even with inflated averages, strong teams can be made. Poole have formed a very competitive team and our strongly rumoured team would be eaten alive. Imagine likely teams: Kaspazak, J Holder, Kurtz, Newman, Andersen, Klindt, Shanes AGAINST King, Kerr, Garrity, L Bjerre, K Bjerre, Bates, Sarjeant Would be a repeat of last year with not enough heat leaders and too many reserve like riders. Sarjeant was dreadful away from home and scored a lot of 0s. With this format he would strengthen us and Kerr definitely wouldn't in the top 5. We need a good top 5 so Bates stays at reserve Edited November 24, 2016 by mdmc82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bees_Man Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 I see another year of struggle with our rumoured side. Where are the heat winners coming from? Away from home we'll be on the end of some serious tonkings! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 I see another year of struggle with our rumoured side. Where are the heat winners coming from? Away from home we'll be on the end of some serious tonkings! E'bourne used to be terrible away from home. Yet at home they were nigh on unbeatable and used to regularly qualify or threaten the play off places. Get a team that is good at home and you'll also keep the crowd numbers up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 The thing that shot out for me in SCB's stats on heat 15 was that Kasprzak rode allot less in heat 15 than most riders of his perceived standard in Holder, Lindgren, Doyle, Jonsson & Iversen. I think that says allot. Same can be said of Zagar. And Danny King was the worst of the regular heat 15 riders! And will be in heat 13 too next season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bees_Man Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) Yes looking iffy for Bees, especially with our rumoured side Edited November 24, 2016 by Bees_Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 As Mr Horton went to the AGM fighting for more cost cutting, it was always unlikely that he would be spending big on his team building.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 As Mr Horton went to the AGM fighting for more cost cutting, it was always unlikely that he would be spending big on his team building.. Well I hope he enjoys the cutting of income from gate receipts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 I see another year of struggle with our rumoured side. Where are the heat winners coming from? Away from home we'll be on the end of some serious tonkings!That's what it is rumour it won't be that team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 As Mr Horton went to the AGM fighting for more cost cutting, it was always unlikely that he would be spending big on his team building.. Can't expect big crowds then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Why don't you wait until the team is announced before you start moaning.yesterday everybody was possative now because Poole have announced Kk which we know would happen you are all moaning 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) Why don't you wait until the team is announced before you start moaning.yesterday everybody was possative now because Poole have announced Kk which we know would happen you are all moaning I have no idea why people just assume the rumoured team is the actual team, especially as it was posted by people om social media fishing for bites. Even the last team I put up had the 4 riders that are signed, it wasn't rocket science they'd be at the club. It might turn out to be the team but I highly doubt it. Edited November 24, 2016 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 I have no idea why people just assume the rumoured team is the actual team, especially as it was posted by people om social media fishing for bites. Even the last team I put up had the 4 riders that are signed, it wasn't rocket science they'd be at the club. It might turn out to be the team but I highly doubt it.The team I heard a couple of weeks ago would bring me back to Brandon after a year out if it happens.But I wouldn't put it on here because it might not happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 The team I heard a couple of weeks ago would bring me back to Brandon after a year out if it happens.But I wouldn't put it on here because it might not happen Fingers crossed it happens 🙏🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 The team I heard a couple of weeks ago would bring me back to Brandon after a year out if it happens.But I wouldn't put it on here because it might not happen But that's half the fun to see if it turns out to be true, so why not post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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