Steve Shovlar Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 SS you State “Each Licence as a distance protection” and mention 30 miles,so how come Peterborough changed there race day to a Sunday the same as Mildenhall, and that’s much less than 30 miles, but yet The BSPA allowed it. For distances to be less, I believe the promoter who has been there the longest can say its ok. Otherwise how would Cradley and Wolves worked out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 Yes the bspa could give a new consortium a licence. But they (bspa) would be wide open to being sued for more money than they have. If, say, they refused to give Horton a licence, and theres no reason why they wouldnt, he could just sell the club to a family member who would then apply for a licence. The only legal way new owners can come in is if they buy the club from Horton. Theres no getting over this fact. And they cant call themselves Brandon Wasps either, or operate within 30 miles of Coventry as each licence has distance protection. What some think could happen is the equivelent to someone knocking on your door. You open it and in they stroll in and say they are now going to live here now and you have no rights. I am not trying to stir the pot. Just saying it as it more or less is. And because Coventry made a 25 grand loss means nothing. Horton could have offset debts/profits from his other businesses. The value of Coventry speedway has very little to do with yearly accounts. Both owners had brought the sport into disrepute. Belle Vue for failing to pay any rent (they were basically dead in the water) and Leicester with the promoter refusing to pay his fine and attacking an official. I think they have plenty to go on not giving Horton a licence! Whoever has the licence has the right to run Speedway. Doesn't matter who 'owns' a club name, you just set up a new company, get a bspa licence and your good to go, happened at Leicester last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 is that a minus in front Yes it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) I don't think there's a speedway fan out there who doesn't want Coventry back in the top flight and on a stable footing. But boycotting the club in their hour of need is not the solution in my opinion. It will just bring about the complete demise that bit faster. Support them or lose them. Edited November 23, 2017 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 I am not trying to stir the pot. Just saying it as it more or less is. And because Coventry made a 25 grand loss means nothing. Horton could have offset debts/profits from his other businesses. The value of Coventry speedway has very little to do with yearly accounts. True to an extent that losses/profits can be moved around other businesses but he is not Branson and if you continually show losses you will not be able to get credit etc. But I was talking about the net worth of the business which as I am sure you will know is not unrelated but not the same thing as profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) https://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/save-our-bees-brandon-estates-tight-lipped-following-bees-leicester-move-funding-allegations/ A little more news. Given Horton's comments it appears quite clear that his ambition is to sell off what he can as quickly as possible. And fans are expected to support him in that are they.? Edited November 24, 2017 by Dave Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) https://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/save-our-bees-brandon-estates-tight-lipped-following-bees-leicester-move-funding-allegations/ A little more news. Given Horton's comments it appears quite clear that his ambition is to sell off what he can as quickly as possible. And fans are expected to support him in that are they.? Significant that 'Brandon Estates' refused to answer questions. The air is heavy with a smell of a Rat. Edited November 24, 2017 by The White Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) Significant that 'Brandon Estates' refused to answer questions. The air is heavy with a smell of a Rat. :sad: Have Brandon Estates ever made a comment anywhere? Other than their lawyer saying the gypsies are in and we need to build houses before they take over, there has been silence from them. Edited November 24, 2017 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Have Brandon Estates ever made a comment anywhere? Other than their lawyer saying the gypsies are in and we need to build houses before they take over, there has been silence from them. Still posting rubbish I see They have said plenty in the past, and failed to deliver on most of it. Time for you to butt out of this topic I think there's obviously too much going on for your brain to cope with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Still posting rubbish I see They have said plenty in the past, and failed to deliver on most of it. Time for you to butt out of this topic I think there's obviously too much going on for your brain to cope with. I most certainly will not stop posting on this thread for all your pathetic and frankly childish posts. Even with moronic Coventry fans like Dave Jones, its fair to say speedway fans from all clubs hope that the bees survive and come through this sad period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Well said Steve - I do think its time that this thread was put in the right section though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Well said Steve - I do think its time that this thread was put in the right section though!! Well said!!! I've always had Shovlar down as a bit of a numpty, something he is living up to these last few days on this topic. But you , although you always like to present yourself as someone " a little bit superior" i always considered you as someone with intelligence. Or is your post just a mates thing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Well said!!! I've always had Shovlar down as a bit of a numpty, something he is living up to these last few days on this topic. But you , although you always like to present yourself as someone " a little bit superior" i always considered you as someone with intelligence. Or is your post just a mates thing? Perhaps its just you coming over as the condescending fool with nothing to say other than give out abuse. Do you actually attend speedway meetings anyway? Or are you just one of those on here that talks speedway but rarely puts your hand in your pocket to attend a Coventry meeting? Just asking.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Perhaps its just you coming over as the condescending fool with nothing to say other than give out abuse. Do you actually attend speedway meetings anyway? Or are you just one of those on here that talks speedway but rarely puts your hand in your pocket to attend a Coventry meeting? Just asking.... I've actually been very close to you a couple of times this last season at meetings, I've been able to see how you conduct yourself at speedway and conclude that you still haven't grown up. I must admit I didn't manage to get Brandon last season however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 I've actually been very close to you a couple of times this last season at meetings, I've been able to see how you conduct yourself at speedway and conclude that you still haven't grown up. I must admit I didn't manage to get Brandon last season however. How I conduct myself? Lol! I am usually with a group of friends all having a laugh. How are you meant to act at a sporting event? Probably solemnly if you are a Coventry fan? Or cheer your team on and enjoy yourself like our group do at Poole. Would hate to spend any time with you at a meeting. Would probably be suicidal by heat 10! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 How I conduct myself? Lol! I am usually with a group of friends all having a laugh. How are you meant to act at a sporting event? Probably solemnly if you are a Coventry fan? Or cheer your team on and enjoy yourself like our group do at Poole. Would hate to spend any time with you at a meeting. Would probably be suicidal by heat 10! Leave them Steve they are just trying to get you to bite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 How I conduct myself? Lol! I am usually with a group of friends all having a laugh. How are you meant to act at a sporting event? Probably solemnly if you are a Coventry fan? Or cheer your team on and enjoy yourself like our group do at Poole. Would hate to spend any time with you at a meeting. Would probably be suicidal by heat 10! You really need to try and engage your brain before replying.. The big hole is getting deeper with each reply you make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 No hole here. Just a big smile on my face as you come back with more inane drivel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 No hole here. Just a big smile on my face as you come back with more inane drivel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 That's done me in for tonight The combined brains of the Poole Mafia, Shovlar & Starman teaming up against me . Time to take a step back methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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