markyb Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Daft as it might sound, but any regulation as to WHERE a club can operate from. So the first 8 meeting at Leicester - but now as it appears a franchise is in operation, could the next 8 meetings operate from Poland ? nowhere in a million years want or think that this could happen, but so pi@/ed off that a club/city/town could potentially give up its intregrity to,a different location. Actually in hindsight would rather Coventry have finished several years ago - i.e. pre Horton / Watson / Sandhu - hope those 3 sleep well at night - although unfortunately reckon they do !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke Potter Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 The BSPA should buy Brandon. Obviously they won't... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry_Bee Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 It depends on what take you want to put on it, on one hand with Brandon estates not talking it's a huge blow to the Bees. Leicester is our main hope and we can get through 2017 in one piece. If we give up then what support is that, we just watch and let the Bees fail? The future is not about the next month or year we want the Bees around for many years to come. Brandon Estates indication that they are willing to listen to other parties does indicate that they have had enough and could end up being the best news to come out of all this. Brandon as a site with good council backing could be an attractive offer to somebody or some consortium out there. To make it more than a one day a week operation for half a year with plenty of scope to do so might be an option, a better option than sitting on land for 15 years with little chance of planning or even partial planning on such a site. It is a long shot but it's still an option that many a club that have folded would snap your hand off for as once the club goes it's a huge problem to get back.We have an excellent fan base, great council support in Mr Stokes and with Stox a huge cash income then maybe somebody can use the site to its full potential. The site is the home of Coventry Bees, why we are looking for a site to build a track on while the site we have won't get planning permission is beyond common sense. Council support or even going in 50/50 and Bees/stox repay the difference over x amount of years. a learner driver training course area, car boots, markets, circus ... just income, income and more income. Anything and everything is worth looking into. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Maybe Sandhu can buy it back seeing as he has money to burn ripping out fixtures and then offering to pay for them to be put back for nothing. But then he didn't have to in the first place. Edited February 24, 2017 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 The BSPA should buy Brandon. Obviously they won't... Why should they. Why should they buy Belle Vue or any failing site/ promotion. Where do you think they would get the money from ?. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 So with the spite Sandhu showed by vandalising the stadium he has succeeded in bringing an end to Brandon stadium. Words can't discribe what I think of him. Hero I would imagine. Another step closer to your dream of the road names around the new estate built on the site of the old stadium. There's only one thing worse than a troll, and that's a hypocritical troll. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 It depends on what take you want to put on it, on one hand with Brandon estates not talking it's a huge blow to the Bees. Leicester is our main hope and we can get through 2017 in one piece. If we give up then what support is that, we just watch and let the Bees fail? The future is not about the next month or year we want the Bees around for many years to come. Brandon Estates indication that they are willing to listen to other parties does indicate that they have had enough and could end up being the best news to come out of all this. Brandon as a site with good council backing could be an attractive offer to somebody or some consortium out there. To make it more than a one day a week operation for half a year with plenty of scope to do so might be an option, a better option than sitting on land for 15 years with little chance of planning or even partial planning on such a site. It is a long shot but it's still an option that many a club that have folded would snap your hand off for as once the club goes it's a huge problem to get back.We have an excellent fan base, great council support in Mr Stokes and with Stox a huge cash income then maybe somebody can use the site to its full potential. The site is the home of Coventry Bees, why we are looking for a site to build a track on while the site we have won't get planning permission is beyond common sense. Council support or even going in 50/50 and Bees/stox repay the difference over x amount of years. a learner driver training course area, car boots, markets, circus ... just income, income and more income. Anything and everything is worth looking into. I do wonder if another Stox promoter will take on Sandhu's fixtures and then invest into the stadium. The site certainly needs to be a 12 month operation that why I've said units for shops/garage/nursery/gym etc that would only take a small proportion of the car park but makes the site owner some revenue during the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobblytriers Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Yes, put the stadium to other uses too to maximise income. Lots of potential for a site that size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Eye Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Yes, put the stadium to other uses too to maximise income. Lots of potential for a site that size. Isn't that what Sandu tried to do years ago but got knocked back on planning permission because the local roads are not up to standard? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke Potter Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Why should they. Why should they buy Belle Vue or any failing site/ promotion. Where do you think they would get the money from ?. The BSPA are the custodians of the sport. They exist to ensure the future prosperity of the sport. Does anybody within the BSPA actually realise this?!! Most people with any knowledge of the situation actually realise the BSPA repeatedly fail massively in this obligation. I put a question back to you: Why did the RFL buy the lease for Odsal Stadium? Where did they get the money from for that? Some quotes from the article below: "Peter Hood, chairman of Bradford Bulls, adds: “This deal protects the club from the kind of attack which could see someone with little affinity for the Bulls acquiring it and the land for profit. “That pressure has now been removed, the ground is owned by the RFL and the future of Bradford Bulls is at Odsal where the majority of fans want us. This is excellent news for Bradford Bulls, for the Bradford District and for the sport.” The RFL already owns the ground of Bradford’s neighbours Keighley Cougars and has stakes in several other stadia. RFL chairman Richard Lewis comments: “This arrangement is absolutely the right thing to do because it safeguards the future of one of the sport’s most famous stadia. Odsal is famous throughout the world and it would be a tragedy were the venue to be lost to the sport in the way that other evocative rugby league venues have already been lost." From: https://www.pinsentmasons.com/en/media/published-articles/landmark-deal-secures-future-of-odsal-rugby-league-stadium/ Does this sound familiar??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry_Bee Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Isn't that what Sandu tried to do years ago but got knocked back on planning permission because the local roads are not up to standard? But with Councillor Michael Stokes very much on our side it maybe easier and I don't think it was the roads that caused the issue. The road couldn't cope with the amount of cars the planned development could potentially be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fliss44 Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 I do wonder if another Stox promoter will take on Sandhu's fixtures and then invest into the stadium. The site certainly needs to be a 12 month operation that why I've said units for shops/garage/nursery/gym etc that would only take a small proportion of the car park but makes the site owner some revenue during the winter. There is a HUGE need for day care for the older adult and in particular for those living with early stage dementia.Car parking would only be required for drop off/pick up. Worth a thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrhbig Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 So is anything actually happening at Brandon to make it usable, or are they still "arguing" about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 As far as we know - false dawn was there yesterday and it was unattended an looking more derelict. Unless someone buys it from Brandon Estates ( and are they really Sandhu's family? ) I can't see it ever being put back into use as a sports stadium for speedway or stox. The sport needs a lottery winner to do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 As far as we know - false dawn was there yesterday and it was unattended an looking more derelict. Unless someone buys it from Brandon Estates ( and are they really Sandhu's family? ) I can't see it ever being put back into use as a sports stadium for speedway or stox. The sport needs a lottery winner to do that!False dawn said she drove past I will be going that way Monday I will have a look see what I can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 The BSPA are the custodians of the sport. They exist to ensure the future prosperity of the sport. Does anybody within the BSPA actually realise this?!! Most people with any knowledge of the situation actually realise the BSPA repeatedly fail massively in this obligation. I put a question back to you: Why did the RFL buy the lease for Odsal Stadium? Where did they get the money from for that? Some quotes from the article below: "Peter Hood, chairman of Bradford Bulls, adds: “This deal protects the club from the kind of attack which could see someone with little affinity for the Bulls acquiring it and the land for profit. “That pressure has now been removed, the ground is owned by the RFL and the future of Bradford Bulls is at Odsal where the majority of fans want us. This is excellent news for Bradford Bulls, for the Bradford District and for the sport.” The RFL already owns the ground of Bradford’s neighbours Keighley Cougars and has stakes in several other stadia. RFL chairman Richard Lewis comments: “This arrangement is absolutely the right thing to do because it safeguards the future of one of the sport’s most famous stadia. Odsal is famous throughout the world and it would be a tragedy were the venue to be lost to the sport in the way that other evocative rugby league venues have already been lost." From: https://www.pinsentmasons.com/en/media/published-articles/landmark-deal-secures-future-of-odsal-rugby-league-stadium/ Does this sound familiar??? BSPA does not hold massive reserves to pay for Stadium that can have a short lifespan. Why go into hock, because if one was bought another would appear straightaway and where would that money come for that one. I know you can't stand the BSPA, but you don't do joiny up common sense do you. The money that is in Rugby, either discipline, is far greater than speedway could ever hope for. It is a low capital sport, usually living in others stadia, and run by guys prepared to keep it going for the sake of the sport. Why don't you buy it ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 So he can afford £2.2 million but not £100,000? Let's get something straight. Horton can't even afford to pay someone to check on his paperwork, which this example shows is as shoddy as hell. Little wonder that we look back on several months of missed contract signing dates, slap-dash administration and sheer incompetence. And it gets no better. Check out the Half-Season Ticket Application Form download... Speechless... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry_Bee Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 http://speedwayresearcher.org.uk/ Above is a link to a great site my dad found via a Facebook link, for the older fan on here it goes back many a year. Me personally I was really keen to look at when my favourite era of 85-88 when I was young. It lists every meeting, every heat and brings back great memories and this thread has just been a nightmare come true. This post I hope can take not just bees fans but all fans back and recall happier times. The bees 87 season shows that the league cup took up half the season, the British league was only 22 meetings. Tommy Knudsen that year rode 58 meetings for Coventry. Take a look and forget about the present day speedway predicament we are in..... Enjoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 False dawn said she drove past I will be going that way Monday I will have a look see what I can see She? Serves her right for calling herself 'dawn'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Isn't that what Sandu tried to do years ago but got knocked back on planning permission because the local roads are not up to standard? No. He was knocked backed over not budging over 1m in height over a new office/stand. Planning said a metre less and it would pass and Sandhu didn't come back with a revised plan. There could be units built on suite but it would likely need a different traffic flow system introduced There is a HUGE need for day care for the older adult and in particular for those living with early stage dementia.Car parking would only be required for drop off/pick up. Worth a thought? Exactly something like this. If I could afford the site it's something I'd strongly look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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