Game On Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 In otherwords Interval. So, no more news or statements. That name Leicester keeps cropping up. I do wonder how long they are going to drag this out for.. We should no by March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 We should no by March Hopefully long before then but if its good news March would be OK. Part of the problem is the setting of deadlines. I am all for that, but you simply can't keep extending them. If there was a chance that the stadium would be saved but it was not clear at what point that would be sorted, no dead line should have been set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 The main point in this "interval or not" discussion is that all unnecessary delays need to be erased as soon as possible and this includes intervals ( 10 mins max. if essential ). At some tracks it's 20 minutes and even if you wanted a cup of something you could not get served in that time due to limited facilities. Fans ARE more important to tracks than any other aspect of speedway because if they continue "dropping like flies" from the terraces you won't need volunteers, riders or promoters. Fans needs and requests are feedback and that has been ignored more often than not by most promoters. Even simple things like " we can't hear well in this part of the stand" remain the same for years and that is not something that is expensive to remedy. Requests for feedback do not - in my experience - receive even a "thanks" email. It often feels as if the BSPA think - until recently- that the fans will always "just turn up". The most important part of what Buster said in his recent Chairman's announcement is about the budget allowing for much more and better marketing, because if that fails again to attract new fans then the fat Lady IS clearing her throat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) The main point in this "interval or not" discussion is that all unnecessary delays need to be erased as soon as possible and this includes intervals ( 10 mins max. if essential ). At some tracks it's 20 minutes and even if you wanted a cup of something you could not get served in that time due to limited facilities. Fans ARE more important to tracks than any other aspect of speedway because if they continue "dropping like flies" from the terraces you won't need volunteers, riders or promoters. Fans needs and requests are feedback and that has been ignored more often than not by most promoters. Even simple things like " we can't hear well in this part of the stand" remain the same for years and that is not something that is expensive to remedy. Requests for feedback do not - in my experience - receive even a "thanks" email. It often feels as if the BSPA think - until recently- that the fans will always "just turn up". The most important part of what Buster said in his recent Chairman's announcement is about the budget allowing for much more and better marketing, because if that fails again to attract new fans then the fat Lady IS clearing her throat.Some very good points... However... You forgot to include the often reported view of many Promoters over the years of "if you don't turn up, it's YOUR fault when I close it down"... Always the victims of circumstances, never their fault.... Edited January 28, 2017 by mikebv 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I'm sure track staff would be delighted about going to the bogs with everyone watching Hidden in full view! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 From a personal point of view I have become less tolerant as I get older. Seeing as the vast majority of speedway fans seem to be in my age bracket, unnecessary delays are unacceptable to most of us. Despite footballs many failings, the sport runs like clockwork, which Makes it appealing to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I personally think common sense should come in to play with regards to intervals. Do people who are against them think meetings should be over and done with whatever the weather, or just when it's cold. I personally have no problem with intervals in the Summer months when it's lovely and warm, but at the start and end of the season when it's like the Antarctic at most open venues, they should get on with it as quickly as possible. Common sense should be the order of the day. I certainly don't think track staff NEED a toilet break. We're talking a couple of hours here not half a day! Go before the meeting starts and they shouldn't have a problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 However... You forgot to include the often reported view of many Promoters over the years of "if you don't turn up, it's YOUR fault when I close it down"... Always the victims of circumstances, never their fault.... Somewhat ironic: Does Peterborough want a speedway club? Falling Panthers gates suggest the answer may be no. There is a problem - there just aren’t enough people coming through the turnstiles and that is hitting finances hard. In a candid insight to the club’s current situation, Mick Horton admits he is subsidising Panthers on a weekly basis as attendances are falling 200 paying adults short of their break-even mark. It’s a plight he is working hard to address and one which can’t continue long-term as he calls for the backing of the Peterborough public (www.peterboroughtoday 2/4/14) one of many down our way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I personally think common sense should come in to play with regards to intervals. Do people who are against them think meetings should be over and done with whatever the weather, or just when it's cold. I personally have no problem with intervals in the Summer months when it's lovely and warm, but at the start and end of the season when it's like the Antarctic at most open venues, they should get on with it as quickly as possible. Common sense should be the order of the day. I certainly don't think track staff NEED a toilet break. We're talking a couple of hours here not half a day! Go before the meeting starts and they shouldn't have a problem. When it is bl##dy cold, and it often is at Swindon Stadium, the meeting needs to be rushed through as there is nothing worse than standing around in the cold wind watching the gardening going on or restarts because one rider got away at the tapes. As far as toilet visits or wanting to get a cup of tea staff can pop off to the loo, a couple at a time, when the tractors carry out their racing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 When it is bl##dy cold, and it often is at Swindon Stadium, the meeting needs to be rushed through as there is nothing worse than standing around in the cold wind watching the gardening going on or restarts because one rider got away at the tapes. As far as toilet visits or wanting to get a cup of tea staff can pop off to the loo, a couple at a time, when the tractors carry out their racing Swindon can be colder than the mother-in-laws glare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) They manage not to have an interval when it suits their purpose. Did not need an interval until end of meeting at heat 13 when they had second halves. Of course portaloos on centre green is an obvious option. I do hope thats a tongue in cheek comment.. The point is everything - and I mean everything - should be done to put the paying customers needs first. Not after the promoters, or the track staffs, or the riders. What you are saying is that your paying customer will be forced to stand around for 15 minutes in potentially freezing cold conditions getting bored, dispirited and fed up so the track staff can go to the can. This thread is full of people - quite rightly - complaining about unnecessary delay and yet you agree with it. That's extraordinary. You must surely be having a laugh. Most are volunteers (I was). They also get to watch the meeting free and I am not aware of a track that has ever had a major problem recruiting them. I can certainly say that I have been to around 700 meetings across the country in the last 10 years or so and I have never known one postponed or delayed due to a shortage of track staff. The paying customer comes first, every single time. My apologies. You are absolutely right. Thing is, though, is that the matter of unnecessary delay is extremely important right across the sport. Track staff cannot leave the track untill the interval, im glad your bladder is strong . I believe you was a volunteer so you would know that., never said what you did tho. No doubt you wasnt a red flag man and a raker. Edited January 28, 2017 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scrutton Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Ever seen a meeting by (The men in Black) I think I've got the name right . as the Heats Finish the pit gate are opened and out come the next 4 It hardly gives you time to fill in you programme TERRIFIC ON A COLD NIGHT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Ever seen a meeting by (The men in Black) I think I've got the name right . as the Heats Finish the pit gate are opened and out come the next 4 It hardly gives you time to fill in you programme TERRIFIC ON A COLD NIGHT. They had a meeting at Swindon when they had about 30+ heats and the riders for the next heat were out on the track before the four from the previous heat had left it. If someone went to the loo they missed three heats, so it can be done if the weather is very cold or there is a threat of rain. I would prefer the meeting to crack on and then run a second half if the demand warrants it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I do hope thats a tongue in cheek comment.. Track staff cannot leave the track untill the interval, im glad your bladder is strong . I believe you was a volunteer so you would know that., never said what you did tho. No doubt you wasnt a red flag man and a raker. Can't believe you found it necessary to ask that question!!!!! They had a meeting at Swindon when they had about 30+ heats and the riders for the next heat were out on the track before the four from the previous heat had left it. If someone went to the loo they missed three heats, so it can be done if the weather is very cold or there is a threat of rain. I would prefer the meeting to crack on and then run a second half if the demand warrants it. That was how Speedway used to be run. Bikes and riders ready for next race as riders from preceding race returned to the pits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Can't believe you found it necessary to ask that question!!!!! Why not.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Why not.. Can't believe you asked that either!!!I Blindingly obvious I would have hoped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Can't believe you asked that either!!!I Blindingly obvious I would have hoped Entitled to ask what i like. If he was a raker or red flag man he should know that.. Told you before if you don't like what i put don't reply.. Edited January 28, 2017 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I take it that all the warring parties have gone home for the weekend to enjoy the football, a Sunday roast dinner and feet up in front of the fire? is it safe to assume that there won't be anyone to issue any press releases, twitter feeds or forum appearances until Monday next week at the earlierst? No worries. The fans are used to waiting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Someone on the Lions thread knows something that is going on but will not say anything. What ever it is it doe's not sound good for either of our teams. Take a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I take it that all the warring parties have gone home for the weekend to enjoy the football, a Sunday roast dinner and feet up in front of the fire? is it safe to assume that there won't be anyone to issue any press releases, twitter feeds or forum appearances until Monday next week at the earlierst? No worries. The fans are used to waiting. Or as promised (on Friday ) mind i'm not quite sure which Friday , I suppose it could be tomorrow as tomorrow never comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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