packerman Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Wolves last top league season was 1980, when the previous promotion left. Dan McCormick then at Cradley, I think as stadium manager (stand to be corrected) took over the promotional reigns at Monmore. He moved Wolves into the lower league (National League) and changed their race night to Sunday afternoon (!) with some Thursday nights. The combination of a lower league, all different riders (no continuity) and changed race night proved to be disastrous. I live less than 1 mile walking distance from the track but couldn't be bothered to go and I could hear the bikes from back garden (!) despite previously being an ardent fan(attended every home and away match in 1976) . Financial pressures meant that the season was cut short with a series of double-headers. I think that if the race-night had been kept the same they might have stood a chance. I did however go on some of the away coach trips to see new tracks and some were legendary Forward to 1984 and Peter Adams revived the Wolves in their traditional top league position. When Poole went belly up in 1984 It was Weymouth that saved Poole. We dropped to the National League had our race night moved to a Tuesday would you believe in 1985 (It's all Weymuth's fault we exist). Only riders I associated with Poole were Stan Bear & Kevin Smith They even changed the teamms nickname to the Wildcats.It was the best thing that happened to the team suddenly we became tittle contenders most years (OK with dodgy 2 point Australians in the team most years). Just not to follow them in the lower division is hard to believe but off race nights is the hardest part as you have a routine. Obviously Starman hasn't or he wouldn't keep banging on about Coventry using the Beaumont Park track. Can someone else tell him because I've lost what patience I had, which wasn't much in the first place. He has a point as Coventry do have options not too far away, but I know why people do not travel & after a while the novelty will wear off because it just isn't Brandon. A lot of fans will be put off by the extra traveling involved in the end and then you are dependent of the host tracks fans attending twice a week which is cost ineffective. A bit like Peterborough years ago that raced 2 or three times a week and then no meetings for a couple of weeks. It is hard on family expenses and then you start losing the habit going. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry_Bee Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 After reading Jeremy Heavers comments in the save Coventry stadium page on FB it doesn't look like much has changed. Sandhu can't get a lease and Brandon Estates just seem to be holding out. Not quite sure why all the talks have dragged on this far, I guess it's a case of watch this space or a last minute change of heart and it gets sorted. P**sed of fans and I imagine one very annoyed councilor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 After reading Jeremy Heavers comments in the save Coventry stadium page on FB it doesn't look like much has changed. Sandhu can't get a lease and Brandon Estates just seem to be holding out. Not quite sure why all the talks have dragged on this far, I guess it's a case of watch this space or a last minute change of heart and it gets sorted. P**sed of fans and I imagine one very annoyed councilor. Councillor? You're having a laugh, they pulled out weeks ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovalfan Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Playing the blame game. He was blaming it all on Horton previously for not signing the lease??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 After reading Jeremy Heavers comments in the save Coventry stadium page on FB it doesn't look like much has changed. Sandhu can't get a lease and Brandon Estates just seem to be holding out. Not quite sure why all the talks have dragged on this far, I guess it's a case of watch this space or a last minute change of heart and it gets sorted. P**sed of fans and I imagine one very annoyed councilor. If you took over a venue which had been 'vandalised' to such a degree by the outgoing owners - enough to call in the police to investigate - would you be keen to offer a new lease arrangement to the same people? - especially if the previous owners were also reluctant to sign a sub-lease with a new head-lease owner? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry_Bee Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Like speedway we go round in circles. The stox had a deal with the speedway. Speedway then withdrew the offer from what we have been told. What is the truth though? They all think they are in the right. Councillor? You're having a laugh, they pulled out weeks ago! For the hours he put in before Christmas trying to sort a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANANAMAN Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Gambo, on 21 Jan 2017 - 9:36 PM, said: Hopefully! Can't see why the BSPA can't issue the fixture list with Coventry included. Far easier to take 28 fixtures out of the list if Coventry do not run, than to put in 28 fixtures if there is a late stay of execution. I do the think the BSPA should be keeping us Supporters , ie the PAYING PUBLIC updated on the Brandon situation a little more than they are as it affects ALL clubs & riders . The only voice from Coventry on here is Neil Watson , is there anything you can tell us Neil ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) Playing the blame game. He was blaming it all on Horton previously for not signing the lease??? He did. Sandhu and Heaver probably knew that Brandon Estates wouldn't let Sandhu have the lease and let him operate at the stadium. Edited January 22, 2017 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Like speedway we go round in circles. The stox had a deal with the speedway. Speedway then withdrew the offer from what we have been told. What is the truth though? They all think they are in the right. For the hours he put in before Christmas trying to sort a deal. The stox contract ran out on 30th November. Horton's new lease was scheduled to commence on 1st (or 3rd) January but had not been signed - possibly because Horton was out of the country. Sandhu ripped out all 'his' fixtures and fittings on 30th November and started to blame Horton by 'saying' that they had a deal with Horton. Nobody has produced any evidence other than hearsay (by Sandhu's lapdog in the media) that that was the case?! Horton returns from USA having been alerted to the damage caused by the stox people and quite rightly involves Brandon Estates and equally rightly has not signed a new lease presumably until new terms are sorted and the reinstatement of the fittings has been categorically agreed in writing or the equivalent cash/penalty has been paid. If Sandhu has 'moved on' then I guess that both Brandon Estates and the speedway will still be waiting for the police investigation to be resolved, whilst at the same time looking for alternative backers to allow speedway to resume - hardly something that can be resolved with the click of fingers, however frustrating it may be for the fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 The stox contract ran out on 30th November. Horton's new lease was scheduled to commence on 1st (or 3rd) January but had not been signed - possibly because Horton was out of the country. Sandhu ripped out all 'his' fixtures and fittings on 30th November and started to blame Horton by 'saying' that they had a deal with Horton. Nobody has produced any evidence other than hearsay (by Sandhu's lapdog in the media) that that was the case?! Horton returns from USA having been alerted to the damage caused by the stox people and quite rightly involves Brandon Estates and equally rightly has not signed a new lease presumably until new terms are sorted and the reinstatement of the fittings has been categorically agreed in writing or the equivalent cash/penalty has been paid. If Sandhu has 'moved on' then I guess that both Brandon Estates and the speedway will still be waiting for the police investigation to be resolved, whilst at the same time looking for alternative backers to allow speedway to resume - hardly something that can be resolved with the click of fingers, however frustrating it may be for the fans. Sandhu as I understand is willing to put things back but isn't allowed to by Brandon Estates. It's played right into their hands at the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 I do the think the BSPA should be keeping us Supporters , ie the PAYING PUBLIC updated on the Brandon situation a little more than they are as it affects ALL clubs & riders . The only voice from Coventry on here is Neil Watson , is there anything you can tell us Neil ? To be fair to the BSPA I think they have, other than saying talks were on going I`m not sure how much more could be said. Looks like Fridays deadline has passed, for the good of speedway a decision should be announced tomorrow and we can move on with or without Coventry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) You leave Rangers out of this I live near Glasgow so im not going to mention it too often knowing what football is like here ! As for the moving to Leicester thing, it won't work. Have had two experiences of it Glasgow/Workington in 1987 and slightly different Scottish Monarchs at Shawfield in 1996. The first didn't work because it wasnt a Comets team and the second didn't work because Glasgow fans wouldn't support a Monarchs side whilst Edinburgh fans didn't want to go to Shawfield(40miles away) Edited January 22, 2017 by DW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 On someone's Facebook post Jeremy Heaver said that it's Brandon Estates causing the issues not Horton or Stox. Brandon Estates won't give Sandhu a lease I wonder why? .....Skidder1.......If Sandhu has 'moved on' then I guess that both Brandon Estates and the speedway will still be waiting for the police investigation to be resolved, whilst at the same time looking for alternative backers to allow speedway to resume - hardly something that can be resolved with the click of fingers, however frustrating it may be for the fans. Or there is another possibility of course. Sandhu and Brandon Estates are one and the same, there is no police investigation and it's all been perfectly planned to get the Speedway out, leave the place derelict ~ it's not that far off now ~ and eventually get planning permission. They've waited for years so a few more won't make much difference. The council thinking of all the tax they will get from a housing estate have second thoughts now the stadium isn't being used and planning gets the go ahead. The End. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Or there is another possibility of course. Sandhu and Brandon Estates are one and the same, there is no police investigation and it's all been perfectly planned to get the Speedway out, leave the place derelict ~ it's not that far off now ~ and eventually get planning permission. They've waited for years so a few more won't make much difference. The council thinking of all the tax they will get from a housing estate have second thoughts now the stadium isn't being used and planning gets the go ahead. The End. Yes I wish they would just put us out of our misery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Yes I wish they would just put us out of our misery Sandhu/ Brandon Estates and Heaver...feeding us all this BS constantly. They are an absolute disgrace, all of them! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 MOVE THE LOT TO OXFORD being kept back waiting for Poole to move there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Sandhu/ Brandon Estates and Heaver...feeding us all this BS constantly. They are an absolute disgrace, all of them! Yep you say it how it is my little flower, dont hold back now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Yep you say it how it is my little flower, dont hold back now.. That was me holding back! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 That was me holding back! Well you could have been a bit stronger, save for a ban.. But hey, they only ban poole fans on here, alledgedly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Surely he arrives with Middlo? He's so far up his backside I doubt he's ever out of there! He does get out of there sometimes, but only so he can disappear up Matt Fords rear end instead!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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