cityrebel Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Leicester bees, anyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 We will share fixtures with Belle Vue in the National League. Assuming we run of course How would this work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 How would this work? We were hoping you might tell us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 How would this work? I guess it'll be one team and half the home fixtures will be at Belle Vue and the other Brandon. With more home fixtures in the top division it would be difficult to fit NL fixtures aswell. Not sure it'll work but at least there is more team spaces for that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Why won't Horton just make a fkn statement We don`t need a statement. Theres nothing to say at the moment. I think most people know whats happening by now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studland Bee Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 The latest developments following the statement issued by Brandon Estates is quite alarming really for a number of reasons. Who exactly are Brandon Estates? As a business, they should know that this is a Civil matter around disputed assets and contract of sale and not something that Warwickshire Police would be interested in. The Police will not investigate this as a theft or burglary. Sandhu was the previous owner of the Stadium and at the time the property was taken had lawful access to the Stadium in the form of a lease. The key thing here is that he or persons acting for him were not trespassers. It may be, as reported that damage was caused in the removal of property, but again this in my view is a Civil matter and not Criminal. I suspect that this will drag on and we will need the services of Councillor Stokes again to help resolve this. I have heard that there is real concern around the time scales in relaying the track. I understand a period of time is needed for bonding of the sub base and shale surface. I have also heard that the electrics were removed and the work required to replace / reinstate the systems is substantial. I don’t think Mr Horton is in a position to comment other than to the negative at this stage until the issues involving Sandhu and Brandon Estates are resolved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbaynes Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 The latest developments following the statement issued by Brandon Estates is quite alarming really for a number of reasons. Who exactly are Brandon Estates? As a business, they should know that this is a Civil matter around disputed assets and contract of sale and not something that Warwickshire Police would be interested in. The Police will not investigate this as a theft or burglary. Sandhu was the previous owner of the Stadium and at the time the property was taken had lawful access to the Stadium in the form of a lease. The key thing here is that he or persons acting for him were not trespassers. It may be, as reported that damage was caused in the removal of property, but again this in my view is a Civil matter and not Criminal. I suspect that this will drag on and we will need the services of Councillor Stokes again to help resolve this. I have heard that there is real concern around the time scales in relaying the track. I understand a period of time is needed for bonding of the sub base and shale surface. I have also heard that the electrics were removed and the work required to replace / reinstate the systems is substantial. I don’t think Mr Horton is in a position to comment other than to the negative at this stage until the issues involving Sandhu and Brandon Estates are resolved. I think you summed up the position perfectly. One thing is for sure when land is sold for potential development, it is very common that a large proportion of the sale value is only received once planning permission is granted. Could this be the reason that councilor Stokes has some sway over various participants in the dispute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) The latest developments following the statement issued by Brandon Estates is quite alarming really for a number of reasons. Who exactly are Brandon Estates? As a business, they should know that this is a Civil matter around disputed assets and contract of sale and not something that Warwickshire Police would be interested in. The Police will not investigate this as a theft or burglary. Sandhu was the previous owner of the Stadium and at the time the property was taken had lawful access to the Stadium in the form of a lease. The key thing here is that he or persons acting for him were not trespassers. It may be, as reported that damage was caused in the removal of property, but again this in my view is a Civil matter and not Criminal. I suspect that this will drag on and we will need the services of Councillor Stokes again to help resolve this. I have heard that there is real concern around the time scales in relaying the track. I understand a period of time is needed for bonding of the sub base and shale surface. I have also heard that the electrics were removed and the work required to replace / reinstate the systems is substantial. I dont think Mr Horton is in a position to comment other than to the negative at this stage until the issues involving Sandhu and Brandon Estates are resolved. From what I've been told electricians were in last week to make the site safe and are back in January to start work. I understand they will sort it easily within the time frame. Edited December 13, 2016 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Let's hope they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Unless they dug into the hard track base that Coventry track has surely putting shale on top won't take long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Unless they dug into the hard track base that Coventry track has surely putting shale on top won't take long? Don`t think they would be taking great care to skim off the top surface, chances are they just got stuck in with a digger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Don`t think they would be taking great care to skim off the top surface, chances are they just got stuck in with a digger. Which would surely make the shale they dug up worthless. BV eventually laid a track in a couple of weeks. Other clubs have put down tracks in weeks. Coventry are hardly the first club to relay a track in the winter. Seriously, if this was a real issue do you actually think that Coventry would have declared intent to run in the NL 24 hours ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj350z Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Which would surely make the shale they dug up worthless. BV eventually laid a track in a couple of weeks. Other clubs have put down tracks in weeks. Coventry are hardly the first club to relay a track in the winter. Seriously, if this was a real issue do you actually think that Coventry would have declared intent to run in the NL 24 hours ago? Yes but that is just a BSPA/SGB press release isn't it Shawn? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Which would surely make the shale they dug up worthless. BV eventually laid a track in a couple of weeks. Other clubs have put down tracks in weeks. Coventry are hardly the first club to relay a track in the winter. Seriously, if this was a real issue do you actually think that Coventry would have declared intent to run in the NL 24 hours ago? Yes at Belle vue once they had fixed the base problem the track was relayed on the 3rd and 4th bend and was ready to race on in a few weeks with no further problems. Strange things going on at the momment with Coventrys problems and Belle vue still in talks with the council as to wether they will run or not .Yet as you say both clubs have declaired to run next year as a joint team in the Nat league and i would presume will soon be putting a team together i just hope the Nat league anouncment is good news for both clubs. All being well the team share will be a bit strange as Coventry have always been the team i have loved to hate but now i suppose a little part of me (the Nat league part) will have to learn to love to love ya.Strange sport speedway fingers crossed for both of us.Up the Stormy colts or whatever they are going to be called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Yes but that is just a BSPA/SGB press release isn't it Shawn? But what do you want Coventry to say? They have put the press release on the clubs website so they clearly agree with it. Right now, the club are behaving as if their are no problems now theres a few possible reasons for this. 1. They don't think there are any problems despite the fact they are because they're naive. 2. They don't want to rock the boat and add to the problems or 3. There are no problems. Everything is fine and we'll be running. Lets hope its 3, if not it's 2 and we all just have to hope and pray but if things are in a dodgy situation Horton coming out and saying so isn't going to help is it? Maybe, just maybe for once Horton is doing the right thing by saying nothing. I'm of the opinion that all this crap right now stretched back to 2009/2010 when Trump couldn't wait to go to the press and bad mouth Matt Ford which lead to the winter of 2010/2011 and it's snowballed. Just say nothing, sit tight and hope that not rocking the boat will see things come good. I don't see what can be gained by Horton saying anything right now. Edited December 14, 2016 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj350z Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 I agree with in as much as I don't expect anything to be said and as Blupanther says, they have probably been advised not to. I just don't think that press release indicates that the promotion has any intent to run in 2017. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Which would surely make the shale they dug up worthless. BV eventually laid a track in a couple of weeks. Other clubs have put down tracks in weeks. Coventry are hardly the first club to relay a track in the winter. Seriously, if this was a real issue do you actually think that Coventry would have declared intent to run in the NL 24 hours ago? Until Mick Horton declares Bees wont run obviously things have to proceed as normal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Brandon is a crime scene. No work can commence until investigation is completed by Police & insurers Speedway once again under threat https://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/brandon-estates-confirm-no-parties-involved-in-talks-amid-crime-scene-coventry-stadium-situation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 What a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Brandon is a crime scene. No work can commence until investigation is completed by Police & insurers Speedway once again under threat https://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/brandon-estates-confirm-no-parties-involved-in-talks-amid-crime-scene-coventry-stadium-situation/ Well, sorry to appear a Merchant of Doom but that looks FUBAR BUNDY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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