Crump99 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 The riders walk out at Brandon for example is/was pathetic. Riders just walk on, no introductions, no guard of honour (get the kids to do it) or any music that could get a crowd going. Get some flags for people to wave, make it look like fans are involved. A simple thing with simple solutions to get some crowd interaction. The start of a night of racing can set the tone of the night. Peterborough have flirted with getting this right over many seasons but never stick to a decent basic formula and seem to toss a coin for which effort they are going to use that night, if at all! Frost & Mahoney made a decent fist of it and somehow employed Darren Fletcher (£s I know) who was light years ahead of anything you'll hear these days, but even that couldn't save a meeting with a poor Lakeside or Belle Vue side turning up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) Peterborough have flirted with getting this right over many seasons but never stick to a decent basic formula and seem to toss a coin for which effort they are going to use that night, if at all! Frost & Mahoney made a decent fist of it and somehow employed Darren Fletcher (£s I know) who was light years ahead of anything you'll hear these days, but even that couldn't save a meeting with a poor Lakeside or Belle Vue side turning up. A poor meeting, match or whatever can always happen in sport. Happens in Football, Rugby and Ice Hockey but you still get the crowd interacting as the players walk out to music, guard of honour etc, it usually carries on. Speedway has even more scope for crowd interaction between races but no one takes the time to plan how to present and do it. Edited January 25, 2017 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Knocking football - that's a great way to improve speedway. I'm not knocking football per se. Simply wondering why so called football fans only watch the media hyped teams in large numbers. Probably the same in many sports but as the media tends to report football far more than any other it's natural to use that for comparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) A poor meeting, match or whatever can always happen in sport. Happens in Football, Rugby and Ice Hockey but you still get the crowd interacting as the players walk out to music, guard of honour etc, it usually carries on. Speedway has even more scope for crowd interaction between races but no one takes the time to plan how to present and do it. The basic formula (well one that suits me) has always been there, it's just not used. No planning required, just go back to basics. As this is the wrong topic for the thread at this time, my last word on this. As I said, Peterborough used to be good but has lost it over time. Think afternoon speedway only makes it worse as it has all the excitement of a Sunday picnic. Edited January 25, 2017 by Crump99 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) If they ever play that god awful Tune that's often played at lower league football grounds when someone scores , Then that's me and speedway finished !!! Edited January 25, 2017 by WestGorton1884 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 The basic formula (well one that suits me) has always been there, it's just not used. No planning required, just go back to basics. As this is the wrong topic for the thread at this time, my last word on this. As I said, Peterborough used to be good but has lost it over time. Think afternoon speedway only makes it worse as it has all the excitement of a Sunday picnic. Someone who hasn't been to Scunthorpe. Im someone who job it is to make sure the right music and sounds are fired at the right time on TV shows. I understand how light and sound can make a monumental difference. I've stood on the set in Pointless without and sound and light and see the tower count down from 100 to 0 and it does nothing. Then turn the lights on, crank up the sound and watch/listen as the tower starts at the top and then hits the bottom and the noise and lights make it. The tower hitting zero on its own does nothing. Speedway is the same, a great speedway race is nothing if you're not surrounded by others getting excited to loud, fast paced music. Lighting is harder to control due to stadiums being outdoors. Yes it is. A great speedway is a great speedway race and it doesn't need music, others around or anything else to be just fantastic. Having said that, you are absolutely right about creating an atmosphere with the right music and effects. It makes a difference for certain. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Someone who hasn't been to Scunthorpe. Given the distress signals the promotion have put out in recent times then nor has anybody else.: "SCUNTHORPE promoter Rob Godfrey has revealed that the meeting on Bank Holiday Monday, August 31st could be the final-ever Scunthorpe Scorpions’ fixture at the Eddie Wright Raceway, unless there is a telling increase in attendance levels at the North Lincolnshire venue for the rest of the 2015 season." I assume that was rectified in 2016 and the fans are flooding in now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barncooseboy Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 sports journalists believe that because their collegues major on football they should too in order to get their names in the paper as the reporter at a prestige game. the tv companies seeing all this, what was originally club generated publicity have decided they must jump on the football bandwagon and offered mega money to get the matches away from the terrestrial tv companies I,e BBC and ITV. The excessive money on offer from the new tv in itself filtered through to the clubs and allowed them to get sports journalists in their pockets ensuring more publicity for their club in national and regional print media . Newspapers have a limited number of pages, so the sports other than football have been squeezed out of the pages because the journos have got used to the freebies and inducements that the football clubs are able to offer ans concentrate on the one that enhances their pockets. editors see all the copy coming in about football and think must get all these stories in the paper, therefore rugby, people racing, sailing, hockey, and all forms of motor sport get squeezed from the pages. One regional sports editor admitted that when speedway closed in his area, where there are no football clubs in the national league system his papers sales fell by 25% speedway needs what used to be called a fleet street journalist to adopt the sport, write good copy and get it into the national press on a regular basis, concentrating on the skill of the sportsmen involved before speedway can be taken seriously by the other media people who like most people are like sheep and will start to follow because they adopt the there could be a few bob to be made here mindset. talking of lights and doing things differently, anybody visit the Moto Parc in Cornwall with the cliffs around the track colour floodlit, the spinning wheel that rotated around the cliff walls as well and one of the best race tracks in the country at that time.Air traffic control had to be informed when using the SKYTRACKER because projected straight up it went 14 miles.Think it was the first track to feature weekly fireworks as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonmole Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 sports journalists believe that because their collegues major on football they should too in order to get their names in the paper as the reporter at a prestige game. the tv companies seeing all this, what was originally club generated publicity have decided they must jump on the football bandwagon and offered mega money to get the matches away from the terrestrial tv companies I,e BBC and ITV. The excessive money on offer from the new tv in itself filtered through to the clubs and allowed them to get sports journalists in their pockets ensuring more publicity for their club in national and regional print media . Newspapers have a limited number of pages, so the sports other than football have been squeezed out of the pages because the journos have got used to the freebies and inducements that the football clubs are able to offer ans concentrate on the one that enhances their pockets. editors see all the copy coming in about football and think must get all these stories in the paper, therefore rugby, people racing, sailing, hockey, and all forms of motor sport get squeezed from the pages. One regional sports editor admitted that when speedway closed in his area, where there are no football clubs in the national league system his papers sales fell by 25% speedway needs what used to be called a fleet street journalist to adopt the sport, write good copy and get it into the national press on a regular basis, concentrating on the skill of the sportsmen involved before speedway can be taken seriously by the other media people who like most people are like sheep and will start to follow because they adopt the there could be a few bob to be made here mindset. talking of lights and doing things differently, anybody visit the Moto Parc in Cornwall with the cliffs around the track colour floodlit, the spinning wheel that rotated around the cliff walls as well and one of the best race tracks in the country at that time. Air traffic control had to be informed when using the SKYTRACKER because projected straight up it went 14 miles. Think it was the first track to feature weekly fireworks as well. Doesn't Peter Oakes do that ... or try to at any rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) One good question. The Bees where promised a new stadium before Brandon closed. So what happen to that little venture. We keep hearing from both councils that there is now land available to build a new stadium, I am sure that out there in both Coventry and Rugby, there must be numerous brown field sites lying vacant derilect and un-used for year, so why can't they use one of these. Not in the right place I presume, there has got to be load of sites like these well away from housing, that could be used. Come on Bees fans bombard the councils with e-mails asking them what the hell is going on out there. Ask them if they have evn looked into the fact there is land out there standing idle instead of sitting in a nice warm office, if they race at Brandon this year, then what happens next year, a new stadium is the only answer. The best way forward is one owned by the Bees fans. Anybody got a big back garden going to waste. Edited January 25, 2017 by weatherwatcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Sorry to go slightly off topic, but are Coventry racing next season ? Well, exactly. Looking at the last 2 pages, it looks like boredom and melancholy has set in. Won't be long before rigor mortis follows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 If they ever play that god awful Tune that's often played at lower league football grounds when someone scores , Then that's me and speedway finished !!! Which is ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrhbig Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) your not looking In the right place they are their with dates as well but they have got tbc by the side of them your not looking In the right place they are their with dates as well but they have got tbc by the side of themMy post said POOLE SITE , I am well aware that the fixture list has lots of TBC, but they are not on the Poole Internet site fixture list. Edited January 25, 2017 by hrhbig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 My post said POOLE SITE , I am well aware that the fixture list has lots of TBC, but they are not on the Poole Internet site fixture list. They are in a separate bit on Pooles site, along with Leicester. http://www.poolepirates.co/news/2017-01-24-fixture-release.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Any News from Horton or the Bspa today ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 If they ever play that god awful Tune that's often played at lower league football grounds when someone scores , Then that's me and speedway finished !!! Which is ????Possibly this one....and if it is I would stop going as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Any one remember Johnnies Marching Girls at Belle Vue in the 50's and 60's? Johnnie was Johnnie Hoskins. That was a feature at BV for many years. Livened up the meetings, needs something of the modern equivalent to liven meetings up. Make the delay between races shorther (tapes break - straight round again etc), re instate the 2nd half racing. Give the fans more value for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 My post said POOLE SITE , I am well aware that the fixture list has lots of TBC, but they are not on the Poole Internet site fixture list. there on main page as mdmc 82 pointed out and there is know need to shout thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Any News from Horton or the Bspa today ? Don't think so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bees_Man Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Thinks it's later today / tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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