nbaynes Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Most commercial land sales will include an uplift in the sale value based on the development of the site for housing. So highly likely Sandhu would receive a considerable additional sum once planning approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 To right that makes no sense. Can only imagine what Brandon could have been like if Sandhu hadn't sold up and spent the £2.8m on the existing stadium Just had a thought, some seem to think Sandhu is involved with Brandon Estates. Is it possible that part of the Brandon agreement of sale is Sandhu gets a percentage from the properties sold if planning permission is ever granted? £2.2m seems cheap for the size of the land available? Although you can't compare them to Brandon I shouldn't think that the tracks at Leicester, Plymouth or Somerset cost anywhere near a six figure sum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) To right that makes no sense. Can only imagine what Brandon could have been like if Sandhu hadn't sold up and spent the £2.8m on the existing stadium Just had a thought, some seem to think Sandhu is involved with Brandon Estates. Is it possible that part of the Brandon agreement of sale is Sandhu gets a percentage from the properties sold if planning permission is ever granted? £2.2m seems cheap for the size of the land available? He did want to upgrade Brandon a while back but was refused permission because he wouldn't budge over 1 metre. I think it's highly likely he will benefit from development on the site in whatever capacity, developing houses on the site will make 2.2m look like pocket money in comparison. Developing the site for housing is a long way away though. Edited January 5, 2017 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 He did want to upgrade Brandon a while back but was refused permission because he wouldn't budge over 1 metre. I think it's highly likely he will benefit from development on the site in whatever capacity, developing houses on the site will make 2.2m look like pocket money in comparison. Developing the site for housing is a long way away though. running motorsports on the site is also a long way away I'm sad to say - and I don't mean in March 2017 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 To right that makes no sense. Can only imagine what Brandon could have been like if Sandhu hadn't sold up and spent the £2.8m on the existing stadium Just had a thought, some seem to think Sandhu is involved with Brandon Estates. Is it possible that part of the Brandon agreement of sale is Sandhu gets a percentage from the properties sold if planning permission is ever granted? £2.2m seems cheap for the size of the land available? Yes indeed I'm sure Sandhu will hugely benefit from the building and sale of properties on the Brandon site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just seen some pictures taken from weekend. Damage don't look to bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just seen some pictures taken from weekend. Damage don't look to bad Just saw the same ones on twitter. Damage doesn't look as bad as described in the papers esp not to the building. It's mainly the seats and floodlights. https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffdavies170/status/817118322915471360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) All seems like a stalling tactic.Gone in MHO but really hope not Edited January 5, 2017 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just flicking through some posts and seeing about the 2.2 million it was sold for and about 5 to build a new stadium so why didn't they just use the 2.8 to improve what they have ? Maybe because the 2.2 from Party B goes to Party A for the sale Party B then builds houses and makes a 4.5 profit Question - Is there a connection in ownership between Party A and Party B ? Moving into a new stadium wouldn't be as much as 5 million if it was an existing site like an old football ground or something. Plus even if it was from scratch, laying a new track and putting in concrete terraces plus shelters for pits etc could easily be done for half that price. So if there is any connection between A and B it's basically there are new houses and a new track with 2 million profit and no money moving hands really. Or considerably more profit if the track doesn't happen !! Just saw the same ones on twitter. Damage doesn't look as bad as described in the papers esp not to the building. It's mainly the seats and floodlights. https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffdavies170/status/817118322915471360 Fixtures and fittings includes bars, tables, kitchen equipment etc so to get it back to a standard to be fit for the public it could be considerably more to put right and meet all standards. Leicester hope to start signing riders soon and if the two clubs don't join together, with 16 home meetings each, I'm sure they could still track share if required to. Either way I hope both clubs can get things sorted and be ready in 10 weeks time !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Run this idea through your minds folks. Mick Horton is actually in Sandhu's pocket; and on a decent bung that will make his bank balance look a tad more healthy than running speedway for a further 1-3 years. Horton fails to sign any initial agreement; and is conveniently out of the country when 'Rent-a-Wreck' turn up at the stadium. Councillor Stokes brokers a peace deal; that Sandhu agrees to in principle verbally; but fails to sign any agreement/deal that would compromise his actual intent of doing diddly-squat. Meanwhile, the Brandon Property Company, that Sandhu potentially has links to, muddies the waters by getting the old bill involved. Sandhu states he's now 'moved on' - read into that he's got no intention of making good the damage caused. I think this is what's termed 'a false flag'. Meanwhile, according to Companies House, Brandon Estates Ltd, who were registered in Sutton Coldfield, were actually dissolved on 3rd November 2015. So WHO exactly are the people that Councillor Stokes, and The Coventry Telegraph, are actually talking to? Final upshot is that Horton can't subsequently run Speedway. The stadium doesn't get repaired. All resulting in a demolition job, and potential house building starting up sooner rather than much later. Meanwhile, the BSPA sit on their arse doing absolutely nothing of any weight. Strange? Cue their beloved leader Chapman taking the reigns at nearby Leicester. A few weeks after taking ownership, not a single rider has been signed/confirmed at Beaumont Park. A little strange? Probably not - when there's already a team going spare 20 miles down the M69. Sit back Mr. Chapman, let the Brandon charade ignite, then adopt 7 out of work riders and appear the Messiah. No doubt a few Cov Supporters may make the short trip to get their weekly fix. Win/Win for Chapman all round. I don't really do conspiracy theories - but this entire scenario has been running through my mind for a few weeks. And putting Councillor Stokes aside, can anyone doubt that it's not been an entire set up from the outset? Given the entire raft of untrustworthy herberts involved within this entire charade, I wouldn't put it past any of them to be involved collectively in one of the biggest scams in the history of the sport. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Run this idea through your minds folks. Mick Horton is actually in Sandhu's pocket; and on a decent bung that will make his bank balance look a tad more healthy than running speedway for a further 1-3 years. Horton fails to sign any initial agreement; and is conveniently out of the country when 'Rent-a-Wreck' turn up at the stadium. Councillor Stokes brokers a peace deal; that Sandhu agrees to in principle verbally; but fails to sign any agreement/deal that would compromise his actual intent of doing diddly-squat. Meanwhile, the Brandon Property Company, that Sandhu potentially has links to, muddies the waters by getting the old bill involved. Sandhu states he's now 'moved on' - read into that he's got no intention of making good the damage caused. I think this is what's termed 'a false flag'. Meanwhile, according to Companies House, Brandon Estates Ltd, who were registered in Sutton Coldfield, were actually dissolved on 3rd November 2015. So WHO exactly are the people that Councillor Stokes, and The Coventry Telegraph, are actually talking to? Final upshot is that Horton can't subsequently run Speedway. The stadium doesn't get repaired. All resulting in a demolition job, and potential house building starting up sooner rather than much later. Meanwhile, the BSPA sit on their arse doing absolutely nothing of any weight. Strange? Cue their beloved leader Chapman taking the reigns at nearby Leicester. A few weeks after taking ownership, not a single rider has been signed/confirmed at Beaumont Park. A little strange? Probably not - when there's already a team going spare 20 miles down the M69. Sit back Mr. Chapman, let the Brandon charade ignite, then adopt 7 out of work riders and appear the Messiah. No doubt a few Cov Supporters may make the short trip to get their weekly fix. Win/Win for Chapman all round. I don't really do conspiracy theories - but this entire scenario has been running through my mind for a few weeks. And putting Councillor Stokes aside, can anyone doubt that it's not been an entire set up from the outset? Given the entire raft of untrustworthy herberts involved within this entire charade, I wouldn't put it past any of them to be involved collectively in one of the biggest scams in the history of the sport. I don't believe that Buster would be in any way involved in the above X-File you've just set out... But, the trio of, [sandhu] [brandon Estates] [Mick Horton] That's a different kettle of fish.. I still think that there is time to reinstate Brandon for the season start, even if at worst, the Bees had to ride "top heavy" with away fixtures through April whilst Brandon was finished off.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I don't believe that Buster would be in any way involved in the above X-File you've just set out... I'd like to think not. However, isn't it just a little strange that to date, and with the fixtures just a few weeks away, Leicester haven't yet signed, nor Re-contracted, a SINGLE rider? If he doesn't have some inside knowledge of how the Brandon scenario is going to pan out, then he's taking a bit of a risk, isn't he? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbo Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm not sure the detective story Ihave just read is true but it certainly makes one think there is a lot of sense to be considered .What I see in Speedway Star that Leicester are now sorted and will be signing riders in the near future. As they say in advertising "Watch this space" !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbo Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Great post sums up the exsct state of Speedway 201)/7 sorry this reply is to voice of reason Edited January 6, 2017 by abbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Meanwhile, according to Companies House, Brandon Estates Ltd, who were registered in Sutton Coldfield, were actually dissolved on 3rd November 2015. Probably the only bit that's not accurate as I believe I'm right in saying this is a different company entirely to the one registered in Jersey..... or wherever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Probably the only bit that's not accurate as I believe I'm right in saying this is a different company entirely to the one registered in Jersey..... or wherever it is. Yes this Brandon Estates is based in Jersey so isn't at companies house. Just saw the same ones on twitter. Damage doesn't look as bad as described in the papers esp not to the building. It's mainly the seats and floodlights. https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffdavies170/status/817118322915471360 It's been tidied up since the last set of photos. Unfortunately it doesn't stop the fact we need the track, fencing and floodlights fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Just saw the same ones on twitter. Damage doesn't look as bad as described in the papers esp not to the building. It's mainly the seats and floodlights. https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffdavies170/status/817118322915471360These photos smack of propaganda to me - only showing "the good bits"I admire Jeff's speedway photos but there's something not right here Show us the track, fencing, shale, floodlights, circuit wall, main stand viewing areas . . . Edited January 6, 2017 by Midland Red 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) These photos smack of propaganda to me - only showing "the good bits" I admire Jeff's speedway photos but there's something not right here Show us the track, fencing, shale, floodlights, circuit wall, main stand viewing areas . . . Fully agree with this. I couldn't care any less about the 'background' things all that matters is a track that is fit and safe enough to run. It isn't at present. The Ricoh is a great facility but it wouldn't be much good if there was a hole instead of a pitch. Edited January 6, 2017 by woz01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
190557 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I see the reference to the next meeting being in March 2017 has now been removed from the website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I see the reference to the next meeting being in March 2017 has now been removed from the website. No it hasn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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