mdmc82 Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) Looking great thus far, but now it's make or break. Don't think anyone really wants Kerr or Sarg. Let's hope Horton doesn't!I agree. The riders we have signed so far look good. Add another head leader type rider plus Garrity and that would work well. 20.55 left for 3 riders. Who do people hope to see now signed? Edited November 23, 2016 by mdmc82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Will Kerr ride for cov as dont Scunthorpe ride on the same night as Coventry ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_O Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 While I agree with that, we can only judge so far on what we have an IMO, it's very good, close to excellent. I think it would take a massive cock up now to mess this team up. Even the rumoured Garrity/Kerr/Sarj wouldn't be terrible. Quite happy with the 4 declared so far and IF Lewis Kerr is the 5th rider I would class that as a good addition. Danny King 9.57 which saves 0.54 pts from his converted EL average Kenny Bjerre 8.22 one of the bargains on that average and more than capable of exceeding that. Josh Bates 5.02 saving 1.65 pts on his conv EL average Lasse Bjerre 6.64 poor 2016 but still only 24 years old and a proven 8pt PL rider and 6pt EL rider Lewis Kerr 5.98 which saves 0.74pts to his conv EL average. Moving to Scunthorpe he was averaging nearly 7.5pts in the 2nd half of the season As I said, if Kerr is confirmed that leaves 14.57pts for the final 2 riders. Need a 3rd heatleader and Max Fricke or JK would leave 4.5 -5.0 but many of those in that range are pretty ordinary. Please not Sarj as his 5.80 would mean losing 0.5pts against his EL average. My ideal choice for the last 2 would be Chris Holder 12.53 with 16yr old Parkinson-Blackburn on a 2pt average....but zero chance it will happen. So Garrity and Sarj it will be then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Will Kerr ride for cov as dont Scunthorpe ride on the same night as Coventry ? I thought they rode mainly on Sundays? Coventry would get priority anyway as a EL asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Lasse Bjerre is value on that average – I think that for reason or another the last few seasons have been troublesome for him, injuries and not entirely convinced he has ever been settled at Redcar. I expect him to be a more confident rider this year racing on a Sheffield track where he performs well, and now in a team with his brother. He feels better value than a few PL riders who are moving up, I include the likes of Robson, Bellego and probably even Holder in that. I think Lasse will be great next year And Kenneth for that matter, that's why Kenneth is in the back of my head to sign for the Diamonds Surprised if MJJ rides over here for any team TBH. MJJ has said he wants to, but that was before the changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Will Kerr ride for cov as dont Scunthorpe ride on the same night as Coventry ? The ride Sundays but occasionally on Fridays. To be honest I would be shocked if Kings Lynn don't want him on that average. In having (L) Bjerre and Bates in the team and both confirmed riding for Sheffield too, which team has priority when both are in action on same night ? Bates is a Sheffield asset and I think L. Bjerre is a Peterborough asset so Sheffield will get priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Bates is a Sheffield asset and I think L. Bjerre is a Peterborough asset so Sheffield will get priority. He's a Rick Frost asset, Rick Frost last promoter EL speedway so using the King/Birmingham criteria then we have priority over Bjerre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Fair point, but I doubt that Danny rode many heat 13s & 15s this year and I can't see him winning crucial races, especially if an away team gets an 8-1 in heat 11 or 12. Having said that, the Bees should have good strength in depth. I can't check as all my programmes go in the bin the next day (okay my own printed ones to be correct which is why I'd rather put the money towards my petrol from Leicester) but I'm pretty sure Danny rode in quite a few heat 15's. Why I'm so sure is the friend I sit with, who has also supported him at Birmingham, always said 'Oh no not Danny in heat 15 as he never does any good.' This comment then had to be retracted after the race as he rode brilliantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 He's a Rick Frost asset, Rick Frost last promoter EL speedway so using the King/Birmingham criteria then we have priority over Bjerre. Hopefully it works out like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 I can't check as all my programmes go in the bin the next day (okay my own printed ones to be correct which is why I'd rather put the money towards my petrol from Leicester) but I'm pretty sure Danny rode in quite a few heat 15's. Why I'm so sure is the friend I sit with, who has also supported him at Birmingham, always said 'Oh no not Danny in heat 15 as he never does any good.' This comment then had to be retracted after the race as he rode brilliantly. TBF, I remember running the the stats when he signed and he (Danny) had an abysmal heat 15 record. But when I run it last year he'd done quite well. Then from memory he's done well this year, I'll try and run the stats later to confirm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Not sure if Ht15 results count towards the averages. They always have done unless something has changed this year which I doubt. Both Bjerre boys are on good value averages so decent signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanr1 Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Looks pretty good so far, I've not seen Lasse ride before but I hear he's exciting to watch. We've made some good signings in terms of their averages, now it's important that we make the most of those points we have saved. The last couple of seasons we have started with a team that was 6 good and 1 poor, we need to get all 7 right. I would quite like to see Kylmakorpi back, not keen on Sarj as I don't think he will improve any more and his average is too high. Off to a decent start. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bees_Man Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Hope your listening to the supporters here Neil Watson 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 I can't check as all my programmes go in the bin the next day (okay my own printed ones to be correct which is why I'd rather put the money towards my petrol from Leicester) but I'm pretty sure Danny rode in quite a few heat 15's. Why I'm so sure is the friend I sit with, who has also supported him at Birmingham, always said 'Oh no not Danny in heat 15 as he never does any good.' This comment then had to be retracted after the race as he rode brilliantly. TBF, I remember running the the stats when he signed and he (Danny) had an abysmal heat 15 record. But when I run it last year he'd done quite well. Then from memory he's done well this year, I'll try and run the stats later to confirm Eeek. OK, maybe not that good! 13 heat 15s, 4.92 average. But the top heat 15 rider in the EL was Josh Bates! Second highest was steve brums favourite, KK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee 26 Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Hope your listening to the supporters here Neil Watson Probably too late as riders already signed I would imagine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Why wouldn't they?[/quote Thought I read somewhere that Ht 15 scores do not go towards GSA, hopefully some one can put me right one way or another. An oft repeated myth, no idea where it comes from, but has never been accurate. Eeek. OK, maybe not that good! 13 heat 15s, 4.92 average. But the top heat 15 rider in the EL was Josh Bates! Second highest was steve brums favourite, KK! 4.92 is still OK for a 2nd hl, less than you'd want for a number 1 though. If king averages around 9 this season he's done well I reckon, so just over 11 a meeting. 9.5 from his scheduled rides and 1.5 from heat 15? Probably achievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) King at home maybe Edited November 23, 2016 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Looks pretty good so far, I've not seen Lasse ride before but I hear he's exciting to watch. We've made some good signings in terms of their averages, now it's important that we make the most of those points we have saved. The last couple of seasons we have started with a team that was 6 good and 1 poor, we need to get all 7 right. I would quite like to see Kylmakorpi back, not keen on Sarj as I don't think he will improve any more and his average is too high. Off to a decent start. Lasse Bjerre is a very good rider not quite as good as his brother but i would think both are capable of improving their average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 At home maybe Who is going to cause him trouble this coming season though? Nicholls had a worse heat 15 record, Harris is comparable and Kennett was, as he is every year, a heat 15 bottle job with an even lower average from just the 4 heat 15s that Lakeside trusted him with. Hans Anderson is a fair bit ahead admittedly. Doyle is 4 points higher so not really fair to compare him to him, I bet Doyle drops more off his average than King does. Lindgren is quite a bit better but Thorsell is only marginally better but has a massive home bias. Of others likely to be in the 2017 Premiership.... Craig Cook has a brilliant heat 15 record, fair play! KK as I mentioned above has a 10 point heat 15 average. Hougaard is very good too. But then you're looking at Josh Grajczonek, Max Fricke, Robert Lambert and Kim Nilsson. Theres not a lot there that will strike much fear into King in 2017. Especially when you consider than in the PL he's ahead of Grajczonek and on a par with Lambert anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) Away.Slick tracks.Not much dirt early on.Just my op.Might be wide of the mark. Be happy if he was at Lynn next year but wouldn't expect him to ave that Edited November 23, 2016 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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