g13webb Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I said I think He will never be world champion. Of course he is a good rider and the opposition tonight was certainly not GP standard. A top 8 GP rider, but not WC. Up to this point I was agreeing with you tonight. bit to say Emil won't be World Champion is ridiculous. The man is pure class. He is up there with the very best and equal to any challenge the SGP could throw at him..... If, when he decides to ride, he will be one of the favourites to win.... Awesome Talent....... Thoroughly enjoyed an exciting meeting. When looking at the wealth of young Polish talent, you realise how far behind the other nations are. . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I'm with the minority here and think it was right to exclude zmarzlik. The fact he moved his elbow out in the direction of NKI you could see he knew what he was doing. Unfortunately for him NKI was on 1 wheel at the time (nowt wrong with that) so he lost control. Without the elbow movement NKI would have missed the corner and come out of bend 2 last. As it was zmarzlik tried making sure he was ahead of NKI and it back fired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I'm with the minority here and think it was right to exclude zmarzlik. The fact he moved his elbow out in the direction of NKI you could see he knew what he was doing. Unfortunately for him NKI was on 1 wheel at the time (nowt wrong with that) so he lost control. Without the elbow movement NKI would have missed the corner and come out of bend 2 last. As it was zmarzlik tried making sure he was ahead of NKI and it back fired. i don't think you are in the minority at all. Quite a few on here now agreeing it was the correct call. Think the ref was spot on. Not only did Zmarzlik elbow but he was turning right on Iversen at the same time. He was the primary cause of the stoppage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Can anyone tell me why only a junior rider can be on reserve? Why not any rider? Is BSI too scared of the fact that we Poles have plenty of great senior riders and just wants to make it harder for us? IT was an FIM decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Up to this point I was agreeing with you tonight. bit to say Emil won't be World Champion is ridiculous. The man is pure class. He is up there with the very best and equal to any challenge the SGP could throw at him..... If, when he decides to ride, he will be one of the favourites to win.... Awesome Talent....... Thoroughly enjoyed an exciting meeting. When looking at the wealth of young Polish talent, you realise how far behind the other nations are. . Agree with your opinions on the Polish team, the only disappointment must be how the Danes with their youth system don't seem to be keeping pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Agree with your opinions on the Polish team, the only disappointment must be how the Danes with their youth system don't seem to be keeping pace. Surely depends the quality of talent coming through, can't make them all into great riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Maybe the reserve idea is to stop the likes of Poland fiddling again with 'injured' riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 What a joke of a decision to exclude Zmarlick, she should never go near another FIM meeting in her life. Held the tapes too long as well , suprised that twit Tatum thought it was the right decision, talked up what was really a very average meeting. Junior I agree with Kelvin Tatum, I thought she made good calls all night. It's about time we had a ref (excuse the pun) with the balls to make tough decisions on first bends. Too many refs bottle it and call all four back rather than make a decision. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I agree with Kelvin Tatum, I thought she made good calls all night. It's about time we had a ref (excuse the pun) with the balls to make tough decisions on first bends. Too many refs bottle it and call all four back rather than make a decision. The ref. made good calls all night long, every one pretty much correct IMO. Maybe she should be given a chance with the GP's too as there's too many stale and at times biased refs. in that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Will the Russians get visas to enable them to ride in the semifinalAlready have them. Edited July 24, 2016 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Decent meeting, real shame g laguta was missing. Emil showed his class. Thought the ref got every call right. Danes must be strong favorites for the play offs, threw away a ton of points. Milik is great to watch! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Surely depends the quality of talent coming through, can't make them all into great riders. No,but we were told a few years ago by Philip after talking to Erik,that the next generation would be even better than Mikkel Bech/Michelsen etc.So far they haven't made the grade.Ok,f-s-p say's their development is being blocked by those riders already at the top.So we will obviously have to wait until Nicki,Neils etc retire before a new wave comes through.......I don't agree with this scenario though,but they are the experts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I enjoyed that meeting. Good that it was close until the end. Denmark actually did better than I thought they would cos of paper they looked quite weak. For me the highlight was watching Emil who made it look easy. even after being out for a while with injury, he just looks so natural on a bike. Made easy work of the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I must agree with the Zmarszlik exclusion, definitely "the PRIMARY cause" of the stoppage... Brave call and the right call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I enjoyed that meeting. Good that it was close until the end. Denmark actually did better than I thought they would cos of paper they looked quite weak. I'd say it was hard to do much worse really as Russia were obviously weakened by Lagutas absence and the Czechs relying on 1 rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 No,but we were told a few years ago by Philip after talking to Erik,that the next generation would be even better than Mikkel Bech/Michelsen etc.So far they haven't made the grade.Ok,f-s-p say's their development is being blocked by those riders already at the top.So we will obviously have to wait until Nicki,Neils etc retire before a new wave comes through.......I don't agree with this scenario though,but they are the experts Talent prevails or does he mean that the senior riders are gaining all the best sponsorship perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Talent prevails or does he mean that the senior riders are gaining all the best sponsorship perhaps? Yes,of course the best deals go to the top riders.Was it just luck the than most of the Polish top riders were on their way out just as a new generation came through?The same with Australia?Was it just luck that Denmark had a few good riders come through at one time and nothing to do with their system and we have to wait for another period of luck rather than it being anything to do with the system in place?Just like we had a burst of talent in the early 70s and then again in the early 80s.....why haven't the US had a new wave of talent now that all but Greg have retired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Can anyone tell me why only a junior rider can be on reserve? Why not any rider? Is BSI too scared of the fact that we Poles have plenty of great senior riders and just wants to make it harder for us? because Poland cheated a few years back when one of your riders was apparently injured in the FInal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Fairly predictable event, horrible race circuit as ever in Vojens. Very little passing. Denmark must be hoping the Aussie's beat the Swede's in Vasterik else they're not gonna make the final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarkens Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 because Poland cheated a few years back when one of your riders was apparently injured in the FInal. yeah 2007 in Leszno when Walased suddenly 'passed out' instead of silly ideas like u21 reserve who can only replaced an injured rider, just allow a regular reserve who can replace anyone at any given time, would definitely make things more interesting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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