Guest Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) Should speedway change completely its format and turn to that which is so successful in Japan? It is claimed that nearly one million spectators attend meetings each year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73KaI_bQ56o Edited July 21, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 It's not really about the speedway though . it's purely betting . the japanese would turn out in their their thousands to see 2 drips of water race down an pane of glass .as long as they can bet on it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Should speedway change completely its format and turn to that which is so successful in Japan? It is claimed that nearly one million spectators attend meetings each year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73KaI_bQ56o No! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Speedway on shale was banned in Japan in the late 1960s because it was apparently too dangerous - which is rather ironic seeing as they are the country that invented suicide bombers. I've actually been to a couple of these meetings. They are called "Autorace" rather than speedway, and it's just gambling - pure and simple. The riders even parade round the track on their bikes before a race so you can choose who to bet on - like horses round a paddock. It was an interesting experience but it's nothing like speedway. There's no teams, no meeting winners or anything like that. Just individual races for betting on. I remember there being a nasty crash in one race and the ambulance came onto the track, bundled the rider into the back with typical Japanese efficiency, and took him away before the riders even came round for another lap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Speedway on shale was banned in Japan in the late 1960s because it was apparently too dangerous - which is rather ironic seeing as they are the country that invented suicide bombers. I've actually been to a couple of these meetings. They are called "Autorace" rather than speedway, and it's just gambling - pure and simple. The riders even parade round the track on their bikes before a race so you can choose who to bet on - like horses round a paddock. It was an interesting experience but it's nothing like speedway. There's no teams, no meeting winners or anything like that. Just individual races for betting on. I remember there being a nasty crash in one race and the ambulance came onto the track, bundled the rider into the back with typical Japanese efficiency, and took him away before the riders even came round for another lap. I believe that competitors are kept away from the public and on two day events they are kept in isolation overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Japan is a Market BSI should look into but sadly I feel they will stick to the "'Safe" options... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I believe that competitors are kept away from the public and on two day events they are kept in isolation overnight. thats what I have heard . also the bikes are drawn by lottery , so no one knows which bike any rider will be on . no-one knows who the riders are ,so it's entirely a numbers game . quite like our speedway when trying to build a team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 thats what I have heard . also the bikes are drawn by lottery , so no one knows which bike any rider will be on . no-one knows who the riders are ,so it's entirely a numbers game . quite like our speedway when trying to build a team The riders all go by nicknames. None of them use a real name, so you could be right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Should speedway change completely its format and turn to that which is so successful in Japan? It is claimed that nearly one million spectators attend meetings each year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73KaI_bQ56o The riders all go by nicknames. None of them use a real name, so you could be right. It looks to be a 'No' vote in regard to Japanese-style speedway aka out racing gaining favour in Europe. It would also mean an end to team racing (which could a good thing!). I thought that riders were known to supporters by their real name and the nick-name was only for the benefit of the races? However, it seems that I was wrong on that point as well - thank you for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) The riders all go by nicknames. None of them use a real name, so you could be right. Was there not a rider who rode under the name Robert72? or as they called him Lobert72 Edited July 21, 2016 by tyretrax 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Was there not a rider who rode under the name Robert72? or as they called him Lobert72 He was known as Birry Riar. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 It looks to be a 'No' vote in regard to Japanese-style speedway aka out racing gaining favour in Europe. It would also mean an end to team racing (which could a good thing!). I thought that riders were known to supporters by their real name and the nick-name was only for the benefit of the races? However, it seems that I was wrong on that point as well - thank you for the clarification. Haldry crarrification. I is maybe 10 yeals ago I go to Autolace Mista Gustix-san. It just flom memoly isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybikespeedway Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 there was a Japanese rider who rode in Britain by the name of Jimmy Ogisu he rode in the Internationale at Wimbledon but was not very successful this was either late 60's or early 70's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) there was a Japanese rider who rode in Britain by the name of Jimmy Ogisu he rode in the Internationale at Wimbledon but was not very successful this was either late 60's or early 70's. Jimmy Ogisu did indeed ride in an Internationale at Wimbledon. This article may be of further interest to you? http://www.national-speedway-museum.co.uk/junuchio-ogisu.html Japanese woman rider Nanae Okamoto rode in Australia - and possibly New Zealand - in the 1960s. A Japanese speedway (not Autorace) rider Hideki Ota competed at meetings in California at one-time, no specifics as to when, but it would seem to have been the late 1960s. The three named were speedway riders NOT Auto Racers. Edited July 21, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Leicester are looking at signing a Japanese rider called Wi Wun Wonce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Leicester F.C. are signing Chinese striker Bang Wan In. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I do think it's a shame that the peedway in Kuala Lumpur closed . mauger went and set it up .and after only couple of meetings a change of sports minister meant a change of policy ,and out the window went the speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) I do think it's a shame that the peedway in Kuala Lumpur closed . mauger went and set it up .and after only couple of meetings a change of sports minister meant a change of policy ,and out the window went the speedway While Kuala Lumpur is a long way from Japan - it's in Malaysia - this was a good attempt to popularise speedway in the Far East. This is a good interesting reference speedibee and it is unfortunate that possibly for political reasons the sport failed there. Speedway first took place in Tokyo, Japan, in the early 1930s when a team of American riders including Putt Mossman, Ray Grant, Manuel Trujillo raced there. It had a major revival post-war until it was replaced by Auto Racing. There has also been speedway in China - in about 1930 a team of Australian riders raced at a track in Shanghai. Offhand I cannot recall who they were. Edited July 21, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 While Kuala Lumpur is a long way from Japan - it's in Malaya Malaysia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Malaysia. Bloody modern spellings and all.Gustix knows it as Malaya,just like he only knows where Ceylon is and not where Sri Lanka and he still talks fondlyabout his visits to Constantinople and New Amsterdam.Has no idea where Mumbai is and gets very upset when people say he lives in Penge as he remembers when it was called Penceat near Londinium!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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