Haza Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Can you really wonder at it why Rory wasn't up for it ? The injuries he's had the last thing he'd want was to ride in those conditions. Total farce I for one back the riders 100% . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Busters words to Schlien were . I am fed up with your f cking whinging if you don't want to ride you can f ck off. Buster also had another rant at him later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Busters words to Schlien were . I am fed up with your f cking whinging if you don't want to ride you can f ck off. Buster also had another rant at him later. great words from the BSPA chairman- think he should think about what Rory has been through before even thinking those words let alone saying them . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 As much as I like Schlien as a rider if he is going to object every time a track is wet he might as well retire from riding. Tracks are not perfect everywhere every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 It was so obvious to any one watching, the track was not racable. There were 4 races started, and in each one there were instances of the riders in trouble. The track was wet, inconsistent and very slippery. The shale that Buster uses don't appear to work that well in the wet and the track becomes unraceable. Years ago when it rained the track stood up better as the water drained away. Now there is nowhere for the water to run, the track gets sodden and with faster bikes, there always going to be issue with safety. Â We need better tracks, slower bikes and covers to keep the tracks dry..... What we don't need is Promoters accusing Riders for not racing...... Â I'm with you Rory........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 In speedway terms the guy's toxic. The BSPA were probably sick of his gibber jabber from the sidelines and decided to appointment him knowing he'd be this bad (well maybe not this bad) so they can oust him later and suddenly look good. Tbh anything would look good compared to this clown, please Buster, just go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 This is the same person who issued the crass statement after the opening night at the NSS. Â Forcing riders to go out on a dangerous track is not acceptable. I'm sure this was the problem last night, the ref insisted it go ahead. One rider is hurt we mustn't forget. Buster did everything he could to sort the track but it was just too wet from the thunderstorm. It was so obvious to any one watching, the track was not racable. There were 4 races started, and in each one there were instances of the riders in trouble. The track was wet, inconsistent and very slippery. The shale that Buster uses don't appear to work that well in the wet and the track becomes unraceable. Years ago when it rained the track stood up better as the water drained away. Now there is nowhere for the water to run, the track gets sodden and with faster bikes, there always going to be issue with safety. Â We need better tracks, slower bikes and covers to keep the tracks dry..... What we don't need is Promoters accusing Riders for not racing...... Â I'm with you Rory........ The material Buster has is not exactly Leicestershire Red Shale lolgreat words from the BSPA chairman- think he should think about what Rory has been through before even thinking those words let alone saying them .I hope he apologises, not one rider wanted to be out there surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Luckily there is a template press statement available on the BSPA website that can be used for last nights fiasco. It goes a little something like this..... Â BSPA Chairman Keith Chapman said: This is a massive setback to the sport in this country and it can have a negative impact on every other club throughout the UK. Â It wasnt even a BSPA event, it was down to the us to ensure the meeting went ahead under the supervision of the SCB referee and failed. Â It is the promoters responsibility and not the BSPA as an association to ensure a domestic fixture which is what this was goes ahead. Â Its an embarrassment and the rest of the sport in this country could be hit by it. A thorough investigation hasn't already started. Â Said Chapman: Its such a sorry episode but we have to move on and hopefully lessons will be learnt. Â From a BSPA and SCB perspective, we feel the need to offer our apologies to the many supporters who travelled to King's Lynn at great expense, but we must emphasise this was a Kings Lynn Speedway event. Â The SCB hasn't already launched an inquiry into the matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Damned if you do damned if you don't.Buster tried more than anyone else would have.Plenty moan about early rain offs,when a teams loosing they want it called off.Buster tried and the riders said no go.He could of got in his car and went home at 7.30.He tried but at the end of the day it's the riders risking their lives out there.My first live meeting for about 4 years. What a farce. It was quite obvious from Heat 1 that the conditions were too bad to produce any real racing. Dragging it out for so long was enough to turn many people away from speedway. I certainly will be in no hurry to go again.Don't let that put u off going on a dry night. This meeting between the two teams should be a belter eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 @Justinsedgmen Thank you @RorySchlein3 glad some one cares about riders safety ! Wasn't right the way you where spoken to as well ! Feel for ya ! #disgrace 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 have you never heard of a meeting abandoned before then. This is not the first time it has ever happened Course I ave you bleedin Muppet muppet..it was just a shame for the coachloads of fans that made that long trip from the wild west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Did any non King's Lynn patrons get their money back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 All this blame floating about, one thing seems to have been forgotten. Â Once the referee is in attendance he/she is in sole charge of the meeting. Â That being so I assume the referee thought the track race able, that work by Buster would improve conditions and the riders views were nonsense. Â Or is the referee surplus to requirements ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 @Justinsedgmen Thank you @RorySchlein3 glad some one cares about riders safety ! Wasn't right the way you where spoken to as well ! Feel for ya ! #disgrace Everyone was peed off, money lost all round,cant help the rain though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 This is not the first time this has happened at Kings Lynn. Poole were there several years ago when havvy was riding for us. There was a rain shower at 5 pm in Lynn. Nothing too bad. Got to the stadium and then watched Buster in his tractor for 2 hours making clumps of dirt the size of footballs before it was called off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 This is not the first time this has happened at Kings Lynn. Poole were there several years ago when havvy was riding for us. There was a rain shower at 5 pm in Lynn. Nothing too bad. Got to the stadium and then watched Buster in his tractor for 2 hours making clumps of dirt the size of footballs before it was called off.This wasn't just a rain shower Shovlar, it was a thunderstorm. And nothing like u describe. Don't forget the Poole hole in the track night last year before u start .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Busters words to Schlien were . I am fed up with your f cking whinging if you don't want to ride you can f ck off. Buster also had another rant at him later. If these are the type of comments that Chapman is making to riders is he really the man to take Speedway forward in this Country ? Â Judging by the way he treated the paying public last evening I am thinking he shouldn't be let anywhere near the thing. Â The guy is a total embarrassment to the Sport. Or at least what is left of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 It was so obvious to any one watching, the track was not racable. There were 4 races started, and in each one there were instances of the riders in trouble. The track was wet, inconsistent and very slippery. The shale that Buster uses don't appear to work that well in the wet and the track becomes unraceable. Years ago when it rained the track stood up better as the water drained away. Now there is nowhere for the water to run, the track gets sodden and with faster bikes, there always going to be issue with safety. Â We need better tracks, slower bikes and covers to keep the tracks dry..... What we don't need is Promoters accusing Riders for not racing...... Â I'm with you Rory........ Totally with you on this... Â Speedway now has high revving bikes, that spin out of control with the slightest bit of 'DAMP...not even wet...plus they also don't like deeper tracks. Â Tracks seem to be using material that doesn't like any water at all. Â Combine this with your normal British weather....it all doesn't add up. Â The basics of this sport are now a farce. Â We run bikes that can't be raced on anything it seems, other than slick and bone dry. We use track material that doesn't combine well or drain well with a shower of rain. We have a Sport that is notorious for rain off's because of the elements, yet have never in all the years tried to find a way of protecting the track. Â Put all those ingredients together...and you have got a complete no go. Â Why the people that run this sport can't see it, I don't know. Â Also as a rider...why put up with it? All the travel and costs for all these rain offs....complete joke of a sport now tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 So do the FIM need to look into the engines used now and how they handle on difficult tracks? Â The fans are powerless, it's down to the top brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 So do the FIM need to look into the engines used now and how they handle on difficult tracks? Â The fans are powerless, it's down to the top brass. Tracks are not difficult...unless bone dry and slick. That's not going to happen consistently unless riding indoors. Â These high revving bikes make the rear wheel spin to such an extent, that they just don't grip on anything that's damp. Â It's very simple...produce tracks with material that is more resistant and easier to drain from water...like in years past, introduce track protection...they found money for air fences...they can do the same. Standardise engines to certain tolerances, that are condusive to racing on a surface that isn't always bone dry and slick...it's not rocket science...is it :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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