BWitcher Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Nope, didn't say that, there have been fewer falls at home Colts meetings than Wolves meetings though. Which proves a point I made a while back about the Aces new track. I'm not disputing it's a great facility, but in terms of the racing, its the bike more than the rider that wins the races. Actual skill required is pretty limited, very easy track to ride, as you evidence yourself. Of course there are more mistakes at Monmore, its a much harder track to ride. Rider skill plays a much bigger role than at some tracks. Before you go off on one, I'm not saying one track is better than another, just totally different animals. Edited July 19, 2016 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Nope, didn't say that, there have been fewer falls at home Colts meetings than Wolves meetings though.Yes of course, your knowledge of all wolves meetings is interesting.Perhaps at our next few home meetings you can come and stand with me while im doing the updates to remind me how many more fallers we have. I wasn't aware you were a regular Monmore green regular, that can be the only explanation for such an in depth knowledge of all things Monmore. Edit. Just checked on updates site and all but one of the colts matches had at least 1 faller including what was described as a bad crash. Seems you were wrong when you said you can't remember a faller at any of the colts matches. Accidents happen at all track, no one track is any safer than the other. Edited July 19, 2016 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 If you can twist my post to mean the Colts are virtually world beaters (Dan Bewley, remember the name) I've no doubt you've also twisted a riders comment in a similar wacky way and came up with your 'relish', lol! Lol! The track was unfit but it was not breaking up as much as coventry where the riders were forced to ride. You see you still keep getting it wrong, ha ha! Look around the eyes not into the eyes " No you are in the wrong ,the meeting was abandoned without a race being run " And your back in the room ! The opening night never happened. The riders bottled it just like Warsaw. NSS on opening night and Warsaw brought change and,for the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 I thought you said I said there are no falls or wobbles at Colts meetings, how would going to wolves help? You did say that and you are wrong. Updates had fallers in all but 1 of the Colts matches. Perfectly expected. You seem expert on all things Monmore, I assumed you were a regular by the way you throw around facts (or fiction) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Wolves looking good again. PK top notch! What's the latest with JK? What a difference a day makes - zero for PK in Sweden tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 I came to appreciate small tracks and until PCs track was ballesed up in 2005 I was lucky to have a fantastic home small track, it was only about as good as any other track inside a dog track after then. I agree 100% tracks like the dog track and monmore finds out the full throttle and not much else riders. I'd still rather watch a rider race another without having to worry about how hard the track is to ride though. That's fair enough, often the type of track you prefer is the one you are brought up on so to speak, as you had Hyde Road as your home track you will always favor the bigger tracks. Likewise myself with Monmore. That being said, good speedway is good speedway regardless of the track size or shape. Personally I prefer a greater element of skill rather than the engine being the most important ingredient. At this moment in time I think the engine/setup is much too important at the NSS... however, that should change as time goes on and the track continues to bed in. Kirky Lane, as you say used to produce some fantastic racing. I was a regular there from when the track opened through to around 1992/3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) As for your crass comment about the wobbling, when the National League lads ride at Belle Vue they don't fall off or even wobble much as was reported last night either. [quote name="Fred Flange" post="2817070" timestamp="1468964076" You posted "However according to you it never happens at colts meetings." You are going to have to quote me otherwise you will look stupid Oh, hang on quoting me will make you look stupid anyway, lol! Who fell off in the last Colts meeting at Belle Vue? Hope it doesn't make you look too stupid As already mentioned every Colts match bar one have fallers including serious crash according to Updates site. Probably never really happened tho I suppose. Hope the pie you are eating isn't too humble. Edited July 19, 2016 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Lol! So I didn't say "it never happens at colts meetings." Thanks for clearing that up, ha ha ha! You've imagined a comma in that sentence haven't you? Quite literally a schoolboy error, ha ha! I can see how you think "most riders relish visiting monmore." Lol! Enjoy watching the colts matches where nobody falls or wobbles. Priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) What a difference a day makes - zero for PK in Sweden tonight. For some reason his Swedish scoring has been erratic for a number of seasons ,I accept that the standard his higher now but his EL scoring even when the league was stronger always seemed so much more consistent .IMO British tracks demand a greater level of skill rather than the raw power of the continental tracks and are more suited to his style of riding . Edited July 20, 2016 by FAST GATER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZodiac Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Having calmed down after last night's meet I've been having a look at league table & remaining fixtures. Now I might be a tad slow these days but didn't realise we've already done 12/14 away fixtures with just KL & Dorsetshire left. It's looking reasonably handy with BV having 5 away left. I think it will still be tight for who finishes top as I can't see us picking up any more points away from home. Our away form seems to have deserted us which will make an aggregate win in the play offs difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Never have I said there is no passing at Monmore, The track is notorious for riders getting the corners wrong and many passes are created by errors. Some riders have the wrong idea of the fastest line, some go chasing the dirt when the inside line could be quicker. No there are many passes, but what I pointed out that when a home rider hits the front he usually knows the quickest route and therefore how to keep the opposition behind him.... that's just home track advantage. surely one of the main factors when building a team over the winter is to build a team that is strong at home. win those home matches and keep the home fans coming back. can only beat what is put in front of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Just had a quick read through the thread to see why you got yourself in such a pickle and I read the edit to this post. You not only said "However according to you it never happens at colts meetings" you've even said in the edit to this post "Seems you were wrong when you said you can't remember a faller at any of the colts matches." Lol! I've no idea what planet you were on last night but I didn't say that either? Did the bloke that put new science into a gormless stupor do it to you as well? Perhaps you just need to be more widely read, Janet and John book 1 would be a good place to start, ha ha! Ah bless. Still going on and on about it. You said riders who ride at NL level at the New stadium don't fall or wobble.get over it and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Just had a quick read through the thread to see why you got yourself in such a pickle and I read the edit to this post. You not only said "However according to you it never happens at colts meetings" you've even said in the edit to this post "Seems you were wrong when you said you can't remember a faller at any of the colts matches." Lol! I've no idea what planet you were on last night but I didn't say that either? Did the bloke that put new science into a gormless stupor do it to you as well? Perhaps you just need to be more widely read, Janet and John book 1 would be a good place to start, ha ha! That's not very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 I thought Gavan and paperboy from Poole had changed their login names for a while there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 That's not very nice The poster isn't. That's what I thought, although posing lies to score points is more stupid than not nice imo, especially when it can be checked so easily. It may have been a genuine mistake but he repeated it again today so all bets are off. I doubt he will be back on this thread though, no integrity to own up he has skulked off with his tail firmly between his legs, ha ha! Yes of course. I completely imagined you said to new science that there were no fallers or wobblers at the colts meetings then tried to worm out of it and then somehow ignored that point when I pulled you up on it. Anyway facts are there. Don't be too embarrassed yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 As for your crass comment about the wobbling, when the National League lads ride at Belle Vue they don't fall off or even wobble much as was reported last night either. Did you really not say this in reply to New Science?? You actually quoted my post, yet you keep lying Why are you a liar? Lol! Why are you a liar? ? None of the NL riders fall off or wobble at Belle Vue, of course I'm wrong in stating you said it. Priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) They do say don't kick a man when he's down but I'll make an exception for this thread because they also say never look a gift horse in the mouth, ha ha! This is what you've got muddled up over Wrong! Wrong again, lol! Wrong yet again, lol! Wrong yet again, how many times? Best bet is instead of relying on your fading short term memory or even worse deliberately misquoting in a gormless attempt to save face, just use the excellent 'quote' option, it might stop you looking mental. On second thoughts just keep misquoting, lol! You've done it again!! If something doesn't happen much it doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all does it? #infantschoolenglishfail Nice attempt to explain the whole story.Still the comment stands in or out of content. Try explaining it again to try worm out of the quoted part. It's your only hope of maintaining some integrity. Lost it a long time to me by dominating a thread nothing to do with Belle Vue trying to petty point score that Wolves have more crashes than most other tracks. Petty and sad but carry on as expected. Edited July 20, 2016 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Hmm, no answer oh well I'm not ready to let this go yet. it does seem odd that "most riders relish coming to monmore". best read more widely. It's not at all odd that a lot of riders enjoy riding at monmore. It probably has something to do with it being well prepared. Still boring on with this I see. lots of things are 'odd' in speedway. The rules for one, plus a high profile meeting being called off at the national stadium because the track was known to be not ready for racing. Even the national stadium has races when people fall off, get over it. It makes diddly squat if some tracks have more fallers than others because there can be many reasons for that happening. To try and make more of it is just trouble causing. It's clear you subscribe to the latter. Perhaps you can provide us all with some stats on which tracks have the most falls and wobblers (you have an obsession with that word) versus track conditions versus weather conditions versus league standard. I'm sure someone equally as odd as you will be as interested, it might give you something to do with your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Let's retitle this page Fred Flange thread. It will be another self righteous cause no doubt. Bore off. Let's just assume that he is right so he can take his sanctimonious rant to another tread. (Queue tons of like buttons as his point is proved). back in the real world however no one gives a flying fig. Some people really do need to get out more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 And still it bores on. Can we have our thread back please. Shame your obsession is getting the better of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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