stevethelion Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 These couple of showers we had between 5pm and 7.30pm were ultra localised, and isolated, but the second shower was torrential, but by 8pm the sky had cleared to a pleasant evening.... The riders from Kings Lynn did not want to race, not even prepared to give it a go.... I was the lonesome puddle drier after the bowser went off, I stayed out and managed to get rid of 90% of the laying water, sometimes, it's best to keep riders, track staff, management off the track after heavy rain as it doesn't take much to make the track look worse than it is.... and sometimes, once the big puddles are gone, just let mother nature do its stuff for half an hour and re assess the conditions... As I said, the base was sound and would have taken a tyre on it quite well, it would have taken 4 maybe 5 heats to develop a dry line or two, but racing/grading/racing/grading quickly dries even the most saturated shale out!! I really can't fathom why further track work wasn't carried out/asked for by the ref, and then a delayed start as there was a good crowd in, some had only travelled 10 miles and coulnt understand why we were so wet!! As I said, really really isolated torrential rain that caught us out. Also, the ref didn't seem that interested either, everyone who should commit 200% to getting a meeting on, apart from the track staff did naff all to get it on, Inc the ref... Very very, very disheartened by it all.. Roll on the close season, and I have never, never ever thought like this before.... Was the track watered earlier? If it was, that was surely a mistake. I saw the BBC forecast on TV at lunchtime & it showed that narrow band of rain directly over the area from about 4.00pm-7.00pm, admittedly it did say the rain would be light & patchy, which it wasn't. Surely if the track had been bone dry it would have absorbed the amount of rain we had fairly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedflash Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 Yes the track was watered. Met Office showed no rain forecasted. I will always water as I hate dust the fans don't want to go home covered in red dust. Kinglyn did not want to ride simple as that. Glyn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 Yes the track was watered. Met Office showed no rain forecasted. I will always water as I hate dust the fans don't want to go home covered in red dust. Kinglyn did not want to ride simple as that. Glyn So the KL fans should claim their fuel money back from there riders as they didn't want to ride on Saturday and wanted it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted July 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 Was the track watered earlier? If it was, that was surely a mistake. I saw the BBC forecast on TV at lunchtime & it showed that narrow band of rain directly over the area from about 4.00pm-7.00pm, admittedly it did say the rain would be light & patchy, which it wasn't. Surely if the track had been bone dry it would have absorbed the amount of rain we had fairly well. Track was watered, no sign of any rain around, even on the high res rain radar I pay for.....! Like I said, temps blew through the forecasted afternoon high (21c-22c) and peaked around 25c which initiated convection, which morphed the light showers into saturated monsters!! Even if water had not gone down on the track, it wouldn't of made a blind bit of difference, the second shower was torrential, but as I said, the track was recoverable.. But, KL did not want to get wet as well as tonked!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 But, KL did not want to get wet as well as tonked!! Let me guess......lead by Troy Batchelor and Rory Schlein. Aussie rules. Who was the referee? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Referee was Margaret Vardy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 We sat in car and waited for a decision, just about to go to to ticket office so we were lucky, Mimmo, we will buy your ticket if we are able to go to re-arranged date. Could use another concession if one is going folks. Maureen, I have two tickets if you want them both, because as things stand, I never intend going to Leicester again. Please confirm if you want them both, and I'll bring them along on Wednesday. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted July 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Let me guess......lead by Troy Batchelor and Rory Schlein. Aussie rules. Who was the referee? The other way round, but basically correct..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Another bad day for British Speedway, no doubt, there were riders that had more lucrative meetings today in Poland, and didn't want the hassle of racing a wet track, just wanting to get packed away, and off to the airport.. Confirmation if ever it was needed that UK league speedway is best served by only using riders 100% committed to riding here If you want to ride in Poland, Sweden or wherever, "on your bike" One big league in the UK with sufficient meetings to keep the riders fully occupied over here, seven days a week Plus development league where applicable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 One can well understand if Rory and Batch were dubious about racing on that track given their injuries this year. We're getting away from the main culprits though, the ones who opened the ticket office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 One can well understand if Rory and Batch were dubious about racing on that track given their injuries this year. We're getting away from the main culprits though, the ones who opened the ticket office. Buster never opens the gates and let's people in for a rain off does he I like the fact King's Lynn called it off so we didn't get a tonking. At least we didn't go to heat 9 and then get it called off because we were getting thrashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 You're right Trees, this isn't a rider issue, because the track was clearly un-raceable. It was the arrogant attitude of a senior official after the call-off, and none of the promotion knowing what we had to do with our tickets if we wanted a refund. I quite believe that King's Lynn didn't want to ride, but I can't honestly believe Leicester wanted to either, so there's little point at pointing the finger at just King's Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Buster is far from an innocent one where rain offs are concerned. How many times have we had Saddlebow declared fit and ready to race despite the rain, only to rock up and find the meeting is delayed while X amount of tones of slope are removed from the track, followed by a poor meeting on a bladed track. Buster caught me on that little joke once to often. Never again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 This postponement has shown up the weaknesses of the Elite league in glorious technicolor.As a business model it isn't viable. There is way too much risk exposure, having huge vulnerability to the laws of Sod and Murphy. Have a high concentration of matches in April, when those brave enough to attend have to spend an evening having their nollocks frozen off, and compete for customers and media attention with football with attendances and income reduced accordingly.Then,in the height of summer, have a scarcity of fixtures,with additional risk if one of them is postponed (or gets mucked about due to a clash with something on the telly) of limiting the lifeblood of income at a time when income should be maximised. It's bonkers, completely crackers. If I went to a bank to ask for finance to start up a business with this model, they ought to send me packing!! So it's hardly surprising if Leicester took people's money if they decided to cross the threshold. They also had riders money for two away matches to cough up. From the postings on here of Kevin and Glyn, (the guys who know the track best) there was a fair chance of it going ahead, given more time. It's a shame it sounds like the Leicester promoters dealt with it a bit ham-fistedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Probably the Leicester track staff really ought to not have come on here giving their stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Probably the Leicester track staff really ought to not have come on here giving their stories. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 BSPA and all regs 14.7.1 say is that the promotor must ensure that “ the BSPA approved Readmission policy notice is appropriately displayed” and that when a meeting abandoned before completion of heat 10 “bring to the attention of spectators arrangements regarding the validity of readmission/ reduced admission tickets. Full details should be available at the entrance” There was no notice at the entrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenbears Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Let me guess......lead by Troy Batchelor and Rory Schlein. Aussie rules. Who was the referee?Get a grip on yourselves please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 BSPA and all regs 14.7.1 say is that the promotor must ensure that “ the BSPA approved Readmission policy notice is appropriately displayed” and that when a meeting abandoned before completion of heat 10 “bring to the attention of spectators arrangements regarding the validity of readmission/ reduced admission tickets. Full details should be available at the entrance” There was no notice at the entrance. People should claim for the cost of admission plus the cost of postage claiming it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 BSPA and all regs 14.7.1 say is that the promotor must ensure that “ the BSPA approved Readmission policy notice is appropriately displayed” and that when a meeting abandoned before completion of heat 10 “bring to the attention of spectators arrangements regarding the validity of readmission/ reduced admission tickets. Full details should be available at the entrance” There was no notice at the entrance. I bet there is now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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