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Heat 7 from Sunday's EWR action feast, a total humdinger and probably the best non-passing race you will ever see!

 

https://youtu.be/i9LaXp4q44w

Cracking stuff! Thanks so much for posting. Fisher's move between the Scorpion's pair in the first two bends was sublime, as was the team riding afterwards, but what an effort by all 4 riders, and if it had ended 5-1 the other way no-one could have complained!

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Firstly as I had previously mentioned, Glasgow only rode 2 Challenge Matches throughout October 2009, so how could they have had "an awful October" ?

 

On the BSPA Website - under the heading - 2009 Premier League Greensheet Averages, Mitchell Davey is listed as 3.77.

 

What you are referring to is called - 2009 Premier League Team Declarations.

 

As the BSPA has differentiated between the two categories, when referring to Greensheet Averages for 2009, is it not logical to refer to the one named 2009 Premier League Greensheet Averages?

 

Cyclone,

 

Oh dear, I didn't think this needed explaining twice, but here goes:

 

18.10 e) refers to an average never going above 4.00. So the Team Declaration is very relevant, because it shows Davey on 4.23 during the year. Yes, his final figure slipped to 3.77 in his final 2009 Green Sheet average, but the key thing was that his GSA was 4.23 earlier in the season.

 

He did have a GSA more than 4.00 during the season. Understand now?

Heat 7 from Sunday's EWR action feast, a total humdinger and probably the best non-passing race you will ever see!

 

https://youtu.be/i9LaXp4q44w

 

Superb stuff, although for me the race of the season is still Heat 15 against Glasgow, with Ryan going from 4th to 2nd to 4th to 3rd (I think!!) :D

 

All the best

Rob

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Superb stuff, although for me the race of the season is still Heat 15 against Glasgow, with Ryan going from 4th to 2nd to 4th to 3rd (I think!!) :D

 

All the best

Rob

Doubt it was better than this

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Did that average include bonus points which now they don't count now??🤔

averages included bonus points up to and including the end of the 2005 season. at that point, they were then 'netted off' and the new figures produced (without bonus pts) for the start of the 2006 campaign.

 

 

PS Mr cyclone - the difference between the team declarations and the green sheets were to do with team changes. the October 2009 lists show Edinburgh as being the same as the end of year green sheets due to us signing Kalle Katajisto (replacing Byron Bekker) at such a late stage that both he (and, obviously, the team) didn't ride in any meetings which were included in those numbers (remember Cup finals, play-offs, etc. are excluded).

 

similarly, at the point when Glasgow last re-declared that season, Mitchell Davey had a 4.23 average. this may have been in July, August, whenever. and, by the end of the year, he was down to 3.77, as per his green sheet.

 

I have no idea as to whether the 'never having achieved an actual PL MA of 4.00 or above' is defined by end of season averages or simply at any point during any season. "never" to me means "never ever" but this is the BSPA we're talking about!

 

I suspect there'll be a coin toss to decide upon this one. my money's on heads :neutral:

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I have found a 2009 programme against Glasgow dated August 21st. Mitchell Davey had an average, then, of 3.92. he scored 11 + 1 from 7 rides.

 

Had a spare 15 minutes during my lunchtime at work today, so copied Davey's 2009 figures from the Speedway Star (PT & PL only) into my averages spread-sheet:

 

04-Apr 5 4 1 CMA 5 4 1 3.20

05-Apr 3 3 0 CMA 8 7 1 3.50

12-Apr 6 11 2 CMA 14 18 3 5.14

13-Apr 3 1 0 CMA 17 19 3 4.47

19-Apr 5 7 1 CMA 22 26 4 4.73

23-Apr 6 6 1 CMA 28 32 5 4.57

25-Apr 6 4 0 CMA 34 36 5 4.24

26-Apr 6 12 3 CMA 40 48 8 4.80

30-Apr 7 10 2 CMA 47 58 10 4.94

03-May 7 8 1 CMA 54 66 11 4.89

17-May 7 9 0 CMA 61 75 11 4.92

29-May 6 4 0 CMA 67 79 11 4.72

31-May 6 7 0 CMA 73 86 11 4.71

04-Jun 7 5 1 CMA 80 91 12 4.55

07-Jun 5 2 1 CMA 85 93 13 4.38

12-Jun 7 3 1 CMA 92 96 14 4.17

14-Jun 5 8 2 CMA 97 104 16 4.29

21-Jun 6 5 2 CMA 103 109 18 4.23

28-Jun 5 2 0 CMA 108 111 18 4.11

04-Jul 6 6 0 CMA 114 117 18 4.11

05-Jul 6 5 2 CMA 120 122 20 4.07

10-Jul 6 8 0 CMA 126 130 20 4.13

12-Jul 4 1 1 CMA 130 131 21 4.03

19-Jul 6 4 2 CMA 136 135 23 3.97

22-Jul 6 4 0 CMA 142 139 23 3.92

26-Jul 4 4 0 CMA 146 143 23 3.92

02-Aug 6 3 1 CMA 152 146 24 3.84

09-Aug 6 6 4 CMA 158 152 28 3.85

19-Aug 3 1 0 CMA 161 153 28 3.80

20-Aug 6 7 0 CMA 167 160 28 3.83

21-Aug 7 11 1 CMA 174 171 29 3.93

28-Aug 4 1 1 CMA 178 172 30 3.87

30-Aug 7 7 2 CMA 185 179 32 3.87

31-Aug 6 4 1 CMA 191 183 33 3.83

05-Sep 7 7 0 CMA 198 190 33 3.84

13-Sep 4 3 2 CMA 202 193 35 3.82

19-Sep 4 1 1 CMA 206 194 36 3.77

20-Sep 4 4 1 CMA 210 198 37 3.77

 

 

The bold figures show his Green Sheet Average at the cut-off for each month:

 

May (i.e. meetings until April 23rd) 4.57 - actually not sure if this one is enough meetings to gain a new average

June 4.92

July 4.23 (at this point, Glasgow redeclared with William Lawson in the side, hence the figure on the team declarations page - thanks King Jamie for that tip)

August 3.92 (the figure in the Scunny programme)

September 3.93

October and final 3.77.

 

Proof that Mitchell Davey's Green sheet average was definitely greater than 4.00 for a good chunk of the 2009 season (on top of the fact that he started 2008 on an assessed 5.00 figure!!!).

 

All the best

Rob

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Like is said heads or tails what's your call.Its the only way to decide this matter.Watch out for the Edinburgh double headed coin though!

I'm just surprised the 'burger' hasn't made an entry into this matter.

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Doubt it was better than this

 

Ashworth last to first. Remember it well.

 

If memory serves me correctly, there were a few Sheffield fans jeering when he gated last.....

 

Take it from me, there were about 8 races as good as that on Sunday - it really was just brilliant.

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How can something so simple as 4 blokes racing over 4 laps be so confusing. I hope Scunny have the appeal upheld as I support them, but reading the previous posts, I don't how it will end up.

Hope they have to rerun the meeting with the inclusion of Bewley if the appeal is upheld much better to decide the winner on track rather than in an office.

 

Seems to me a bit strange so many posters implying Davey was too good a guest, when the normal opinion is he's not good enough to compete at this level.

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Ashworth last to first. Remember it well.

 

If memory serves me correctly, there were a few Sheffield fans jeering when he gated last.....

 

Take it from me, there were about 8 races as good as that on Sunday - it really was just brilliant.

There will be more races with superb passing but anybody will be hard pressed to find a better example of team riding. #MonTheFish.

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Heat 7 from Sunday's EWR action feast, a total humdinger and probably the best non-passing race you will ever see!

 

https://youtu.be/i9LaXp4q44w

Two days on and reflecting on Sundays brilliant racing and every bit as good as I thought it was !. Infact it's better than I thought. You will never see a non passing race as good as that one, Even if you turned up at a track every night at a speedway for the next 100 years.! All four riders were almost in unison going round and it was blanket stuff all the way. Look beyond the final result 44-45 (subject to stewards enquiry-Mitch Davey?).

 

There were no losers at Scunny on Sunday only winners if you were there. Scunthorpe Speedway the track that just KEEPS ON GIVING !

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