Tai Woffinden

[Hodgy]

So,,, all you 'know it all', down with the kids parents will be very supportive when your offspring comes home with a face, hands & body saturated with tattoos, massive holes in their ears shouting "lets hear some fu**ing noise papa!!!" will be very understanding and happily bid goodnight waving the Union Jack, it's the way of the world my boy. Bull$hit!!!

 

2013 I was cheering Tai as loud as any, also 2015 but it felt less so. Now, I actually don't feel I cheer as much. Pi$$ poor marketing with arrogance doesn't do it for me but if it increases his publicity good luck to him. I don't warm to the 'I'm beyond the rules attitude'.

[no-brakes-uk]

i don't see anything wrong with the word "fagging" and I'm an ex-smoker.

[alkadera]

So,,, all you 'know it all', down with the kids parents will be very supportive when your offspring comes home with a face, hands & body saturated with tattoos, massive holes in their ears shouting "lets hear some fu**ing noise papa!!!" will be very understanding and happily bid goodnight waving the Union Jack, it's the way of the world my boy. Bull$hit!!!

2013 I was cheering Tai as loud as any, also 2015 but it felt less so. Now, I actually don't feel I cheer as much. Pi$$ poor marketing with arrogance doesn't do it for me but if it increases his publicity good luck to him. I don't warm to the 'I'm beyond the rules attitude'.

Just going to copy and paste my previous post about the above quote.

 

'The number of people who think kids are thick enough to blindly follow what someone else does is staggering! Not all kids are like the ones you see on the news or are reported in the papers. You will find that the vast majority are pretty sensible....

 

Have you actually talked to any of the riders in the British youth set up? They are all well mannered, polite and determined kids who can think for themselves.'

 

Some people do have a remarkably poor perception of our young people today!

[BWitcher]

So,,, all you 'know it all', down with the kids parents will be very supportive when your offspring comes home with a face, hands & body saturated with tattoos, massive holes in their ears «'

 

The bigotry continues to shine through.

 

These kind of posts say nothing about Woffinden, only the person making them.

 

I'm no fan of tattoos, holes in ears etc but I respect individuals right's to look how they please.

Edited July 15, 2016 by BWitcher

[Marcelle]

If only a few more young British Speedway riders had the desire,attitude,drive and proffesionalism that Tai Woffinden has then We'd have damn sight more riders in the GP and a better chance in World Cups...Tai's comments in the Speedway Star last week were spot on...Parents are role models, not sportsmen...GO Woffy!

[Hodgy]

The bigotry continues to shine through.

 

These kind of posts say nothing about Woffinden, only the person making them.

 

I'm no fan of tattoos, holes in ears etc but I respect individuals right's to look how they please.

Feel honoured the no 1 'know it all', my opinion is always the right, responds to my post. Thank you, exactly as expected.

 

You didn't answer my post at all, but to contradict yourself in all 3 lines takes some doing.

[BWitcher]

Feel honoured the no 1 'know it all', my opinion is always the right, responds to my post. Thank you, exactly as expected.

 

You didn't answer my post at all, but to contradict yourself in all 3 lines takes some doing.

 

Contradict myself?

 

You made a bigoted post and you were called out on it.

 

It's nothing to do with being 'down with the kids', it's called being tolerant and respectful of how others choose to look.

[sparkafag]

So,,, all you 'know it all', down with the kids parents will be very supportive when your offspring comes home with a face, hands & body saturated with tattoos, massive holes in their ears shouting "lets hear some fu**ing noise papa!!!" will be very understanding and happily bid goodnight waving the Union Jack, it's the way of the world my boy. Bull$hit!!!

 

2013 I was cheering Tai as loud as any, also 2015 but it felt less so. Now, I actually don't feel I cheer as much. Pi$$ poor marketing with arrogance doesn't do it for me but if it increases his publicity good luck to him. I don't warm to the 'I'm beyond the rules attitude'.

You make it out like a 6 or 7 year old would come home like that....you have to be 18 before you can get a tatoo by that age it's entirely a life choice of a person if they wish to make that decision

[BWitcher]

You make it out like a 6 or 7 year old would come home like that....you have to be 18 before you can get a tatoo by that age it's entirely a life choice of a person if they wish to make that decision

 

He also makes it sound like they get it all done at the same time...

[Hodgy]

Contradict myself?

 

You made a bigoted post and you were called out on it.

 

It's nothing to do with being 'down with the kids', it's called being tolerant and respectful of how others choose to look.

Bigotry - intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself. That's you in abundance - however you will never see it as you rarely see things from others points of view. Think that's what they call a bigot - appears to be the forums new buzz word. You will bark on insisting you are right until the other gives up or dies. I have learned to accept there are usually two sides.

 

Not sure what "called out on it" means, forgive my ignorance.

 

If you are quite content and respect your offsprings decision to tattoo their face, have ears dumbo would be proud and deliberatly swear in front of millions, fair play. Not my idea of a responsible parent - but hey, wouldn't want to be accused of bigotry.

 

If you are visiting the EOES soon I can show you my tattoos and piercings. I quite like them but it's good to be able to cover when I need to appear grown up and professional.

[BWitcher]

Bigotry - intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself. That's you in abundance - however you will never see it as you rarely see things from others points of view. Think that's what they call a bigot - appears to be the forums new buzz word. You will bark on insisting you are right until the other gives up or dies. I have learned to accept there are usually two sides.

 

Not sure what "called out on it" means, forgive my ignorance.

 

If you are quite content and respect your offsprings decision to tattoo their face, have ears dumbo would be proud and deliberatly swear in front of millions, fair play. Not my idea of a responsible parent - but hey, wouldn't want to be accused of bigotry.

 

If you are visiting the EOES soon I can show you my tattoos and piercings. I quite like them but it's good to be able to cover when I need to appear grown up and professional.

 

You've demonstrated yet again what a bigot you are as well as insulted the parents, one sadly deceased of Tai Woffinden. I suggest you approach Sue Woffinden and inform her what an irresponsible parent she is.

 

It's not so long ago that the same sort of comments were being made about parents of gay kids, indeed in some places they still are.. maybe you fall into that out dated category too.

 

Anyway, let's discuss 'grown up and professional'. How has you covering up your tattoos helped you in these endeavours.. Woffinden has become a 'multi-millionaire' (if you believe Robert72) acting in this 'unprofessional' way. Have you had as much success?

 

Being a parent you offer advice and guidance but ultimately if you have raised your children well they should be more than capable of making their own minds up and if their chosen path differs from that which you would prefer, as long as they are not breaking the law a decent parent would respect that.

 

As for your other comments, you couldn't be more off the mark. The 'debates' I am usually involved in are when someone is making a false statement and won't accept it. There aren't 'two sides' in such cases. An opinion is different to something factual.. sadly many fail to understand that basic concept.

 

Anyway, I hope you're done insulting those who aren't here to defend themselves.

Edited July 15, 2016 by BWitcher

[Hodgy]

You've demonstrated yet again what a bigot you are as well as insulted the parents, one sadly deceased of Tai Woffinden. I suggest you approach Sue Woffinden and inform her what an irresponsible parent she is.

 

It's not so long ago that the same sort of comments were being made about parents of gay kids, indeed in some places they still are.. maybe you fall into that out dated category too.

 

Anyway, let's discuss 'grown up and professional'. How has you covering up your tattoos helped you in these endeavours.. Woffinden has become a 'multi-millionaire' (if you believe Robert72) acting in this 'unprofessional' way. Have you had as much success?

 

Being a parent you offer advice and guidance but ultimately if you have raised your children well they should be more than capable of making their own minds up and if their chosen path differs from that which you would prefer, as long as they are not breaking the law a decent parent would respect that.

 

As for your other comments, you couldn't be more off the mark. The 'debates' I am usually involved in are when someone is making a false statement and won't accept it. There aren't 'two sides' in such cases. An opinion is different to something factual.. sadly many fail to understand that basic concept.

 

Anyway, I hope you're done insulting those who aren't here to defend themselves.

You absolute low life!!! How dare you accuse me of such misdemeanours. Twisting others words as per usual just to try and win a debate, didn't think even you would resort to such drastic and damaging words, you not me. I said 'YOU', and your offspring - to which you have still never answered, you prefer to resorting by deflecting to my detriment.

 

You really will resort to anything to win your argument. Ok, you have it - no wonder I rarely get involved. What a sad person you appear. Would say 'are', but that wouldn't be factual would it!!!

[New Science]

 

Contradict myself?

 

You made a bigoted post and you were called out on it.

 

It's nothing to do with being 'down with the kids', it's called being tolerant and respectful of how others choose to look.

Just to stop you in your tracks Bwitcher

Bigot: meaning: a person who is intolerant ,esp regarding religion,politics or race.

Stop calling people bigots please just because people might not approve of their kids COMING HOME having DILLIGAF ON their knuckles

Edited July 15, 2016 by New Science

[BWitcher]

If you are quite content and respect your offsprings decision to tattoo their face, have ears dumbo would be proud and deliberatly swear in front of millions, fair play. Not my idea of a responsible parent - but hey, wouldn't want to be accused of bigotry.

 

 

 

 

You absolute low life!!! How dare you accuse me of such misdemeanours. Twisting others words as per usual just to try and win a debate, didn't think even you would resort to such drastic and damaging words, you not me. I said 'YOU', and your offspring - to which you have still never answered, you prefer to resorting by deflecting to my detriment.

 

 

I have not twisted your words, you stated them, they are 100% clear.

 

The topic at hand is Tai Woffinden, you are the one who has brought up his tattoos and the holes in his ears as a way of attacking him. You are the one who has coined the phrase 'ears that dumbo would be proud of'. You are the one who has said if a parent respects such a person they are not a responsible parent.

 

Don't even try and wriggle out of it by pathetically saying that your views are only aimed at me. Or are you honestly suggesting that if I was content with an offspring who did those things I would be 'irresponsible' but other parents are not? Don't be so foolish, you have made your feelings quite clear on the matter.

 

I haven't had to resort to anything to 'win' this argument. Your words have done that yourself.

 

The very fact you seem to be so offended at my suggestion you have insulted the Woffinden's and are resorting to the term 'lowlife' should make you pause for thought about the derogatory remarks you are making towards Tai and his appearance.

 

The swearing? Silly thing to do really, not worth the hysteria that some are showing though, as a parent I would be proud of a 2nd place in a GP.

 

I've already stated previously, tattoos etc are not my cup of tea personally, but then it's not my body. Would I be proud of an offspring who had set out to become the very best at their chosen profession and had done that, but happened to get some tattoos and some ear plugs along the way? Damn right I would be. Are you saying you wouldn't be?

 

Just to stop you in your tracks Bwitcher

Bigot: meaning: a person who is intolerant ,esp regarding religion,politics or race.

Stop calling people bigots please just because people might not approve of their kids COMING HOME having DILLIGAF ON their knuckles

 

Failed to stop me in my tracks there, simply confirmed them. A person who is intolerant.. which is precisely what Hodgy is towards Woffindends looks. 'DILLIGAF' is something you've decided to insert into the discussion now, although from Tai's point of view it does hold a certain resonance towards some folk.

Edited July 16, 2016 by BWitcher

[steve roberts]

 

You've demonstrated yet again what a bigot you are as well as insulted the parents, one sadly deceased of Tai Woffinden. I suggest you approach Sue Woffinden and inform her what an irresponsible parent she is.

 

It's not so long ago that the same sort of comments were being made about parents of gay kids, indeed in some places they still are.. maybe you fall into that out dated category too.

 

Anyway, let's discuss 'grown up and professional'. How has you covering up your tattoos helped you in these endeavours.. Woffinden has become a 'multi-millionaire' (if you believe Robert72) acting in this 'unprofessional' way. Have you had as much success?

 

Being a parent you offer advice and guidance but ultimately if you have raised your children well they should be more than capable of making their own minds up and if their chosen path differs from that which you would prefer, as long as they are not breaking the law a decent parent would respect that.

 

As for your other comments, you couldn't be more off the mark. The 'debates' I am usually involved in are when someone is making a false statement and won't accept it. There aren't 'two sides' in such cases. An opinion is different to something factual.. sadly many fail to understand that basic concept.

 

Anyway, I hope you're done insulting those who aren't here to defend themselves.

Unfortunately, to quote from Nick Robinson's (Political Commentator) most excellent book " comments made on public forums are often opinions and not necessarily factual in content".

[Hodgy]

I have not twisted your words, you stated them, they are 100% clear.

 

The topic at hand is Tai Woffinden, you are the one who has brought up his tattoos and the holes in his ears as a way of attacking him. You are the one who has coined the phrase 'ears that dumbo would be proud of'. You are the one who has said if a parent respects such a person they are not a responsible parent.

 

Don't even try and wriggle out of it by pathetically saying that your views are only aimed at me. Or are you honestly suggesting that if I was content with an offspring who did those things I would be 'irresponsible' but other parents are not? Don't be so foolish, you have made your feelings quite clear on the matter.

 

I haven't had to resort to anything to 'win' this argument. Your words have done that yourself.

 

The very fact you seem to be so offended at my suggestion you have insulted the Woffinden's and are resorting to the term 'lowlife' should make you pause for thought about the derogatory remarks you are making towards Tai and his appearance.

 

The swearing? Silly thing to do really, not worth the hysteria that some are showing though, as a parent I would be proud of a 2nd place in a GP.

 

I've already stated previously, tattoos etc are not my cup of tea personally, but then it's not my body. Would I be proud of an offspring who had set out to become the very best at their chosen profession and had done that, but happened to get some tattoos and some ear plugs along the way? Damn right I would be. Are you saying you wouldn't be?

 

 

 

Failed to stop me in my tracks there, simply confirmed them. A person who is intolerant.. which is precisely what Hodgy is towards Woffindends looks. 'DILLIGAF' is something you've decided to insert into the discussion now, although from Tai's point of view it does hold a certain resonance towards some folk.

My god you do waffle on and make it up as you go. No wonder so many just give up with your 'know it all' attitude.

 

You finally answered the question, to which you appear to have a problem with a simple yes or no - but as usual you hid it within a load of unnecessary made up BS.

[Midland Red]

Tai thought before he spoke.And still gave the F word.

Absolutely no doubt about that, it was clearly premeditated

[BWitcher]

 

 

 

 

Correct.. which backs up my point.

 

The issue is some posters post incorrect facts and then try to pass them of as opinion.

 

For example.. I could post Greg Hancock is a seven time and reigning world champion. That would be incorrect and easily challenged... bleating it's my opinion would be foolish.

My god you do waffle on and make it up as you go. No wonder so many just give up with your 'know it all' attitude.

 

You finally answered the question, to which you appear to have a problem with a simple yes or no - but as usual you hid it within a load of unnecessary made up BS.

 

Speaking of which..

 

So that's all you've got isn't it. Fall back onto the tired old lines trotted out by those who have been wrong before.

 

I haven't made up any BS, merely quoted your very own insulting, bigoted words.

You absolute low life!!! How dare you accuse me of such misdemeanours. Twisting others words as per usual just to try and win a debate, didn't think even you would resort to such drastic and damaging words, you not me. I said 'YOU', and your offspring - to which you have still never answered, you prefer to resorting by deflecting to my detriment.

 

 

 

Oh.. I forgot to add this little gem previously, which totally destroys your little tantrum above where you claim your comments were only made at me.

 

So,,, all you 'know it all', down with the kids parents will be very supportive when your offspring comes home with a face, hands & body saturated with tattoos, massive holes in their ears shouting "lets hear some fu**ing noise papa!!!" will be very understanding and happily bid goodnight waving the Union Jack, it's the way of the world my boy.

 

As you can clearly see in your OWN words you said 'ALL'. Not me, ALL.

 

If you'd simply made a point about Tai swearing, you would have had something of a case, however his tattoos and holes in his ears are utterly irrelevant yet you chose to add them in.. only one reason for that.

[Hodgy]

Correct.. which backs up my point.

 

The issue is some posters post incorrect facts and then try to pass them of as opinion.

 

For example.. I could post Greg Hancock is a seven time and reigning world champion. That would be incorrect and easily challenged... bleating it's my opinion would be foolish.

 

Speaking of which..

 

So that's all you've got isn't it. Fall back onto the tired old lines trotted out by those who have been wrong before.

 

I haven't made up any BS, merely quoted your very own insulting, bigoted words.

 

Oh.. I forgot to add this little gem previously, which totally destroys your little tantrum above where you claim your comments were only made at me.

 

 

 

As you can clearly see in your OWN words you said 'ALL'. Not me, ALL.

 

If you'd simply made a point about Tai swearing, you would have had something of a case, however his tattoos and holes in his ears are utterly irrelevant yet you chose to add them in.. only one reason for that.

Exactly, I said YOU know it alls - regarding your offspring coming home as described numerous times. No mention of the twisted words you added. You calling people bigots is like someone wearing glasses calling another 4 eyes. No wonder so many just give up tryng to debate with you.

[BWitcher]

Exactly, I said YOU know it alls - regarding your offspring coming home as described numerous times. No mention of the twisted words you added. You calling people bigots is like someone wearing glasses calling another 4 eyes. No wonder so many just give up tryng to debate with you.

 

Stop digging bigot.

 

"All you know it alls"

 

That encompasses anyone who doesn't have an issue with their offspring having tattoos and 'dumbo like ears' as you call it.

 

So you're really trying to claim, that on a thread about Tai Woffinden, you suggesting that someone happy with a son who looks like that is an irresponsible parent is not a slight on Tai's parents? Listen to yourself, you're tying yourself up in knots.