BWitcher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Great stuff, you did come across as a bit of a wum when you said that you see more passes in one race at monmore than the whole of this meeting, hence the replies. There is a link on the wolves v Leicester thread to a good race but there are only two passes and the first is because a rider drifts off the line and the second is due to a huge wobble by the rider in front. Don't get me wrong, it was a good race and if every race was like that then speedway would be a lot better and it would only be people like new science moaning and fourenteen missing the point and starman on a different planet, the rest of us would be almost as bad as Pearson and Tatum in praising the racing (they are only doing their job, and doing a very good one imo) but there was more passing in heat 1 on Wednesday than the linked race from wolves and no wobbles to be seen. Yet the passes in Heat 1 were also quite simply due to riders drifting off the line. PK didn't need to do anything special in that race, just rode the inside and Worrall moved over nicely for him. Both were decent though and we'd all be happy if we saw such racing on a regular basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Well apart from lindgren going round Worrall on the second turn of the first lap and Worrall going round pk down the back straight of the second lap before doing as you say for pk to pass Worrall for the second time. We could then go on to heat 2 and so on but apart from showing the lack of passing due to wobbles and drifting off the line there wouldn't be much point would there? Just watched heat 2 on YouTube and there is a wobble! I think it was more down to the bump howarth gave Jacobs rather than anything to do with the track though. Lindgren gated, went round the outside had the momentum and cleared off. That's not a pass, just a result of the run around the first turn. PK passed Worrall on the inside, Worrall did not go back round him at any point, he almost drew alongside him on lap two, that was it. PK stayed in 2nd place comfortably. The only reason PK passed Worrall was because he kindly moved off the line. Had he not done so, he wouldn't have been passed. Heat 2 was a procession, there was one bend (turns 3 and 4) where things briefly got close as the much faster Jacobs saw off Howarth who was on the inside line. That was the end of that. The meeting was entertaining, but don't big it up into something it wasn't. Edited July 8, 2016 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Can't you get YouTube? Yes, hence it's easy to call you out when you over embellish things as you like to do DAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 That race far from highlights the virtues of the track, quite the opposite in fact as the quicker rider was unable to pass, with Cook having to do nothing but ride the same line, inside, throughout. 2 more meters and Lindgren would of won the race, he just left the blast round the outside too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Bwitcher in wrong yet again shock, lol! https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13559044_10208271066606336_6375959012526737466_o.jpg Bless, you said Worrall 'went round' PK on the back straight. I said he drew level at best before PK moved ahead into the corner. Thanks for posting the evidence proving me correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Watching on TV it was a okish/decent meeting. Scores helped that Being there as I was, I thought it was a bloody fantastic meeting. Nothing beats live speedway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 There is a screenshot clearly showing worrall at least a half a wheel in front of pk and yet you describe that as "he almost drew level"!!! You really would argue black is white wouldn't you, ha ha! You can make things up as much as you wish, won't change the reality though. Let's see this 'screenshot' then, as it's not the one you've posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Lol! Just a wind up and I fell for it, doh! Nice one. Another thread with decent discussion and you have to ruin it with your trolling. It's really time you grew up. Karlsson passed Worrall into turn 1 lap 2 as Worrall went too wide and PK simply rode round the inside. FACT Worrall drew alongside Karlsson down the back straight and approaching turn 3, he never went round him.. FACT. PK moved ahead into the turn and it stayed that way the rest of the race.. FACT. Take your fantasies elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) At least the screenshot showing worrall in front of pk has made you admit you were wrong when you said he "almost drew level". You are actually joking though aren't you and this is a wind up? It doesn't show he was in front. It shows he AT BEST drew level which was basically what I said. You're the one claiming falsely that Worrall went round PK on lap two and if that's the best evidence you can provide, best to give up now. Edited July 8, 2016 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Just on this, Steve did get in front of PK and this was more pronounced from where I sit near the start line that it looks from the camera on bend four. Steve's positioning would have seen him hold the lead at many tracks but the inside entry to turn three is already over these first few meeting a strong line to take, especially with plenty of speed. You need to do what Joe (just) managed to do against Kyle when he "got over him". Steve wasn't far enough ahead to do this plus PK went strong into the turn to regain his advantage. During the SWC we will see a lot of Gollobesque dive bombs on turn three, it's a move you see coming as they enter the the straight and it really gets the heart pumping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 During the SWC we will see a lot of Gollobesque dive bombs on turn three, it's a move you see coming as they enter the the straight and it really gets the heart pumping. Me and the wife will be in for some good fun if Gollobesque happens on turn 3 at BV. We got tickets for the temporary seats on turn 3-4, but more precisely looking down the straight towards exit from turn 2 - so riders coming at us from turn 2 directly towards turn 3. Its where we sat at Cardiff for the last 2 years, and yes, you can see riders lining themselves up for a go on turn 3/4, especially on the last lap. Cant wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Just seen to bald people having a dispute over a comb . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Lindgren gated, went round the outside had the momentum and cleared off. That's not a pass, just a result of the run around the first turn. I normally read your posts and agree with them, but if you go into the 1st bend slightly behind the other 3 riders and end up in front just after coming out of the 2nd bend, how is that not a pass. ?? Also Worrall did pass PK along the back straight and lead PK into bend 3 and out of bend 4 before PK repassed Worrall on the inside somewhere close to the start of lap 2 Edited July 8, 2016 by hyderd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 I normally read your posts and agree with them, but if you go into the 1st bend slightly behind the other 3 riders and end up in front just after coming out of the 2nd bend, how is that not a pass. ?? Also Worrall did pass PK along the back straight and lead PK into bend 3 and out of bend 4 before PK repassed Worrall on the inside somewhere close to the start of lap 2 Most speedway fans consider the first two turns as part of the 'start, but I see your point. You are correct with regards to Worrall, but that isn't what Drop a Cog is claiming. He is claiming that Worrall passed PK again on lap two after PK had passed him on the inside at the start of that lap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Here, watch this it might cheer you up weirdo Bless, back to your duplicate account again, so proud of that aren't you. Does it make you feel big and bad blatantly abusing forum rules? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenspoon Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 I do not know why posters on here bother with "BWitcher" he is the biggest trolling pedant on the forum, and as such should be ignored. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzCagney Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 I'm loving watching Belle Vue on the TV. The track seems to be settling nicely and producing some very entertaining racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 I do not know why posters on here bother with "BWitcher" he is the biggest trolling pedant on the forum, and as such should be ignored. Classic case of bored expatriate syndrome, I suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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